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trnl2016
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trnl2016's Rebuilding Log

Hi everyone!

 
I’ve been lurking for a few days and have finally gained the courage to begin the long journey toward repairing my credit. Prior to this, I had always felt that I was in too deep and I was too embarrassed to take care of my credit woes. In addition, my husband and I have lived (and continue to live) on very little income for several years so we have relied on credit cards for a long time now.
 
I kept telling myself that we’d work on my credit after we work on his… but after reading through the forums the past few days, I’m beginning to feel like we can do both at the same time.
 
Here is an overview:
 
  • TransUnion: 597 (CCT as of 01/04/2016)
  • Equifax: 627 (CCT as of 01/04/2016)
  • Experian 594 (CCT as of 01/04/2016)
  • AAoA: 8.8 - 9.1 yrs
  • Oldest account: 11.3 yrs
 
Accounts:
 
  • BofA - $0 - closed
  • BofA (AU/hubby’s card) - $5,400 / $5,800 - 93% UTI
  • Cap1 (AU/hubby’s card) - $2,900 / $3,750 - 77% UTI
  • Citi (AU/hubby’s card) - $14,750 / $15,000 - 98% UTI
  • Target - $200 / $800 - 25% UTI
  • Navient - 7 installment accounts - $29,500 (each has 4 missed payments from 2012, so 28 total missed payments in history, but all are current now)
  • SLC Conduit - 7 installment accounts all closed - previously SallieMae loans which were transferred to Navient (above)
  • Credit One - $0 - CO w/ 6 missed payments
  • UCSD - $1045 - shows “sent to collections” but I don’t see it in the collections section? Is it on its way or something? Would this be an opportunity to PFD the OC if they recall the debt?
 
Collections:
 
  • OC: Credit One (Midland Funding) - $850 (DOFD: 10/2011)
  • OC: Cap1 (Portfolio Recovery) - $800 (DOFD: 10/2011)
  • OC: DirecTV (TSI/909/Transworld Systems) - $385 (DOFD: 10/2012)
 
Obviously my two biggest issues are paying down our current cards since they are all maxed out, and taking care of my collections. This is what I intend to work on starting TODAY!
 
Some advice I’d love:
 
1. I have Credit One reporting both as a CO under “Accounts” and as a collections account. Is that normal? Should I try and get the CO removed?
 
2. Should I work on trying to PFD (or DV or GW?) my collections before paying down our current balances, or should we get our balances down as a higher priority? We only have about $1000/mo we can spend on paying cards and/or collections.
 
3. How does SOL work? I lived in California until mid-2015, and now live in Texas. It is 4 years for each state, so I think I’m in the clear / past SOL on two of my collections. What does that mean? What can I do? DV?
 
4. I have a couple of old accounts that are now closed but still on my CR… does that matter (see BofA and SLC Conduit above)? For example, the BofA card was opened in 2004, PIF and closed in 2005, no bad history — but shows on my report “closed at consumers request.” Is this something I should try to remove? Dunno if it’s worth noting that my SLC Conduit accounts (which are closed) are my oldest accounts.
 
5. My 7 installment loans are from Navient, which has each loan as a separate tradeline. Is it possible (or worth it) to ask them to consolidate it into a single lump-sum loan to bring that 7 down to 1? I feel like in a way it’s helping me because my CR shows I have 21 accounts which is “good” — 7 of them are the Navient loans. If I consolidate, it would bring me down to 15, I think.
 
6. I’ve read a lot about people removing old addresses from reports. I have moved several times and all of my reports have 2-3 names (middle initial, full middle name, maiden name, married name, etc) and 4-5 addresses, some of which are dupe addresses (#202 vs Apt 202)… is this something I should get taken care of? If so, do I just contact each CRA and ask them to remove the outdated info?
 
7. I notice that on Credit Karma it doesn’t show my current employer. Is that important?
 
Thank you all in advance!
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Anonymous
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Re: Rebuilding Log: No money, maxed out cards, and collections :(

" In addition, my husband and I have lived (and continue to live) on very little income for several years so we have relied on credit cards for a long time now."

 

This alone is a recipe for disaster (meaning worsening of the derog situation and eventual BK). Until the above can be remedied such that balances are being reduced each month, you're not going to really see any improvement.

 

It is critical that you remedy the above situation FIRST, then try to address unpaid derogs via PFD, while paying down debt. Since your Derogs (2 of them at least) are all past SOL, that just means you cannot be sued for them. I would be far more concerned with potential defaults on the current accounts, than anything else.

