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Considering leaving the garden...

Hello forum!

 

I am considering leaving the garden (that I just entered yesterday.)

 

The reason I'm considering doing so is I've got three primary baddies on my report: defaulted student loans, a CO card from MidAmerica Bank for about $500 (CO in November of 2011), and a tax lien from the state of Maine for about $3300 (filed in Aug 2013.) 

 

The student loans are... a mess. I'm embarassed at how frequently I have defaulted on them (the same loan shows up on my reports 4 times due to re-agings.  Ouch.) They are not eligible for rehab, but I am on a fairly aggressive payment plan with them. I have to accept my just desserts on that one and let time do the rest.

 

The Mid America card should be taken care of, and is still doing damage for sure, but whether I do anything about it depends on if I can negotiate a PIF. 

 

I need to focus on the lien, which between the age and the fact that it's a public record, I suspect is doing the most damage. The internet is completely void of information about whether the state of Maine is a state that vacates paid liens; their treasury website is even less helpful. If the state has any protocol on that front, I surely can't find it. That detail isn't terribly important just yet, because I know I can't start to see real recovery until I pay that bad boy off. I could pay monthly on it, but if I can't get it successfully vacated, the 7 year clock doesn't start until it's fully paid - so I'm interested in getting it paid sooner rather than later.  

 

Therefore, I am considering taking out a personal loan.

 

1. My first choice would be to approach my credit union, where I've been a member for about a year. I'd shoot for about $4,000, to take care of the lien and the CO CC. Chance for a better rate, mix of credit, and general all-around lieklihod that they would work with me in order to get me the financing I need. Of course, I run the risk of being turned down due to the very thing I am trying to take care of. I'm hoping that someone here might have been in similar shoes, and been successful in getting a personal loan through a CU? Any pitfalls I should watch out for? What kind of information is generally requested - is it like a CC app, primarily identifying info, salary, and a credit check? WouldI be asked for personal references? (This could be problematic - I really don't have any friends that I would feel comfortable enough approaching for something like that.)

 

2. My second choice would be for a loan through Springleaf, who keeps sending me pre-approvals. I'm not even positive I want to take this approach at all. The interest rate alone makes me want to cry (32.49%) although the monthly installments would be manageable. Then there's the whole consumer finance loan aspect, though it would still be a mix of credit. I somewhat feel that the dip my score might take for having a "bad" type of loan would be outweighed by the positive of paying the lien (even more so if I can get it vacated.) Is this magical thinking? Also, like with the above, I am curious about any info anyone might have on the application process.

 

Thanks for reading my wall of text, and for any experiences or opinions you care to share!

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gdale6
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Re: Considering leaving the garden...

Like all creditors CUs operate based on risk, if you have sufficient income and a good enough score the loan is approved, if not well its denied. I would never approach Springleaf for any type of loan espescially one that has that high interest rate.

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Anonymous
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Re: Considering leaving the garden...

Update:

 

I also solicited the advice of a friend who worked in the banking industry. Granted, she worked at a conventional bank as opposed to a credit union, but she told me that honestly, with my scores and profile, I likely wouldn't make the cut for a signature loan. Especially with the lien. And, if I did qualify, it likely would be for less than what I would need for what I'm looking to accomplish.

 

She said that the CU might be worth it, but I'm not keen on taking a ding for an HP for something I don't have a good chance for. I did speak with someone at the CU, and explained my situation, and got the standard, "we won't know until you app." Fair enough, I know they can't promise me anything without being able to see the whole picture. My TU inquiries are at 6, my others even fewer, but I don't have the strength of a good credit history to overcome a lot of inquiries, and I will need to apartment shop here in the coming months.

 

So, after considering a little longer, and reading some of the threads here, I decided to see if I qualified for a Lending Club or Prosper loan. I never realized they were soft pulls, which really appeals to me in my particular scenario. I didn't make the cut for LC (not surprised by that) but I did make Prosper's cut! The APR is definitely higher than a bank or CU (though only about 5 points higher than my CU's cap) and definitely lower than Springleaf. It works out to about 24% APR.

 

The next hurdle will be getting funded by the investors at Prosper, so it's far from a done deal. However, I do think given my circumstances, this is the best option.

 

I'll update this thread with whether or not I get funded!

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Anonymous
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Re: Considering leaving the garden... EDIT: Prosper.com loan review

So, here's the latest update:

 

I "applied" (soft pull) for the loan in the afternoon of 3/11. I was informed that it would be up to 24 hours before the loan was listed (where it could be seen by and funded by investors.) I was also informed that an address verification postcard would be sent to my home. 

