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jason0618
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Explain these scores

OK, so I know there arI'm guessing FAKO is a fake score, but I don't understand how it works.  

 

Myfico says my score is 573 as of today, but if I pull my score at equifax.com, it tells me my score is 427.  That's a HUGE difference for both purporting to be equifax scores...

On top of that, credit sesame tells me my score is 591, and creditkarma says 507...

 

With all of this, I have no idea what my score is, and most importantly, if anything I'm doing is having a positive effect on my scores.  

Scores as of 04/2021





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MarineVietVet
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Re: Explain these scores


@jason0618 wrote:

OK, so I know there arI'm guessing FAKO is a fake score, but I don't understand how it works.  

 

Myfico says my score is 573 as of today, but if I pull my score at equifax.com, it tells me my score is 427.  That's a HUGE difference for both purporting to be equifax scores...

On top of that, credit sesame tells me my score is 591, and creditkarma says 507...

 

With all of this, I have no idea what my score is, and most importantly, if anything I'm doing is having a positive effect on my scores.  


It is confusing but I'll try and explain.

 

The EQ score here is a true FICO score. At the EQ website they sell both a FICO score and their own "Equifax Credit Score" which is not an EQ FICO and is not used by any lenders. You have to be very careful what you buy directly from the EQ website. That EQ FICO score can be found here: www.equifax.com/web-myfico-products/

 

No one has been able to buy their own Experian FICO score since February of 2009. Creditors can pull Experian and also there is a CU (PSECU) in Pennsylvania that supplies that information to it's members only. You can only buy true FICO scores at a few places. One place is here at myFICO.

At one time you could also purchase your Transunion score at transunioncs.com but no more. Wal Mart now offers a TU08 score to those who have their store card and the Discover version.

 

(With all due credit to long time member llecs for this):

"Virtually everyone sells scores, but they are not all FICO scores. If you got scores from the big 3, then very likely 2 or all 3 of them are not FICO scores. Experian and TransUnion do not sell FICO scores on their website. We call these non-FICO scores, FAKOs, and can easily be as much as a few points to 100+ points off your real FICO when pulled the same day. If it didn't say "FICO" next to the score, then it isn't.

Other companies (e.g. freecreditreport.com, freescore.com, truecredit, creditkarma, Equifax Credit Complete, Quizzle, and dozens of others out there) sell scores, but they are nothing more than gimmicks and lenders don't use them. They do this because they want to avoid paying any fees to FICO and when they say "credit score" people buy it anyway on the assumption that it is a FICO. The scores are off because the formula is different, factors in different things as compared to FICO, and score ranges are different than FICO's (e.g. FICO is 300-850, Vantage is 501-990, PLUS is 330-830, TransRisk is 350-850, and so on)."

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jason0618
Frequent Contributor

Re: Explain these scores

Thanks for moving this to the correct section...

 

So then with the equifax purchase, I'm basically wasting my money, since myfico is the only score that actually "counts" for anything"  then?  Credit karma is free, so I'm not concerned about that, but that, too is basically a waste of time to check, since it doesn't count, either?  I'm guessing that even if a FAKO doesn't count as a real score, I can still use the information reported on those reports as being legit?  ie, car loans, credit cards, etc...

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MarineVietVet
Moderator Emeritus

Re: Explain these scores


@jason0618 wrote:

Thanks for moving this to the correct section...

 

So then with the equifax purchase, I'm basically wasting my money, since myfico is the only score that actually "counts" for anything"  then?  Credit karma is free, so I'm not concerned about that, but that, too is basically a waste of time to check, since it doesn't count, either?  I'm guessing that even if a FAKO doesn't count as a real score, I can still use the information reported on those reports as being legit?  ie, car loans, credit cards, etc...


Unless a score (any score) has the word "FICO" attached to it you can be sure it is useless.

 

Yes the reports are accurate from these FAKO sites but you cannot rely on the scores for accuracy. Also you need to ignore any advice given at these sites because that advice is often the exact opposite of what will actually help your credit situation.

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js0319
Established Contributor

Re: Explain these scores

CreditKarma is a TU FAKO, and CreditSesame is a an EX FAKO. As mentioned before, these scores are essentially useless and do not have any relation to your FICO scores.

 

My CreditKarma score is currently a 564, while the lender pull I had from yesterday shows me at a 538 with TU.

 

Even within TU, there are different scoring models - such as TU98, TU04, and TU08, so you could even get differing scores based upon which system the lender uses when they pull your credit.


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