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SouthJamaica
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Re: Any data points on installment loan <70%


@Anonymous wrote:

Interesting.  I wonder what those combined percentages would be that trigger different boosts.

 

When I pulled my FICO scores a few weeks ago from CCT, one of the factors they listed as positively impacting my scores was "significant" portions of my installment loans had been paid down... some wording along those lines.  To me, with my mortgage being at 76% and my car loan being at 74% at the time, I was surprised that paying down 24% and 26% respectively was considered "significant" in the eyes of FICO scoring. 


Many have concluded that getting under 80% leads to a FICO score boost.


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SouthJamaica
Mega Contributor

Re: Any data points on installment loan <70%


@Thomas_Thumb wrote:

Installment loans are looked at in aggregate onle (total balance/total loan ratio). They do not have an indivitual element like revolving credit cards.

 

CAPTOOL shared data back in 9/2015 that showed a step change improvement in score when his aggregate B/L ratio went from a percentage in low 70s to the high 60s. See link below:

http://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Understanding-FICO-Scoring/Installment-tradeline-utilization-thread/...

 

Mortgage loans are designated differently and given their own summary category on credit reports. I've never had anything but mortgage loans in my file so I can't speak personally with respect to car loans or other installment loans. Regardless, for a mortgage by itself or in aggregate with other installment loans, you don't need to be below 50% B/L (let alone below 10%) to get a top score.


Thank you, I didn't know that.

 

I stand corrected.

 

I'm learning every day here.


Total revolving limits 741200 (620700 reporting) FICO 8: EQ 703 TU 704 EX 687

Message 12 of 26
Thomas_Thumb
Senior Contributor

Re: Any data points on installment loan <70%


@SouthJamaica wrote:

@Thomas_Thumb wrote:

Installment loans are looked at in aggregate onle (total balance/total loan ratio). They do not have an indivitual element like revolving credit cards.

 

CAPTOOL shared data back in 9/2015 that showed a step change improvement in score when his aggregate B/L ratio went from a percentage in low 70s to the high 60s. See link below:

http://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Understanding-FICO-Scoring/Installment-tradeline-utilization-thread/...

 

Mortgage loans are designated differently and given their own summary category on credit reports. I've never had anything but mortgage loans in my file so I can't speak personally with respect to car loans or other installment loans. Regardless, for a mortgage by itself or in aggregate with other installment loans, you don't need to be below 50% B/L (let alone below 10%) to get a top score.


Thank you, I didn't know that.

 

I stand corrected.

 

I'm learning every day here.


SJ, just to clarify things:

 

All installment loans (including mortgages) may be aggregated together as a scoring metric. However, the aggregate balance to loan ratio can certainly be 65% without preventing one from reaching a score of 850. See link below on Inverse data.

 

http://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Understanding-FICO-Scoring/FICO-9-inquiry-impact-and-aging/m-p/45816...

 

 

Fico 9: .......EQ 850 TU 850 EX 850
Fico 8: .......EQ 850 TU 850 EX 850
Fico 4 .....:. EQ 809 TU 823 EX 830 EX Fico 98: 842
Fico 8 BC:. EQ 892 TU 900 EX 900
Fico 8 AU:. EQ 887 TU 897 EX 899
Fico 4 BC:. EQ 826 TU 858, EX Fico 98 BC: 870
Fico 4 AU:. EQ 831 TU 872, EX Fico 98 AU: 861
VS 3.0:...... EQ 835 TU 835 EX 835
CBIS: ........EQ LN Auto 940 EQ LN Home 870 TU Auto 902 TU Home 950
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SouthJamaica
Mega Contributor

Re: Any data points on installment loan <70%


@Thomas_Thumb wrote:

@SouthJamaica wrote:

@Thomas_Thumb wrote:

Installment loans are looked at in aggregate onle (total balance/total loan ratio). They do not have an indivitual element like revolving credit cards.

 

CAPTOOL shared data back in 9/2015 that showed a step change improvement in score when his aggregate B/L ratio went from a percentage in low 70s to the high 60s. See link below:

http://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Understanding-FICO-Scoring/Installment-tradeline-utilization-thread/...

