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Is a mid 700 score possible with a charge off?

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Is a mid 700 score possible with a charge off?

Ugh, this dang charge off!. I had a joint auto loan with my ex husband that was his vehicle and responsibility after the divorce but he defaulted and it was repossessed.  I paid the residual balance off April of 2014 and have been rebuilding my credit since January 2015.  I have tried to gw with the lender but no luck so far.  I had a few collections of my own and a few joint ones that are paid and removed. I'm still fighting with Pinnacle and hopefully that one will go away too.  My scores are all in the 670 to 680 range. Considering I started under 600 this makes me very happy.  I'm wondering if it will be possible to go much higher with this charge off.  It won't drop off until 2019.   Here is what I have right now in the positive category

 

Ford Credit  30,000 opened April 2014- no late payments (I  have 2 previous auto loans that are still on my report from Ford with one 30 day late from 2008, all others paid on time)

Cap One Platinum 1500.00 no lates

Cap One Quicksilver 1500.00 no lates 

Von Maur 300.00 no lates

Cap One Sony 300.00 no lates

Chase Freedom 1200.00 no lates

Chase Slate 1200.00 no lates

Kolhs 300.00 no lates

Chase Marriott Rewards 5000.00 no lates.  

 

7% utility and I pay in full every month.  

 

I know now the charge off is a major derog but will it really hold my score down in the 600's until it falls off?.  Is there anything I can do other than keep my util low and pay on time every month?. I will continue sending goodwill letters but I'm not very hopeful at the moment .  

 

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morgacj2004
Valued Contributor

Re: Is a mid 700 score possible with a charge off?

Maybe not mid 700s but I would def say that a 710-720 score is in your realm of possibility! 


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RobertEG
Legendary Contributor

Re: Is a mid 700 score possible with a charge off?

Try to incorporate the following argument into your good-will requests....

 

Reporting of a charge-off to a CRA is essentially the entry into a consumer's file of the determination by a creditor that the consumer is not going to pay the debt.

In accounting terms, the debt is considered to have become "uncollectible."

 

If the consumer ultimately does pay the debt,, that demonstrates that the earlier determination that the consumer is going to stiff the entire debt was shown to not have been true.  Thus, deletion of the reporting that the consumer is one who stiffs their debts would be considered to more accurately reflect on you as a consumer who meets their debt obltigation when they have overcome their short-term financial woes.

Try to paint a picture of deletion being a more accurate reporting of your credit risk............

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TRC_WA
Senior Contributor

Re: Is a mid 700 score possible with a charge off?


@Anonymous wrote:

  My scores are all in the 670 to 680 range. Considering I started under 600 this makes me very happy.  I'm wondering if it will be possible to go much higher with this charge off.  It won't drop off until 2019.   

 

 

I know now the charge off is a major derog but will it really hold my score down in the 600's until it falls off?.  Is there anything I can do other than keep my util low and pay on time every month?. I will continue sending goodwill letters but I'm not very hopeful at the moment .  

 


Yep... I'd bet the farm that it will.

 

I'm 2+ years post Ch 13 discharge (public record major derog) with a dozen IIB accounts... and I'm stuck in the 670-680 range until everything falls off in the next few months.

 

Scupra has 720's with a Ch 7 public record reporting... but all his IIB accounts have already fallen off.

 

A major derog... be it a BR public record or a CO will keep you in the upper 600's.

 

 

FICO8 current as of : 4-17-24 EQ: 724 TU: 707 EX: 706
Hard INQs last 12 months: EQ: 5 | TU: 8 | EX: 9
Verizon Visa $8500 Amex Delta Reserve $10,000 Care Credit $18,000
NFCU CashRewards $7500 Apple Card $7000 Best Buy $8000 Amazon $5000
NFCU auto loan (2022 Ford Bronco Sport Badlands - Cactus Gray) 6.95%
NFCU motorcycle loan (2024 Harley Davidson Road Glide - Alpine Green & Chrome) 9.45%
Total CL: $64,000 --- Total CC UTI: 27% --- AAoA: 5.5 years --- Income: $200k
Last app: 4-6-24
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morgacj2004
Valued Contributor

Re: Is a mid 700 score possible with a charge off?

I think that you can get your scores in the low 700s. It really depends on the rest of your profile. Like I said before I had my scores in the low 700s 2yrs post BK. So it is possible.!!!


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CreditCuriosity
Moderator Emeritus

.Re: Is a mid 700 score possible with a charge off?


@TRC_WA wrote:

@Anonymous wrote:

  My scores are all in the 670 to 680 range. Considering I started under 600 this makes me very happy.  I'm wondering if it will be possible to go much higher with this charge off.  It won't drop off until 2019.   