 
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trnl2016
Regular Contributor

Re: Rebuilding Log: No money, maxed out cards, and collections :(

Perhaps I exaggerated a bit, but I'm not concerned about defaulting on our current open accounts. We are consistently paying 3-5x the minimum payment and have no late payments at all. We are in a position now to pay a little more, but the part we struggle with is that we are currently only making like $50-100 progress each month on each account. If I'm understanding you correctly, you're suggesting that we focus on paying the balances down as our first priority? Since we're working on limited funds each month, I'm wondering if I should focus more of our money on fixing the collections first or paying the balances down first... obviously all are important, but I can only do so much each month, hehe.

 

I see all the insight you provide around these parts, and your advice is greatly appreciated. Thanks Smiley Happy

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Anonymous
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Re: Rebuilding Log: No money, maxed out cards, and collections :(


@trnl2016 wrote:

Perhaps I exaggerated a bit, but I'm not too concerned about defaulting on our current open accounts. We are consistently paying 3-5x the minimum payment and have no late payments at all. We are in a position now to pay a little more, but the part we struggle with is that we are only making like $50-100 progress each month on each account. If I'm understanding you correctly, you're suggesting that we focus on paying the balances down as our first priority?

 

I see all the insight you provide around these parts, and your advice is greatly appreciated. Thanks Smiley Happy


OK, yes you need to keep those balances going downward, even if it is only a small amount each month - that would be my priority #1. That is going to be the key to recovering your soocres, and financial stability. When you are in a position to do so, try to negotiate a PFD for the derogs, or a settlement.

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CYBERSAM
Senior Contributor

Re: Rebuilding Log: No money, maxed out cards, and collections :(

First of all, welcome.


The issue I see is you both are maxing your CCs, meaning you are spending more then you are making each month. As for your husband all it takes one collection to have creditors close all his accounts.


I would recommend cut your cards in half immediately. Go cash base(debit card) only till you pay your UTI down to under 30% (best case 10%) and forget about using your cards for rewards, given your high utilization and high APR. It negates the purpose of any rewards that you can possibly get from your cards.


With the cards that you have open, see what is the highest APR and focus on that card 1st, just add up your monthly interest and see how much you are paying in total. That is what you want to reduce the most.

 

The collection accounts are not that much! 2 things you can do: 1st CALL them, if you can afford PFD then go for it, if not then settle with them for half of the balance or whatever you feel comfortable with.

 

The biggest issue I see is stopping additional debit to your total.

 

To win this war go after small victories, one battle(CO) at a time. The fact that you are here and facing your issue is your 1st victory, every time you bring your UTI down 10% would be another victory.

 

About year and half ago, my score was 501 with more than 15K in collections, last 10 months I made over 1K in rewards from my CCs that I opened just for using them.
There are thousands of people like me in this site that turned things around. You guys are half as bad as where I was.
Good luck.







                
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trnl2016
Regular Contributor

Re: Rebuilding Log: No money, maxed out cards, and collections :(

Thanks 

 

 

Message 6 of 42
trnl2016
Regular Contributor

Re: Rebuilding Log: Lots of advice needed and appreciated :)

I drafted a DV for one of my collections. Anyone care to review and let me know how it sounds? I used a template found in another thread on these forums, but revised it some.

 

FROM: {My Name/Address}

 

TO: {CA Name/Address}


DATE: {Date I'm sending this}


RE: Account Reference #: {Account Number found on Experian report}

 

To whom it may concern:

 

I request validation of this debt per Texas Finance Code § 392.202 which requires a debt collection agency or credit bureau to provide the alleged debtor with specific information concerning their alleged debt. For the purpose of validation on this account, please provide me with:

 

  • The name and address of the original creditor
  • The original date of default or non-payment of the debt with the original creditor
  • The date the debt was transferred from the original creditor to the third party debt collector
  • The original balance
  • The current balance
  • Any interest, charges, fees, or other expenses added by your agency (§ 392.303(a)(2))
  • Texas surety bond information (§ 392.101)

 

Please note that TransUnion, Experian, and Equifax are bonded in the state of Texas and are required to comply with Texas Finance Code. If a debt collector fails to respond to this debt validation request within 30 calendar days from certified receipt, the debt shall be considered inaccurate per § 392.202(b)(2). If the debt is not validated as outlined above, you must delete the above-referenced tradeline from all credit reporting agencies (TransUnion, Experian, and Equifax) per § 392.202 (d)(1).

