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Need 58 Fico MORTGAGE Points, please help asap!

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Anonymous
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Re: Need 58 Fico MORTGAGE Points, please help asap!

I was told the same thing today by a lender Im working with. He said C/O don't matter, collections do. I planned on addressing my collection accounts first.
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Anonymous
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Re: Need 58 Fico MORTGAGE Points, please help asap!

So update, now I have TWO new cards, obviously have to wait for them to report. I hoped a Merrick Bank Secured card for $200 yesterday and this morning was approved for a $300 fingerhut revolving account. I was so happy!

 

My first secured I had on my card reported for the second month today Smiley Happy Still waiting on a collection to be removed (that I have the letter for) and the two capital one's that I paid off to be removed.

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Anonymous
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Re: Need 58 Fico MORTGAGE Points, please help asap!

"Technically" COs and collections don't need to be paid. However, 5% of the amount will be used in determining your monthly expenses. If you owe $10k to COs/collections, you will be considered to have a $500 payment due each month toward that, which can significantly impact your buying power.
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Anonymous
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Re: Need 58 Fico MORTGAGE Points, please help asap!


@Anonymous wrote:

I just applied for a secured card with Merrick Bank and was approved, says they report to all three credit bureaus, and sent in my $200.. Now I will have to wait for that one to update. So thank goodness will add that to it. I tried the Credit One and apparently I had a charge off at some point with them, atleast that's what it told me. I've never had an account with them lol.

 

Any other advice please let me know!

 

How many points do you think it will raise once the HP Sears account is gone, and those capital one's show 0 on my credit, right now one shows $900 the other shows $250 but I settled those in full, they are reporting monthly.


OK, here's the problem as I see it. Fully 1/3 of your score is based on balance management of your revolving accounts - your UTI%. Unpaid charged off revolving accounts are included in your UTI calculation under FICO scoring. You CANNOT get your UTI% to any reasonably *good* scoring percentage as long as these charge off remain unpaid. This is the main reason revolving charge offs are so much more damaging to your score than other derogs. They kill both you history and your UTI% portion s of your scores - thats 2/3 of the FICO score.

 

Once you settle ALL of the unpaid charge offs, and get them reporting a zero balance, then your low UTI% will kick in and you should see a decent rise in your scores. Whether that combined with a couple of new accounts will get you above 620 is anyones geuss but it will get you moving in the right direction.

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Re: Need 58 Fico MORTGAGE Points, please help asap!

Thought I would give an update on my mortgage fico scores, I am now at

591, 576, 575

 

So, I need 44 points to get to a 620. I am tempted to get a cheaper house because then I would qualify at a 580 score for FHA. BUT, I have two more months before I move, so I am going to be patient.  I have paid off THREE of the charge off's (the lowes, and two capital ones) so I am waiting on those to update on my report. I could probably pay it all off for $5,000 but then I wouldn't have any money left...

 

my normal fico scores are 606 / 601 / 572

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Re: Need 58 Fico MORTGAGE Points, please help asap!


@Anonymous wrote:

Thought I would give an update on my mortgage fico scores, I am now at

591, 576, 575

 

So, I need 44 points to get to a 620. I am tempted to get a cheaper house because then I would qualify at a 580 score for FHA. BUT, I have two more months before I move, so I am going to be patient.  I have paid off THREE of the charge off's (the lowes, and two capital ones) so I am waiting on those to update on my report. I could probably pay it all off for $5,000 but then I wouldn't have any money left...

 

my normal fico scores are 606 / 601 / 572


not to judge here but ur salary is 140,000 and u wouldnt have any money left if u pay off 5k? 

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Anonymous
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Re: Need 58 Fico MORTGAGE Points, please help asap!

Sorry I should have phrased that properly, meant to say that I wouldn't have the required down payment if I take the $5,000 from my down payment amount....

I will probably be able to within the next couple months as the paychecks come in. Also, we live in California with one income, it's drastically more here. So not as much disposable money as people living in other states may have, one of the reasons I'm getting transferred back to the Midwest...
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Imperfectfuture
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Re: Need 58 Fico MORTGAGE Points, please help asap!


@gdale6 wrote:

@Anonymous wrote:

@Anonymous wrote:

If he said you can get a mortgage with those reporting and not paid I would run. Why not pay your debts first?

 

** What are your current scores?


My current scores are:

576 / 535 / 562 These are my MORTGAGE fico scores..

 

He said charge offs do not have to be paid off. He just needs my score at 620 for the conventional.

 

Salary is $140,000

 


You are getting some bogus info there, all COs and CAs will have to be settled prior to closing, the lender who will fund your loan will demand it, If you want to be able to purrhcase a home within a reasonable period of time you need to make deals now to settle all of this, preferrably with PFDs. For any account who refuses your PFD and you settle with and if its not updating monthly now will cause a Fico score drop when they report the account paid off.


So much this.  Credit building is not a race, it is a journey.  Sadly, we get folks wanting (not needing, you have a place to live) a mortgage, can you help raise my scores ASAP?  Those charge offs when paid, will lower your score, because they update as new.  Been there with a dispute, done that.  For conventional loan, you will want much more than 629, the interest rate will kill.

 

it will take 6 months to a year for some serious recovery.  You need positive trade lines reporting, and a secured installment loan.  Did you mention how old the charge off were?

 

Don't feel offended at the slow pace.  The more knowledge you have, the better you can set your expectations.  Two years of positive payment history on three revolvers and one installment loan will work wonders, as well as removing the charge offs.  The reason they need to be paid?  Mortgage lenders want to see how you handle payments over long period of time.  And you let the accounts go bad.  I understand, I was there in 1/2008.  Choice between living, and paying debts I could no longer afford.  I made the choice, but there is a trade off, and you have met it.

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Anonymous
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Re: Need 58 Fico MORTGAGE Points, please help asap!

I have a truck loan that has been paid on time for three years, a closed revolving account and one open credit card two more should report soon. My score has drastically improved since I started. I do agree it is a long process. I have paid off a charge off and my score went up 20 points because prior they were reporting monthly a balance. I have three more I have paid off that were reporting monthly so just waiting on them to update as well. The only collection I have anymore is one from Verizon. All others are gone.
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