 

 

I know now the charge off is a major derog but will it really hold my score down in the 600's until it falls off?.  Is there anything I can do other than keep my util low and pay on time every month?. I will continue sending goodwill letters but I'm not very hopeful at the moment .  

 


Yep... I'd bet the farm that it will.

 

I'm 2+ years post Ch 13 discharge (public record major derog) with a dozen IIB accounts... and I'm stuck in the 670-680 range until everything falls off in the next few months.

 

Scupra has 720's with a Ch 7 public record reporting... but all his IIB accounts have already fallen off.

 

A major derog... be it a BR public record or a CO will keep you in the upper 600's.

 

 


I am breaking the 700 barrier with a slew of 120 lates, a few CO's.. So ya it is possible.  TU04 is 735 atm, TU08 710ish..  All about 4 years olds+.. Only CRA that the 04 score score is higher than the 08 and no real difference on what is reporting.. very strange.. Other two are around 685-690 atm, should break 700 when a CA gets removed being a medical one sometime this week so EX/EQ should be greater than 700 and TU should hopefully go up as well with a slew of inquiries.  Util 1% on 110k in credit.  AAoA 4-6 years.  Think the fairly thick credit file is helping me and long aaoa.

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cakkd
Contributor

Re: Is a mid 700 score possible with a charge off?

I have a CS in the 720s with a charge off -- admittedly the charge off is now more than six year old.

Starting scores (June 9,2012): 591(TU), 582(EXP), 591(EQUI)
Current score: 721 (Discover Fico)
Goal scores: 761 across the board
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TRC_WA
Senior Contributor

Re: Is a mid 700 score possible with a charge off?


@CreditCuriousity wrote:


 


I am breaking the 700 barrier with a slew of 120 lates, a few CO's.. So ya it is possible. TU04 is 735 atm, TU08 710ish.. All about 4 years olds+.. Only CRA that the 04 score score is higher than the 08 and no real difference on what is reporting.. very strange.. Other two are around 685-690 atm, should break 700 when a CA gets removed being a medical one sometime this week so EX/EQ should be greater than 700 and TU should hopefully go up as well with a slew of inquiries. Util 1% on 110k in credit. AAoA 4-6 years. Think the fairly thick credit file is helping me and long aaoa.


Low 700's may be possible... after a few years.  I don't see any chance of 750.

 

What's exciting to me is the score possibilities when I have the Ch 13 PR and dozen IIB accounts all falling off at the same time.  If I'm 670-680 with them still reporting after 6+ years... what kind of a score boost can I expect?

 

I'm being generous when I say 70 points on each CRA... which would put me 750 across the board.  I have 5 student loan accounts backdated to 2001 which will boost my AAoA quite a bit and hopefully offset the AAoA loss when the IIB accounts fall off.

 

FICO8 current as of : 4-17-24 EQ: 724 TU: 707 EX: 706
Hard INQs last 12 months: EQ: 5 | TU: 8 | EX: 9
Verizon Visa $8500 Amex Delta Reserve $10,000 Care Credit $18,000
NFCU CashRewards $7500 Apple Card $7000 Best Buy $8000 Amazon $5000
NFCU auto loan (2022 Ford Bronco Sport Badlands - Cactus Gray) 6.95%
NFCU motorcycle loan (2024 Harley Davidson Road Glide - Alpine Green & Chrome) 9.45%
Total CL: $64,000 --- Total CC UTI: 27% --- AAoA: 5.5 years --- Income: $200k
Last app: 4-6-24
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CreditCuriosity
Moderator Emeritus

Re: Is a mid 700 score possible with a charge off?


@TRC_WA wrote:

@CreditCuriousity wrote:


 


I am breaking the 700 barrier with a slew of 120 lates, a few CO's.. So ya it is possible. TU04 is 735 atm, TU08 710ish.. All about 4 years olds+.. Only CRA that the 04 score score is higher than the 08 and no real difference on what is reporting.. very strange.. Other two are around 685-690 atm, should break 700 when a CA gets removed being a medical one sometime this week so EX/EQ should be greater than 700 and TU should hopefully go up as well with a slew of inquiries. Util 1% on 110k in credit. AAoA 4-6 years. Think the fairly thick credit file is helping me and long aaoa.


Low 700's may be possible... after a few years.  I don't see any chance of 750.

 

What's exciting to me is the score possibilities when I have the Ch 13 PR and dozen IIB accounts all falling off at the same time.  If I'm 670-680 with them still reporting after 6+ years... what kind of a score boost can I expect?

 

I'm being generous when I say 70 points on each CRA... which would put me 750 across the board.  I have 5 student loan accounts backdated to 2001 which will boost my AAoA quite a bit and hopefully offset the AAoA loss when the IIB accounts fall off.

