11-03-2010 12:18 PM
Has anyone dealt with this company? Will they PFD if anyone has dealt with them? In the process od sending a PFD letter to them.
11-03-2010 03:36 PM
OK....I did a search here on myfico search engine for Hunterwarfield. Found previous posts about this company and what other people did. Well I followed their steps . I contacted the original creditor, which is an apratment complex. My daughter was evicted from an apartment while in college, with my name on the lease. NEVER THAT AGAIN....Someone from the sight requested the OC to recall the debt from Hunterwarfield and come to an agreement with the OC.
That's exactly what I did, and so far so good. The person I contacted forwarded the file to her supervisor and they will get back with me. I also offered a lesser amount and for them to delete. Alot of the costs were fees. Will keep posting, hopefully it will work out.
11-04-2010 12:06 AM - edited 11-04-2010 12:12 AM
eparker, this whole concept of the OC somehow "recalling" the debt from the debt collector, and thus compelling prior deletion of prior debt collector reporting of a CA to one's credit file, remains a mystery to me. It has almost become an old wive's tale with NO legal or admin basis
When an OC refers debt for collection, they contract with a debt collector to act as their collection agent. From that date, the debt collector exercises their means to collect the debt. One means they have is to report their collection authoriity to the CRAs in the form of a CA to the conumer credit file. Pressure on the conumer to then want CR deletion of the posted CA.
If , subsequent to their grant of collection status, and their reporting of their collection to the CRA, the OC terminates the contract, that, of course, terminates their further ability to act as a collection agency for the OC. So, in that respect, the debt. and ots collecttion, is "recalled" from the debt collector.
But hat has NOTHING to do with the prior reporting of the debt collector's legitimate reporting while still under contract with the OC. If they were an authorized debt collector prior to the time of OC termination of contract, and acciurately reported that to a CRA, that does not nullify their legal posting of the collection to the debtor's credit report.
Nothing thereafter requries the debt collector to delete any reporting of CA actions prior to OC termination of business with them. An OC cant instuct another party to delete their own prior, legitmate, reporting.
11-04-2010 02:26 AM
RobertEG, there may not be a legal basis for the OC to compel removal by the CA, but it can work. The reason is that these aren't usually one-off transactions The CA, if it is truly acting for the OC and not a JDB, wants to keep an ongoing relationship with the OC and keep getting their collection referrals. So it's possible, perhaps even probable that the OC can get the CA to remove a TL that the CA reported.
11-04-2010 05:49 AM
Yes, I understand your point. I did talk with the OC about this issue, it's not a done deal. By NO means will I send any money without some form of agreement in writing. Probably the deletion of the Collection Agency before I send money to anyone.
Now, what they OC and the Collection Agency do after that is their business. If they continue to take contracts from them or not, they will not be my concern. If the OC does not agree with my requests then I just move on and attempt to deal with the CA.
But I will post what happens.
11-04-2010 07:43 AM
Actually, the theory is as follows:
OC has a defaulted debt....contracts a CA to collect on the debt. OC then recalls the debt (most state "it was referred in ERROR"). By recalling the debt, the CA no longer has the debt and if recalled in error, should never have had it. This the gives rise to the CA deletion.
You can go through all the mental gymnastics to justify why the CA may still be OK in leaving it on the CR...but the REALITY (NOT WIVES TALE) is that for those that DO get the OC to recall a debt from the CA.....the CA listing is deleted.
I have done it and it works. I have advised others to do this and it works.