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EX score down to 683 from 710?

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WallyxD
Frequent Contributor

EX score down to 683 from 710?

Mint emailed me that my CC util was 77%, but that was only one card, it's only 39% across both credit lines. In addition to the 39% util, I've only had a 1 new inq posted.  How is it that my score dropped 27 points from just those two things?

AE CC: $1,050 | AEO Visa: $1,890 | Cap1 QS: $2,100 | Chase Freedom: $1,000 | Citi Forward: $1,500 | Citi Double Cash: $1,000 | Discover iT: $500 | GameStop: $1,650 | Overstock: $1,700 | PayPal Smart Connect: $1,500 | Walmart $2,200

TU (Discover): 663 | EQ (Citi): 651
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MovingForward_2012
Valued Contributor

Re: EX score down to 683 from 710?

It dropped due to the inquiry and increased utilization.
Cards: Orchard Bank ($1100) | Cap1 Cash Rewards ($2500) | Chase Freedom ($1000) | Best Buy ($2500) | Discover It ($1000) | Barclay Rewards ($2500) | Current scores: EX FAKO: 684, CK TU: 649, FICO EQ: 680, FICO TU: 698, FICO EX: 658 Happy Homeowner Since 2/6/13! Smiley Happy Last App: 4/5/13 Gardening until July 2014
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xiownthisplacex
Frequent Contributor

Re: EX score down to 683 from 710?

Fico takes into account util from total and individual cards. Optimal util is 9% (as others have found). And a HP does affect your score short term, but it should bounce back up with time.

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LS2982
Mega Contributor

Re: EX score down to 683 from 710?

You said this is an EX score where did you get it from?



EQ FICO 548 3/3/16
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WallyxD
Frequent Contributor

Re: EX score down to 683 from 710?

Yes I know they were the reasons, I just didn't think I'd see that much of a drop, now I'd understand if util was say, 50%, but 39% and one inq doesn't seem that big of a deal for that big of a drop

AE CC: $1,050 | AEO Visa: $1,890 | Cap1 QS: $2,100 | Chase Freedom: $1,000 | Citi Forward: $1,500 | Citi Double Cash: $1,000 | Discover iT: $500 | GameStop: $1,650 | Overstock: $1,700 | PayPal Smart Connect: $1,500 | Walmart $2,200

TU (Discover): 663 | EQ (Citi): 651
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xiownthisplacex
Frequent Contributor

Re: EX score down to 683 from 710?


@WallyxD wrote:

Yes I know they were the reasons, I just didn't think I'd see that much of a drop, now I'd understand if util was say, 50%, but 39% and one inq doesn't seem that big of a deal for that big of a drop


It's because one of your cards is at 77% now (almost maxed out), which Fico Scoring takes into account. Not just your overall util is used, but individual as well.

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WallyxD
Frequent Contributor

Re: EX score down to 683 from 710?


@LS2982 wrote:
You said this is an EX score where did you get it from?

They were listed on my two denials. (I forgot about the one app, so I guess now it's the util and 2 inqs that affected my score).

AE CC: $1,050 | AEO Visa: $1,890 | Cap1 QS: $2,100 | Chase Freedom: $1,000 | Citi Forward: $1,500 | Citi Double Cash: $1,000 | Discover iT: $500 | GameStop: $1,650 | Overstock: $1,700 | PayPal Smart Connect: $1,500 | Walmart $2,200

TU (Discover): 663 | EQ (Citi): 651
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SnackTrader
Valued Contributor

Re: EX score down to 683 from 710?

Are you sure you're comparing the same scoring models? Remember, there are FICOs and FAKOs - and even within FICOs there are variations. Given that it is EX, you are likely looking at a FAKO and shouldn't necessarily depend on the score. However, if your utilization did indeed increase to 77%, you would likely see a reduction in your FICO as well, but the amount of that reduction may differ. 

 

Edit: You posted while I was typing. Potentially different EX models. Which lenders provided which scores?


In My Wallet: Amex BCP (12/12) $50,000, Chase Freedom (12/12) $16,500, Cap1 Quicksilver (6/12) $14,000, Barclaycard Rewards (5/13) $10,500, Citi Prestige (4/16) $30,000

Last App: June 27, 2015
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LS2982
Mega Contributor

Re: EX score down to 683 from 710?


@SnackTrader wrote:

Are you sure you're comparing the same scoring models? Remember, there are FICOs and FAKOs - and even within FICOs there are variations. Given that it is EX, you are likely looking at a FAKO and shouldn't necessarily depend on the score. However, if your utilization did indeed increase to 77%, you would likely see a reduction in your FICO as well, but the amount of that reduction may differ. 

 

Edit: You posted while I was typing. Potentially different EX models. Which lenders provided which scores?


Unless they were AMEX denials I wouldn't put too much stock in those being EX FICO's.

 




EQ FICO 548 3/3/16
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distantarray
Established Contributor

Re: EX score down to 683 from 710?

it takes single card utilization and average across the board in calculation of your score.

 

Debt/credit ratio is 30-35% of your score, it's not unusual to see close to 100 point difference between 0 to 100% utilized.


total credit limits $108,400 Credit scores Ex 728 EQ 738 TU 758
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