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@Anonymous wrote:
Agreed palmdale. I have been told it's an algorithm overall. Realistically idc if you have 20k posts if you only have 1 kudo then what you say is likely hogwash and you don't deserve to rank up. You need to be a person that people see as a value to the site and not a nuisance.
I edited my example a bit, becuase I noticed I wasn't even reading my example code correctly..lol. In the example, all that really mattered were, logins, age of account, and then a combination of all other forum features combined. Just wanted to clarify. I did see an admin post somewhere that logins were a definite factor in this forum, so if myfico is structured like the example, logins and age of account could be holding many people back.
I totally agree with you, it doensn't really matter, but in my opinion it is always fun to rank up in forums, so it is something worth discussing and speculating about...
palmdale wrote:
I have never heard of someone setting up a forum which required the Admin/moderator to approve ranks. I highly doubt that is happening here. Post count most likely plays a large role in the ranking system, but I wouldn't discount the other factors. As you can see in the example code I posted, if you don't meet the differenct sets of criteria, you will not rank up.
Example:
You have 200,000 posts, but you have only 100 logins. In this forum, you will most likely still be stuck at a low rank, until you meet the minimum threshold for the logins category in the ranking formula. Many different variables could be holding you back from ranking up, even with a crazy post count. That is the brilliance of the Lithium ranking system You are rewarded for being being an all around (Active) user, and not just a post spammer.
I agree, rankings should be automated based on a formula without need of admin review. Manual adjustment was pure speculation based on a few glaring unexplainable outliers.
A primary factor available for review is posts by rank as summarized in the above table. There are undoubtedly some errors in the summary but it should be close.
Another important factor I can confirm is minutes on-line (recent system glitch on 7/22/2016 re-set my time to 160 minutes from over 20,000 and rank dropped from Valued Contributor to Member. At around 200 minutes rank changed to Established Member and then to Valued Member around 500 minutes. [Need to sign off and back on to refresh on-line minutes display].
There are a few glaring outliers for rank by # posts but, not many. Looking at some of the high count/lower rank outliers, many had plenty of kudos so lower rank not related to that factor in these cases. Perhaps it is minutes on-line. [Did these posters lose on-line minutes from a prior glitch?]
I don't see many people posting here just to increase count as a means to a higher rank. Most post because they have ideas they want to share or have questions they want answered. As for rankings, it's just another data set to look at.
@Anonymous wrote:
I have been at senior quite a while.
To an extent you could attempt to find out what is holding you back. Assuming the code I posted is similar to what is used here, you could see if anyone has a higher rank than you, but has been a member for a shorter time. If there is such a user, then you would know that it isn't the age of your account that is holding you back. Then you could ask around to see how many logins the users with a higher rank than yours have. If they are all higher than yours, you could do some logging in and out and see if you rank up. If you don't then there is another factor involved as well, and unless someone reveals it it would be hard to figure out...lol.
@Thomas_Thumb wrote:
@Anonymous wrote:
I don't think kudos received has much to do with it as some of the super contributors have under 1500 received and a low percentage of posts to kudos. To me anything over 20% is good because that means much of what you say is of some value.Best I can telll the rankings are almost exclusively based on # posts. You need a certain minimum posts to get to the next level. Logins and kodos don't appear to be factors. Best I can tell is the change in rank is done manually but is likely triggered by an automatic notification. If the notification is not acted upon and forgotten, the user may not receive a higher ranking. A likely breakdown of minimum posts for each rank is shown below. [note: visitor rankings would follow the same QTY for posts as member rankings]
Ranking Posts New Member 1 Member 5 Established Member 10 Valued Member 25 New Contributor 50 Contributor 75 Regular contributor 100 Frequent Contributor 250 Established Contributor 500 Valued Contributor 1000 Senior Contributor 3000 Super Contributor 5000 Mega Contributor 10,000 Epic Contributor 20,000
Nope wrong not even close Lol
By your chart I don't even have a ranking so I'll take Cosmic Explorer Contributor as my ranking ....Thanks Lol
I have over 30k post last I looked and only cause someone pointed it out to me and you see my ranking and yet some members with far less time and post count have a higher ranking than I do
From comparing notes with other members I can assure you that total log in also plays a roll in the algorithm
I also know for sure that time spent online along with contributions made during that time is a factor time/post ratio
But that's as far as I care to expel thought into it
@myjourney wrote:
@Thomas_Thumb wrote:
@Anonymous wrote:
I don't think kudos received has much to do with it as some of the super contributors have under 1500 received and a low percentage of posts to kudos. To me anything over 20% is good because that means much of what you say is of some value.Best I can telll the rankings are almost exclusively based on # posts. You need a certain minimum posts to get to the next level.
Logins andkodos don't appear to be factors. Best I can tell is the change in rank is done manually but is likely triggered by an automatic notification. If the notification is not acted upon and forgotten, the user may not receive a higher ranking. A likely breakdown of minimum posts for each rank is shown below. [note: visitor rankings would follow the same QTY for posts as member rankings]
Ranking Posts New Member 1 Member 5 Established Member 10 Valued Member 25 New Contributor 50 Contributor 75 Regular contributor 100 Frequent Contributor 250 Established Contributor 500 Valued Contributor 1000 Senior Contributor 3000 Super Contributor 5000 Mega Contributor 10,000 Epic Contributor 20,000
Nope wrong not even close Lol
By your chart I don't even have a ranking so I'll take Cosmic Explorer Contributor as my ranking ....Thanks Lol
I have over 30k post last I looked and only cause someone pointed it out to me and you see my ranking and yet some members with far less time and post count have a higher ranking than I do
From comparing notes with other members I can assure you that total log in also plays a roll in the algorithm
I also know for sure that time spent online along with contributions made during that time is a factor time/post ratio
But that's as far as I care to expel thought into it
The chart is not an entitlement list. As mentioned it represents a minimum number of posts to potentially get to that ranking.. As you so aptly show, you can post a lot but remain at a lower ranking.
@Anonymous wrote:
Agreed palmdale. I have been told it's an algorithm overall. Realistically idc if you have 20k posts if you only have 1 kudo thenwhat you say is likely hogwash andyou don't deserve to rank up. You need to be a person that people see as a value to the site and not a nuisance.
Not seeing a correlation relating to kudos received or given based on available data.
Perhaps # sign ins, minutes on-line, page views and messages read in addition to # posts .