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HIPPA in dealing with medical collections?

OK Mods, I realize detailed talk about HIPPA is prohibited in the TOS but I'm not asking for detailed information so please don't delete. :smileyhappy:

So I've read several post on these forums talking about using the HIPPA process to take care of medical collections. In a nutshell, can somebody please explain what the HIPPA process is, what it's for and who it applies to? I'm only curious because the only collections on my CR are all medical and I'm just curious if this is a resource I may be able to use to get deletion s. thanks in advance
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Just as an FYI, the HIPAA process (easily googleable) seemed to be quite popular several years ago but recent reports seem to support that the process no longer works. No one has reported success with this for some years now.

I will tell you I have tried, and it did not work at all for me. YMMV.

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In a nutshell, the HIPAA process is supposedly to get medical collections that have been paid to the OC deleted from your CR.

 

Some have had luck, others not. 

 

There is nothing in the HIPAA laws that say a medical collection cannot be on your CR.  However, there are laws as to what information can be included in those collection tradelines.  That would be the only violation and/or reason for removal.

 

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So is there any way to find out what "information" the OC may or may not have shared with the CA? I mean most of us have a hard enough time simply trying to get a CA do validate a debt, I doubt any of them would voluntarily let you know whether or not they have any information that they are not legally supposed to have. I can see where this could be a total waste of time unless one had their own personal search warrant to go into a CA office and demand they turn over every bit of information they have about you.
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Re: HIPPA in dealing with medical collections?

I copied and pasted this information directly from the US department of health and human services website. Towards the bottom it mentions what can/can't be shared and when/why it can/can't be shared. It says that not only medical information and medical billing information cannot be shared but also when the sharing of that information is no longer necessary. Sooooo, according to my Neanderthal mind and please correct me if I'm wrong, a healthcare provider cannot share billing information nor can a collection agency or any agency for that matter share this information after the intended use has been met. Although I can't find a specific law prohibiting a healthcare facility from sharing your BILLING information surely (obviously there must be or no one would have medical collections listed on their CR) but surely once a CA collects on a debt there is no longer an INTENDED use for them to continue to share your medical billing information on your CR since there is no longer a debt to collect. Just my thoughts, maybe I'll give this route a try once I pay these debt off to get deletion s on the TL that some of the CA are refusing to delete.

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In a nutshell, the HIPAA statute only permits parties to retain medically related information to the minimum extent necessary to carry out a legitimate business need.

 

A specific permissible purpose to retain information necessary to collect on medical debt is provided in the HIPAA statute.

The theory behind the so-called HIPAA process is that once a debt has been paid to the medical provider, that permissible purpose is gone.

The leap is that when the "collection on the debt" permissible purpose no longer applies, all information formerly authorized to be retained for that purpose, including reporting to a credit reporting agency, must be deleted as unauthorized information.

 

No such statement or provision is set forth in the Act.  It is an interpretation of statute that has no binding case law in its support.

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The OC can share any and all of your information to the CA.  However, the CA is extremely limited to who they can share it with.  As the consumer, they have the right to share all of it with you.

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This process didn't work for me either.

 

 I sent 4 out to 4 different places and each came back with HIPAA statements themselves that they were not in violation.

 

Basically in a nutshell I think places have wisened up to this policy and have educated themselves better on the HIPAA law.

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I agree.  IMHO, I believe the whole process was born out of a misunderstanding of how HIPAA actually works and was used as a scare tactic.

 

HIPAA laws are regularly briefed in medical industries nowadays.

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