@Uborrow-Upay wrote:P.S. to Guardian --- When you're passionate about a subject, you'll sometimes get admonished...we're in the same "club" on these boards!
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P.P.S. to Guardian --- You pretty much said the same thing ( about the failure mindset) in your post just above this, sorry, I didn't mean to replicate what is essentially the same answer.
Thank you for the shout out and glad you understand me. I always hate the fact that when misunderstood I can hardly do anything to set it right but ultimately anyone who gets to know me knows I try to act honorably no matter what, even if don't look or sound like it sometimes. Thanks though, I am glad I am not a completely lost cause 
And no worries on repeating anything, if its a good point, it never hurts to hear it again 
WoW, thanks everyone for your kind words and support. I truly mean it. I am going to do my best in the next couple of days to really quite the habit. I have gotten to the point where I just can't stand to smell like an ashtray. My clothes smell, my car smells and even my wife gets the smell on her. She can't stand it. So, aside from the health consequences, my wife is pretty feed up with the smoking thing. She won't even kiss me anymore. 
My wife works in a pharmacy and can get the nicotine gum really cheap. I am going to use that and lots and lots of sunflower seeds. Thanks again everyone for the support, and if I come off a little crazy sounding in future posts, don't worry I'm just jonesing.
My wife works in a pharmacy and can get the nicotine gum really cheap. I am going to use that and lots and lots of sunflower seeds. Thanks again everyone for the support, and if I come off a little crazy sounding in future posts, don't worry I'm just jonesing.
@dizbuster wrote:
WoW, thanks everyone for your kind words and support. I truly mean it. I am going to do my best in the next couple of days to really quite the habit. I have gotten to the point where I just can't stand to smell like an ashtray. My clothes smell, my car smells and even my wife gets the smell on her. She can't stand it. So, aside from the health consequences, my wife is pretty feed up with the smoking thing. She won't even kiss me anymore.
Good for you, and wish you all the best and know that you can do it. Its purely mind over matter and you just need to find what works for you and attack it. Use the gum, use the seeds and if your job allows for walking around with a lolipop or a dum dum or sucker in your mouth (my friend did that working at the docks) then it will help with oral fixation part. When you start jonesing like I did sometimes before it wore off, get up and go grab a glass of water or juice or something and down it in one solid shot, you will be surprised how quickly it will kill that craving and if you have the gum and choose to go with that, wait a couple minutes and if you feel like you need it then take the gum and it will wear off. It will ultimately become a conditioning and it will get replaced as a habit. All we can hope for is not replacing it with another bad habit
@Anonymous wrote:I've noticed that smoking is addictive in almost everyone who does it for a while, but the LEVELS of addiction vary widely.
I'm one of those hard-core 3-pack a day smokers, and have been for many years - my emphysema attests to that.
This kid is extremely intelligent. Also a hard-core realist. Yet NOTHING I've tried has helped. Leaving them in another room, so I have to get up and go fetch them to have one. Marking each cig with a line, below which I will STOP, snub it out and maybe finish it later - like making one cig stand in for two. Cold turkey I've done twice, with people who were literally my "wardens." They had possession of my keys, money, etc., and I would only be allowed to use them for "righteous" purposes. This way, I've been off more than a month. But the first time I smelled someone's cigarette, I was instantly hooked again, then went out and bought a pack. You can't buy just one cig, and you can guess where it went from there. Like an alcoholic, just one gets you right back to square one.
This habit OWNS me. I don't even know who I AM if I can't smoke. Nor do I know what to do with my hands, and I've got a very active mind that means I have to be doing something all the time.
I'm scared to death, because I can FEEL it killing me now. Yet I can't quit. And it isn't for lack of desperately trying, either.
So how do the hard-core cases like me manage to quit? If any.
I hear you and believe me I felt like that the first 3 times I "tried" to quit and went back on it and I know people who have been through the same thing. Its not entirely your fault and science is trying to catch up on this and there seems to be a link to genetic factors that hooks some more than others. There are more radical chemically based treatments intended for cases like yours. It is NOT hopeless, I promise you that, just talk to your doctor and tell them to refer you to a trial in your area or a clinic that specializes in it. It is similar to the treatment for heroin for example, using substitute synthetics until the body adjusts, or alcoholism by inducing the bitterness and throw up to condition and so on, this is intended to actually compete and BLOCK the recepters that give you that pleasure allowing for your body to have a chance at getting that addiction dissociated. Talk to your doctor and I assure you there IS a way, just be persistent and don't give up on yourself.
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Guardian wrote: "Thanks though, I am glad I am not a completely lost cause"
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"I've always had a weakness for lost causes, once they're really lost." - Rhett Butler
Ah, you say the sweetest things
Well I already kicked the habit *crossing fingers its permanent this time* but I will ride it out with you. At the very least I can provide moral support.
