10-05-2012 12:35 PM
First, the two 60 day negatives are what is lowering your score. They lower it much more and much longer than a single 30 day negative. Having two negatives puts you in a particular category. On top of that recent v non-recent use of revolving credit shifted things. FICO scoring is statistical and not absolute. FICO has no memory of prior FICOs or what category resulted in those scores.
FICO scores also produce a list of factors, in order of impact but they don't ascribe weight to them other than that they are in order. Since the two negatives are, based on what I've seen from others and experienced myself, the dominant score killers, the remaining items in the "what's hurting your score" list are likely contributing a rather small portion to your score. Possibly only one or two points. It's just that scores are reported with a list of items, in sequence, that negatively impact your credit no matter how minimally.
Once they are gone your score would likely be over 780. That's what happened to me. I was stuck around 710-720 then it popped to 780 when the last severe neg dropped.
And the negative reasons re-shuffled. Prior to that I also had a "short history" as a negative while of course the first negative, was the baddie. My interpretation is that a longer credit history was the only thing that would have helped the score so long as it was impacted by the negs.
10-05-2012 01:39 PM - edited 10-05-2012 01:40 PM
I think you have gotten some very good information here. We, as consumers, can only understand and apply so much about FICO scoring. Stop trying to "apply logic" to a complex set of mathematical algorithms which the consumer is not privy to, and never will be. Applying magical thinking would be just as fruitful. Very frustrating!
10-05-2012 02:30 PM
What I I learned: the credit card account with the comment in place caused the scoring to egnore the account completely, as though it was not there.
Once the comment went away, scoring "saw" an account with a $13,000.00 credit limit and zero balance. This credit was now in Fico's scoring equason and bumped me up 12 points.
I have a difficult time with a non human machine telling me on the one hand that I have great credit history and rates it as a positive factor, then 35 days later, without impunity changes it's mind and downgrades me and penalzes me on paper as a negative. Yes, some mathematical alogrithim gone wild!
10-05-2012 02:50 PM
fico64 wrote:
I have a difficult time with a non human machine telling me on the one hand that I have great credit history and rates it as a positive factor, then 35 days later, without impunity changes it's mind and downgrades me and penalzes me on paper as a negative. Yes, some mathematical alogrithim gone wild!
Does your negative factor look something like the image below? It's a couple of years old; a new card had reported, but my oldest card and AAoA in whole years had not changed.

10-05-2012 03:34 PM - edited 10-05-2012 03:38 PM
Exactly. First report, 35 days ago said 25 years, 3 months on top and 10 years on bottom. Postive.
Yesterday's report, said 25 years, 5 months on top and 11 years on the bottom. Negative.
In both cases, newest account is 3 years, 3 months old.

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