 


I agree 750 isn't really possibly, but 700 for sure is as I am proof of this as well as many others...  With that said score isn't everything as if I ever go into manual review then a UW can very well hold that against me or not even manual review it can see it and be a denial.. It is what is in the report, not the score..  Granted higher score usually equal better profile.

 

Never dealt with a BK, so not sure what kinda boost you are to expect to be honest.. I know when my lates and CO's finally fall off I should be in the 750-780 range based on where I am now, can't get much higher without a mortgage.  Just setting myself for the best possible situation in 3 years when the final lates / co's fall off unless somehow i can get them removed, but not likely with Sallie Mae (lates) and Cap1 being a few of the CO's...

 

Also it is my student loans and 2 backdated amex's to 1990 that are saving my AAoA as all the cards you see in my signature are less than a year old and still 4-6 years AAoA.. thank god for those life lines Smiley Happy

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TRC_WA
Senior Contributor

Re: Is a mid 700 score possible with a charge off?


@CreditCuriousity wrote:

@TRC_WA wrote:

@CreditCuriousity wrote:


 


I am breaking the 700 barrier with a slew of 120 lates, a few CO's.. So ya it is possible. TU04 is 735 atm, TU08 710ish.. All about 4 years olds+.. Only CRA that the 04 score score is higher than the 08 and no real difference on what is reporting.. very strange.. Other two are around 685-690 atm, should break 700 when a CA gets removed being a medical one sometime this week so EX/EQ should be greater than 700 and TU should hopefully go up as well with a slew of inquiries. Util 1% on 110k in credit. AAoA 4-6 years. Think the fairly thick credit file is helping me and long aaoa.


Low 700's may be possible... after a few years.  I don't see any chance of 750.

 

What's exciting to me is the score possibilities when I have the Ch 13 PR and dozen IIB accounts all falling off at the same time.  If I'm 670-680 with them still reporting after 6+ years... what kind of a score boost can I expect?

 

I'm being generous when I say 70 points on each CRA... which would put me 750 across the board.  I have 5 student loan accounts backdated to 2001 which will boost my AAoA quite a bit and hopefully offset the AAoA loss when the IIB accounts fall off.

 


I agree 750 isn't really possibly, but 700 for sure is as I am proof of this as well as many others...  With that said score isn't everything as if I ever go into manual review then a UW can very well hold that against me or not even manual review it can see it and be a denial.. It is what is in the report, not the score..  Granted higher score usually equal better profile.

 

Never dealt with a BK, so not sure what kinda boost you are to expect to be honest.. I know when my lates and CO's finally fall off I should be in the 750-780 range based on where I am now, can't get much higher without a mortgage.  Just setting myself for the best possible situation in 3 years when the final lates / co's fall off unless somehow i can get them removed, but not likely with Sallie Mae (lates) and Cap1 being a few of the CO's...

 

Also it is my student loans and 2 backdated amex's to 1990 that are saving my AAoA as all the cards you see in my signature are less than a year old and still 4-6 years AAoA.. thank god for those life lines Smiley Happy


Oh yeah I know score isn't everything.  I was approved in December for a $6700 Sallie Mae with a 666 TU.  My 16 months history with Barclay Apple card had more to do with my approval than my score... that and the fact I also had no new accounts or INQs in a year.  I've seen 700+ people have to recon for the same card.

 

I'm pretty confident I'll be 750+... the reports I've seen have been 60-90 point gains when BR public record/IIB accounts fall off.

 

My cards will be 1-3 years old when my reports clear up... and I expect the same lifeline from my 2001 student loans.  They only add up to about $5k total... but at $58 a month they'll be boosting my AAoA for quite a while.

 

But anyway.... yeah low 700's is definitely possible with a CO... that has aged a bit.  Anything recent will most definitely keep you in the upper 600's as I originally said.  Smiley Wink

FICO8 current as of : 4-17-24 EQ: 724 TU: 707 EX: 706
Hard INQs last 12 months: EQ: 5 | TU: 8 | EX: 9
Verizon Visa $8500 Amex Delta Reserve $10,000 Care Credit $18,000
NFCU CashRewards $7500 Apple Card $7000 Best Buy $8000 Amazon $5000
NFCU auto loan (2022 Ford Bronco Sport Badlands - Cactus Gray) 6.95%
NFCU motorcycle loan (2024 Harley Davidson Road Glide - Alpine Green & Chrome) 9.45%
Total CL: $64,000 --- Total CC UTI: 27% --- AAoA: 5.5 years --- Income: $200k
Last app: 4-6-24
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