 

I also request immediate notification by mail if this alleged debt is sold or transferred to another agency per § 392.301(a)(4).

 

Please reply with your response via US mail.


Sincerely,

{My name}

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Anonymous
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Re: Rebuilding Log: No money, maxed out cards, and collections :(


@trnl2016 wrote:

Thanks 

 

 


In the end - no, it really doesn't. Just work to get the balances down as quickly as possible.

 

There are two ways to do this - method one, is basically what cyber suggests - attack the highest interest rate first. The other common method is the snowball - you throw everything at the lowest balance first, then roll that payment into the next lowest balance. This makes the most sense if you interest rate are similar.

 

What are the interest rates on each account?

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CYBERSAM
Senior Contributor

Re: Rebuilding Log: No money, maxed out cards, and collections :(


@trnl2016 wrote:

Thanks 

 

 


It’s widely considered over 30% will affect your credit negatively and under 10% its good, high utilization will bring scores down significantly and if you’re planning on getting a loan, you may want to consider those milestones.

 

 


@trnl2016 wrote:
Some advice I’d love:
 
1. I have Credit One reporting both as a CO under “Accounts” and as a collections account. Is that normal? Should I try and get the CO removed? You can file a dispute for duplicate report if the reporting date is the same, however if it’s been reported from Credit One and now the collection agency they may not remove it. But I would say give a shot!
 
2. Should I work on trying to PFD (or DV or GW?) my collections before paying down our current balances, or should we get our balances down as a higher priority? We only have about $1000/mo we can spend on paying cards and/or collections. I say both, some PFD may take few months to negotiate. Is best to start a conversation with them so they stop calling you and avoid getting a judgment against you.
 
3. How does SOL work? I lived in California until mid-2015, and now live in Texas. It is 4 years for each state, so I think I’m in the clear / past SOL on two of my collections. What does that mean? What can I do? DV? You have some CO that dates back to 2011-12 therefore CB may remove it soon after its paid anyway for SOL. In my state its 7 years and I had some collection fall off month after it was resolved or couple of years. Take a look at you TU CR, it should have a date for old accounts as when they going to expire.
 
4. I have a couple of old accounts that are now closed but still on my CR… does that matter (see BofA and SLC Conduit above)? For example, the BofA card was opened in 2004, PIF and closed in 2005, no bad history — but shows on my report “closed at consumers request.” Is this something I should try to remove? Dunno if it’s worth noting that my SLC Conduit accounts (which are closed) are my oldest accounts.Good account stay for 10years or so, if they are good let them show for history.
 
5. My 7 installment loans are from Navient, which has each loan as a separate tradeline. Is it possible (or worth it) to ask them to consolidate it into a single lump-sum loan to bring that 7 down to 1? I feel like in a way it’s helping me because my CR shows I have 21 accounts which is “good” — 7 of them are the Navient loans. If I consolidate, it would bring me down to 15, I think. I’m not familiar with Navient, but any good account would reflect on your history for 10years. So even if you close them it would show. In this case, I say if you can consolidate as much as you can, the better it is.
 
6. I’ve read a lot about people removing old addresses from reports. I have moved several times and all of my reports have 2-3 names (middle initial, full middle name, maiden name, married name, etc) and 4-5 addresses, some of which are dupe addresses (#202 vs Apt 202)… is this something I should get taken care of? If so, do I just contact each CRA and ask them to remove the outdated info? You can try, but I don’t think its that important. They have my address from 20 years ago. Its not effecting your score so I wouldn’t put too much energy in to it for now. One thing tho, to fix this you may have to dispute the info and by doing that, it may take 30 days plus. This could prevent you from opening new disputes as long as you have an open one.
 
7. I notice that on Credit Karma it doesn’t show my current employer. Is that important? NO! It could be a good thing, last thing you want for collection agencies to call up your work, trust me Smiley Mad  But the reason is not showing your current employer is because you have not applied for any new credits recently that required employment info. When you get a new CC or a loan then it would list the new info.

 

I see that you have talked about Credit Karma,consider them as entertainments propose only. They are good for overview of your CR, not for planning your rebuilding process and accuracy of your actual credit file. Just go with what is showing in TU, EQ and EX directly.

 

 







                
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Anonymous
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Re: Rebuilding Log: Lots of advice needed and appreciated :)

Do you have any credit in your name? Not as an AU. If you do I'd think about getting removed as AU from your hubby's cards since the UTI is so high. That should raise your score depending on how bad your AAOA gets hit
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