 

Mortgage loans are designated differently and given their own summary category on credit reports. I've never had anything but mortgage loans in my file so I can't speak personally with respect to car loans or other installment loans. Regardless, for a mortgage by itself or in aggregate with other installment loans, you don't need to be below 50% B/L (let alone below 10%) to get a top score.


Thank you, I didn't know that.

 

I stand corrected.

 

I'm learning every day here.


SJ, just to clarify things:

 

All installment loans (including mortgages) may be aggregated together as a scoring metric. However, the aggregate balance to loan ratio can certainly be 65% without preventing one from reaching a score of 850. See link below on Inverse data.

 

http://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Understanding-FICO-Scoring/FICO-9-inquiry-impact-and-aging/m-p/45816...

 

 


Oh, OK. So mortgages do get aggregated with other installment loans.


Total revolving limits 741200 (620700 reporting) FICO 8: EQ 703 TU 704 EX 687

Message 14 of 26
Anonymous
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Re: Any data points on installment loan <70%

I think they said it was somewhere in the 60's?  I'm on my way down like you.  I haven't notice too much of a difference yet.  My mortgage if just going under 90%.  Still too new to matter.  I also got a moto loan of 10k just to diversity and they included both of those together.  I would have been in the 60's if I they didn't do it that way.  I guess because both are installment loans?

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masscredit
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Re: Any data points on installment loan <70%

I'm researching this info now.  I don't have a mortgage but do have an auto loan.  Starting balance was $24,995. Current balance is $18,233.  69% would be $17,246. I have 3 months until I get it down to that amount. Maybe I'll pick up a few points.

 

I should have borrowed more then made a big first payment to get the percentage down quickly. I'll probably do that with my next car.

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Anonymous
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Re: Any data points on installment loan <70%

Mine is at 69% right now and should be reported any day to the bureaus.  Once I pull the scores I'll be sure to report back if there was any measurable gain across my scores.

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SouthJamaica
Mega Contributor

Re: Any data points on installment loan <70%


@Thomas_Thumb wrote:

Installment loans are looked at in aggregate onle (total balance/total loan ratio). They do not have an indivitual element like revolving credit cards.

 

CAPTOOL shared data back in 9/2015 that showed a step change improvement in score when his aggregate B/L ratio went from a percentage in low 70s to the high 60s. See link below:

http://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Understanding-FICO-Scoring/Installment-tradeline-utilization-thread/...

 

Mortgage loans are designated differently and given their own summary category on credit reports. I've never had anything but mortgage loans in my file so I can't speak personally with respect to car loans or other installment loans. Regardless, for a mortgage by itself or in aggregate with other installment loans, you don't need to be below 50% B/L (let alone below 10%) to get a top score.


Wow I'm impressed that you remembered that Smiley Happy


Total revolving limits 741200 (620700 reporting) FICO 8: EQ 703 TU 704 EX 687

Message 18 of 26
surferchris
Valued Contributor

Re: Any data points on installment loan <70%


@SouthJamaica wrote:

@Thomas_Thumb wrote:

Installment loans are looked at in aggregate onle (total balance/total loan ratio). They do not have an indivitual element like revolving credit cards.

 

CAPTOOL shared data back in 9/2015 that showed a step change improvement in score when his aggregate B/L ratio went from a percentage in low 70s to the high 60s. See link below:

http://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Understanding-FICO-Scoring/Installment-tradeline-utilization-thread/...

 

Mortgage loans are designated differently and given their own summary category on credit reports. I've never had anything but mortgage loans in my file so I can't speak personally with respect to car loans or other installment loans. Regardless, for a mortgage by itself or in aggregate with other installment loans, you don't need to be below 50% B/L (let alone below 10%) to get a top score.


Wow I'm impressed that you remembered that Smiley Happy


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Anonymous
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Re: Any data points on installment loan <70%

Yes, can't say for sure if it was the auto loan or just the aging of my accounts.  But 50 points was significant.

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