 

By the time I left for work on 3/12, around 7:30 am, it still wasn't listed. By the time I got to work about an hour later, it not only was listed, but fully funded by investors. Seriously, it got funded in less than 20 minutes after going live. 

 

I was asked to upload 4 documents: a voided check, a utility bill from the last 30 days, a W2 and a pay stub. In the 10 minutes it took me to gather my documents, they had already verified my W2 and pay stub elsewhere (not sure how/where, but when I went to the documents page to upload, those two showed verified.) The instructions stated that the documents may take up to a week to verify. 

 

By the end of Thursday, my utility bill was verified. The voided check took the longest, but by last night, it too was verified, and I got the email that my loan was funded and should be in my bank account within 2 to 4 days. No other word on the address verification post card (I assume this is a preliminary item, for people who might register with Prosper but not pull the trigger right away. Since I went through the full process,  they were able to verify my address by other means.)

 

Also, once your lising is funded by investors, and your documents verified, they will ultimately perform a hard pull on your Experian (which is my best report, both score and pull wise.) This makes sense; they want to make sure no material changes have occurred between the listing and end of the process. And, I'm ultimately fine with it, since it was successful. But, I misunderstood this point, and I want to make sure that others who are considering a loan through Prosper due to the soft pull are aware of this (ie, you're better off going through Lending Club if you qualify and are sensitive to pulls.) 

 

I'll leave my final final grade once I see the money in my account, but so far, I have to say that I recommend Prosper for those who may be in similar circumstances as me. In short: 

 

The cons:

- Higher APR than a bank or CU 

- Successfully funded/verified loan results in a hard pull

- You do technically run the risk of not getting your loan if investors do not fund it. But, this is a no harm, no foul scenario since the hard pull doesn't happen until AFTER your listing is funded by investors, so you haven't wasted an HP if it doesn't happen. 

 

The pros: 

- The soft pull up-front lets you know whether you qualify or not. Great for rebuilders like me who are nervous with a traditional bank or CU loan (and, who don't want the psycological damage that comes with a hard pull denial.) Although you will ultimately see a hard pull on your Experian, it's at the end of the process, after all is said and done. 

- Lower APR than other consumer finanace loan companies. Waaaay lower APR than a payday loan company. 

- If your loan isn't fully funded, you can still opt to borrow what was funded, as long as you obtained at least 70% funding. 

- The process is easy and in my experience, very quick. No going somewhere and dropping off loan documents. It takes a minute to apply.  A couple of minutes to upload documents (I was able to pull PDF copies of everything but my voided check. The check I was able to upload by taking a picture with my phone's camera. Your docs may take slightly longer if your providers don't have PDF options and you have to scan them.) 

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gdale6
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Re: Considering leaving the garden... EDIT: Prosper.com loan review

Grats on getting the loan and posting the relevant info Smiley Happy

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Anonymous
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Re: Considering leaving the garden... EDIT: Prosper.com loan review

Latest update:

 

The money was in my account Tuesday morning, exactly 2 business days. So, they definitely don't drag their feet. 

 

One other thing I forgot to mention: there is a 5% loan fee taken off the top, so you'll want to factor it into your amount. For instance, I wanted to borrow 3,800 so I asked for 4,000, 5% of which is $200 taken out. They make this clear up front, though, as long as you're paying attention. Also, I think you're eligible to have this reduced if your credit rating is better than mine.

 

Lastly, I did take a 4 point ding to my Equifax once it reported (it's reported to all the bureaus, but that was the only one that saw an impact.) So, of course, as with anything credit related, be aware there may be an impact, depending on the overall picture in each of your reports. Of course, I have already overcome it with a better utilization reporting on my revolvers, which netted me a 6 point hike, so really, the moral is to not be obsessed with those occasional few point dips (it's hard not to, though, at this point in my credit repair journey!)

 

Overall, I have to say that if you're considering Prosper as a solution for you, I can definitely recommend it. It's certainly not the best product for some with stronger profiles, but it's definitely a reasonable product for some.

 

I'll be sure to update again once the payments start. I plan to make an additional payment against principal to see how easy the extra payment is, and ensure it posts as expected (they state on their site that extra payments are applied as such, but I've heard anecdotal stories this is not the case, so I think it will be important to determine since it might impact some people's decision.)

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Anonymous
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Re: Considering leaving the garden... EDIT: Prosper.com loan review


@gdale6 wrote:

Grats on getting the loan and posting the relevant info Smiley Happy


Awww, thanks gdale6! Glad to hopefully help others out there!

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