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Anonymous
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Affect of default on CS?

Dad has 850 across the boards, 15+ Years aaoa. Perfect payment history.

What will happen if my dad defaults on a time share? Will he still be able to obtain a loan/mortgage?
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NRB525
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Re: Affect of default on CS?

Interesting question.

 

How does the timeshare appear on his credit report?

What sort of credit product is it referenced as?

How long has he had the timeshare, how much more time to run on the payments?

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Anonymous
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Re: Affect of default on CS?

Just like a house or apartment rental that don't report to the CB.... Judgement I assume... Just a guess...
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Anonymous
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Re: Affect of default on CS?


@Anonymous wrote:
Just like a house or apartment rental that don't report to the CB.... Judgement I assume... Just a guess...

It's like a mortgage though. 

 

You have to pay $800 yearly maintenance fee and it is steadily climbing. 

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Anonymous
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Re: Affect of default on CS?


@NRB525 wrote:

Interesting question.

 

How does the timeshare appear on his credit report? I think it will appear like a loan. I'm not 100% sure, but it is just yearly "maintenance fees" aka HOA fees.

What sort of credit product is it referenced as? No clue....

How long has he had the timeshare, how much more time to run on the payments? He already paid the loan/mortgage for it off....but it's just the maintenance fees...


 

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NRB525
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Re: Affect of default on CS?

Well, two avenues of further review are yours to follow:

 

1) Determine what DD credit report shows, whether this shows up at all. I doubt that it does.

 

2) Read all the documentation for the Timeshare property / mortgage and see what their lien rights or confiscation rights are for the maintenance fees. They may simply forfeit the TS visit rights if you don't pay the fees.

 

Alternately, sell the timeshare rights for $1 to someone willing to take over the $800 yearly maintenance fees, and use the results of #2 above to cleanly and completely transfer the TS over to someone else.

High Bal Jan 2009 $116k on $146k limits 80% Util.
Oct 2014 $46k on $127k 36% util EQ 722 TU 727 EX 727
April 2018 $18k on $344k 5% util EQ 806 TU 810 EX 812
Jan 2019 $7.6k on $360k EQ 832 TU 839 EX 831
March 2021 $33k on $312k EQ 796 TU 798 EX 801
May 2021 Paid all Installments and Mortgages, one new Mortgage EQ 761 TY 774 EX 777
April 2022 EQ=811 TU=807 EX=805 - TU VS 3.0 765
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Anonymous
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Re: Affect of default on CS?


@NRB525 wrote:

Well, two avenues of further review are yours to follow:

 

1) Determine what DD credit report shows, whether this shows up at all. I doubt that it does.

 

2) Read all the documentation for the Timeshare property / mortgage and see what their lien rights or confiscation rights are for the maintenance fees. They may simply forfeit the TS visit rights if you don't pay the fees.

 

Alternately, sell the timeshare rights for $1 to someone willing to take over the $800 yearly maintenance fees, and use the results of #2 above to cleanly and completely transfer the TS over to someone else.


http://homeguides.sfgate.com/happens-dont-pay-maintenance-fees-timeshare-51231.html

 

Looks like its a public record.

 

Don't think anyone will buy the TS because the company who owned it went bankrupt. 

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elim
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Re: Affect of default on CS?

give it away before defaulting

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Anonymous
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@elim wrote:

give it away before defaulting



http://homeguides.sfgate.com/happens-dont-pay-maintenance-fees-timeshare-51231.html

 

Looks like its a public record.

 

Don't think anyone will buy the TS because the company who owned it went bankrupt. 


 

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NRB525
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Re: Affect of default on CS?


@Anonymous wrote:

 

 

 


 

 

Don't think anyone will buy the TS because the company who owned it went bankrupt


Ok, and the Slow Reveal continues... you didn't mention that in the opening post?

 

If the TS is going through bankruptcy, then there is a bankruptcy court hearing that is going to determine how the value / ownership of those TS shares is going to be handled. DD may end up with no value if the assets are sold off anyway, and the handling of the maintenance fees would need to re-start under a new ownership program, potentially a completely new TS agreement, which may or may not include a distribution of assets if any remain. I would not walk away from the TS paperwork just yet, because a lot can happen.

 

Contact the group that is handling the bankruptcy hearing, there should be some level of bankruptcy court filings and notice to the TS holders about what is happening. DD should have already gotten some sort of notification.

 

You have research to do, grasshopper. Get to it.

High Bal Jan 2009 $116k on $146k limits 80% Util.
Oct 2014 $46k on $127k 36% util EQ 722 TU 727 EX 727
April 2018 $18k on $344k 5% util EQ 806 TU 810 EX 812
Jan 2019 $7.6k on $360k EQ 832 TU 839 EX 831
March 2021 $33k on $312k EQ 796 TU 798 EX 801
May 2021 Paid all Installments and Mortgages, one new Mortgage EQ 761 TY 774 EX 777
April 2022 EQ=811 TU=807 EX=805 - TU VS 3.0 765
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