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slund5499
Established Contributor

FICO Score test effects

Removed as AU on spouse Capital One QS ($2,000 CL with $1600 balance) and will see how long it takes to update to CRA. I am performing this test to see what affect this has on FICO scoring. Current fico are 666, 644 and 669. Utilization currently 33%.

 

I anticipate that Utilization will drop to 21%. But the 5 year history with perfect payments may hurt AAofA.

 

Will report once changes have een reported. If I do not like the ROI for this action, I can always be added back on as AU.

In the garden since 02/1/23. Newest Account AU Discover It 10K
02/23 Scores; EQ 608 TU 642 EX 575 CCU: 20%, Inq. 2, 1, 2 Collections $39K
Lending Club: newest account 2/3/23. Old Fico 1/17 EQ 530 TU 542 EX 512

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gdale6
Moderator Emeritus

Re: FICO Score test effects


@slund5499 wrote:

Removed as AU on spouse Capital One QS ($2,000 CL with $1600 balance) and will see how long it takes to update to CRA. I am performing this test to see what affect this has on FICO scoring. Current fico are 666, 644 and 669. Utilization currently 33%.

 

I anticipate that Utilization will drop to 21%. But the 5 year history with perfect payments may hurt AAofA.

 

Will report once changes have een reported. If I do not like the ROI for this action, I can always be added back on as AU.


AAoA isnt going to be affected unless you asked for total removal of the account. AUs typically update to 0 balance, the CL is removed from your overall available CLs and a notation of relationship terminated is added.

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slund5499
Established Contributor

Re: FICO Score test effects

Will the history still report or will that get wiped with the balance and CL?

In the garden since 02/1/23. Newest Account AU Discover It 10K
02/23 Scores; EQ 608 TU 642 EX 575 CCU: 20%, Inq. 2, 1, 2 Collections $39K
Lending Club: newest account 2/3/23. Old Fico 1/17 EQ 530 TU 542 EX 512

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gdale6
Moderator Emeritus

Re: FICO Score test effects


@slund5499 wrote:

Will the history still report or will that get wiped with the balance and CL?


History is retained, the CL still shows its just not incl in utilization

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slund5499
Established Contributor

Re: FICO Score test effects

The the balance and Cl will not be included in utilization? If so, then my utilization should drop and score should go up a few points.

In the garden since 02/1/23. Newest Account AU Discover It 10K
02/23 Scores; EQ 608 TU 642 EX 575 CCU: 20%, Inq. 2, 1, 2 Collections $39K
Lending Club: newest account 2/3/23. Old Fico 1/17 EQ 530 TU 542 EX 512

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racer-x
Valued Contributor

Re: FICO Score test effects


@slund5499 wrote:

The the balance and Cl will not be included in utilization? If so, then my utilization should drop and score should go up a few points.


I would not hold my breath in expecting to see a score increase.  The best scenario would have been to keep the AU open and pay the balance down to sub 30% util or PIF entirely.

 

If the AU utilization on overall balances go from 80% to 30%, then a few points should be picked up.  But if utiliz goes from 30 to 20, or even 70 to 30, I wouldnt expect much.

 

But lately, who the hell knows.  You may lose points because you eat steak med rare, instead of med.

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NRB525
Super Contributor

Re: FICO Score test effects


@slund5499 wrote:

Removed as AU on spouse Capital One QS ($2,000 CL with $1600 balance) and will see how long it takes to update to CRA. I am performing this test to see what affect this has on FICO scoring. Current fico are 666, 644 and 669. Utilization currently 33%.

 

I anticipate that Utilization will drop to 21%. But the 5 year history with perfect payments may hurt AAofA.

 

Will report once changes have een reported. If I do not like the ROI for this action, I can always be added back on as AU.


Your score increased from July 2014 to February 2015 because of what that changed in your file? You were added as AU on your spouse's card?

What month were you added as AU?

What was the driver of that ~70 point increase in scores in the last 8 months?

High Bal Jan 2009 $116k on $146k limits 80% Util.
Oct 2014 $46k on $127k 36% util EQ 722 TU 727 EX 727
April 2018 $18k on $344k 5% util EQ 806 TU 810 EX 812
Jan 2019 $7.6k on $360k EQ 832 TU 839 EX 831
March 2021 $33k on $312k EQ 796 TU 798 EX 801
May 2021 Paid all Installments and Mortgages, one new Mortgage EQ 761 TY 774 EX 777
April 2022 EQ=811 TU=807 EX=805 - TU VS 3.0 765
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slund5499
Established Contributor

Re: FICO Score test effects

Not true on the 70 point driver. I have been on both of my spouse's 5 year old Cap One as an AU since she opened them.

 

 

In the garden since 02/1/23. Newest Account AU Discover It 10K
02/23 Scores; EQ 608 TU 642 EX 575 CCU: 20%, Inq. 2, 1, 2 Collections $39K
Lending Club: newest account 2/3/23. Old Fico 1/17 EQ 530 TU 542 EX 512

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slund5499
Established Contributor

Re: FICO Score test effects

70 Point driver....contributors:

 

CLI:

 

Capital One #1 AU from $500 to $2000 (June 2014)

Barclay CLI from $500 to $1000 (Aug 2014)

 

Capital One #1 AU from $2000 to $2500 (December 2014)

Capital One #2 AU from $500 to $2000 (December 2014)

 

New Accounts

 

November 2014:

 

Victoria Secret $350

Overstock $250

Abercrombie $250

Buckle $350

Installment loan (12 month) $2000

First Premier $300

 

December 2014:

 

Express $300

New York & Co. $350

Macy's $800

 

 

January 2015:

 

Walmart $700

 

February 2015

 

Amex Delta Skymiles $1000

Bank America Secured $500

Previous US Bank Secured graduated $300

Previous Wells Fargo Secured graduated $300

 

Overall utilization fell from $72% to 33%

Total Available Credit increased from $1600 to $14850

 

Other factors:

 

FP Charge off account PIF

Collection account removed from CR

2 Unpaid Tax lien still remains on TU (3rd from TU and all 3 from EQ and EX removed (unpaid).

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

In the garden since 02/1/23. Newest Account AU Discover It 10K
02/23 Scores; EQ 608 TU 642 EX 575 CCU: 20%, Inq. 2, 1, 2 Collections $39K
Lending Club: newest account 2/3/23. Old Fico 1/17 EQ 530 TU 542 EX 512

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NRB525
Super Contributor

Re: FICO Score test effects

Ok, that is critical additional information.

 

Your opening post could be significantly clarified with this information... Scores are a journey and removing an AU link is only one step of many you've taken in the last year. Any attempt to extrapolate your particular result in the next few weeks needs a heavy qualifier:

YMMV

 

Good luck, and good job on cleaning up your file!

High Bal Jan 2009 $116k on $146k limits 80% Util.
Oct 2014 $46k on $127k 36% util EQ 722 TU 727 EX 727
April 2018 $18k on $344k 5% util EQ 806 TU 810 EX 812
Jan 2019 $7.6k on $360k EQ 832 TU 839 EX 831
March 2021 $33k on $312k EQ 796 TU 798 EX 801
May 2021 Paid all Installments and Mortgages, one new Mortgage EQ 761 TY 774 EX 777
April 2022 EQ=811 TU=807 EX=805 - TU VS 3.0 765
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