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Does paying off old debt really drop your score?

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Starr79
Valued Member

Does paying off old debt really drop your score?

I thought the reason you need to try for a PFD was becuse paying a collections account can hurt your score. Then I read "At myFICO we always recommend paying off your legitimate debts, and paying off old collections won't hurt your FICO score."

 

Did this change in recent years?  I am going to try for PFD on a couple of accounts but if they wont delete I would like to just settle with them and be done with it.

 

Thoughts?

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Shogun
Moderator Emeritus

Re: Does paying off old debt really drop your score?

Paying off old debts won't hurt your score, but it won't help it either.  A PFD will remove the collection and could help your score.

Starting Score: 504
July 2013 score:
EQ FICO 819, TU08 778, EX "806 lender pull 07/26/2013
Goal Score: All Scores 760+, Newest goal 800+
Take the myFICO Fitness Challenge

Current scores after adding $81K in CLs and 2 new cars since July 2013
EQ:809 TU 777 EX 790 Now it's just garden time!

June 2017 update: All scores over 820, just pure gardening now.
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DaveSignal
Valued Contributor

Re: Does paying off old debt really drop your score?

Forgetting about your FICO score, paying off those collections is the right thing to do and will be looked on more favorably in manual review than having outstanding balances.  There are also certain jobs, including my own work, that will see you as a liability with outstanding debt on your credit report.  Employers see it as though if you owe money, you are likely to sell your secrets, and therefore you don't belong at the position.

EX:694 TU:744 EQ:777
Amex ED $19.5k - BoA Travel Rewards $15k - CSP $5k - SDFCU EMV $15k - NFCU goRewards $20k - Barclays Arrival $6.5k
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Starr79
Valued Member

Re: Does paying off old debt really drop your score?

Thanks.

 

Do you know why Myfico would have the same debts listed differently on my Myfico Equifax vs my Myfico TransUnion reports? I have 3 collections that are on the Accounts tab with my Equifax showing big red flags and affecting my score and on My Myfico Trans Union report they are only listed on the collections tab. Equifax is showing 45 points lower and technically has more colledctions on the collections tab, so I know this has to be why. I would think collections tab would be where they should be since they are collections and not active accounts.

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Shogun
Moderator Emeritus

Re: Does paying off old debt really drop your score?

Some of the CAs are coding themselves now as Factoring Agencies and gettinp put in the accounts section.

Starting Score: 504
July 2013 score:
EQ FICO 819, TU08 778, EX "806 lender pull 07/26/2013
Goal Score: All Scores 760+, Newest goal 800+
Take the myFICO Fitness Challenge

Current scores after adding $81K in CLs and 2 new cars since July 2013
EQ:809 TU 777 EX 790 Now it's just garden time!

June 2017 update: All scores over 820, just pure gardening now.
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diabla
Regular Contributor

Re: Does paying off old debt really drop your score?

" Employers see it as though if you owe money, you are likely to sell your secrets, and therefore you don't belong at the position."

 

Yes, but don't most people owe money, of some amount?

 

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Starr79
Valued Member

Re: Does paying off old debt really drop your score?

Shogun--Is that something that can be fixed by CRA? Is it legal to list themseleves as a factoring comany?

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DaveSignal
Valued Contributor

Re: Does paying off old debt really drop your score?


@diabla wrote:

" Employers see it as though if you owe money, you are likely to sell your secrets, and therefore you don't belong at the position."

 

Yes, but don't most people owe money, of some amount?

 


The amount doesn't matter.  If you have a collection with more than $0 balance and aren't at least actively working to reduce that balance, no clearance for you.

EX:694 TU:744 EQ:777
Amex ED $19.5k - BoA Travel Rewards $15k - CSP $5k - SDFCU EMV $15k - NFCU goRewards $20k - Barclays Arrival $6.5k
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Shogun
Moderator Emeritus

Re: Does paying off old debt really drop your score?

Some CAs have figured out the loophole, now there are more and more doing it.  Until someone actually busts them on it, they will continue to do it.

Starting Score: 504
July 2013 score:
EQ FICO 819, TU08 778, EX "806 lender pull 07/26/2013
Goal Score: All Scores 760+, Newest goal 800+
Take the myFICO Fitness Challenge

Current scores after adding $81K in CLs and 2 new cars since July 2013
EQ:809 TU 777 EX 790 Now it's just garden time!

June 2017 update: All scores over 820, just pure gardening now.
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Starr79
Valued Member

Re: Does paying off old debt really drop your score?

Dave it looks like your last EQ FICO was 680. Your fired.

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