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Score Increase AFTER inqs! WHAT?

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Bluedog23
Regular Contributor

Score Increase AFTER inqs! WHAT?

Been reading thread about how temperamental new EQ scoring model can be. Most have been seeing  strange drops. I however saw an 8 pt increase on 7/10 after a DCU membership pull-- score goes from 762 to 770. No other activity. Score watch alerts me of the inq and of the increase.. Then DCU pulls a second time ( as they strangely do) on 7/11 for auto loan app. Get the alert from SW but no drop in score. Stays at 770.  I'm not complaining, just saying ---I don't get it. I was expecting a drop but not an increase. Maybe it'll shoot up again when the car loan reports! 

EX 805 FICO, EQ Fico 762; TU. 768Discover)
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mongstradamus
Super Contributor

Re: Score Increase AFTER inqs! WHAT?


@Bluedog23 wrote:

Been reading thread about how temperamental new EQ scoring model can be. Most have been seeing  strange drops. I however saw an 8 pt increase on 7/10 after a DCU membership pull-- score goes from 762 to 770. No other activity. Score watch alerts me of the inq and of the increase.. Then DCU pulls a second time ( as they strangely do) on 7/11 for auto loan app. Get the alert from SW but no drop in score. Stays at 770.  I'm not complaining, just saying ---I don't get it. I was expecting a drop but not an increase. Maybe it'll shoot up again when the car loan reports! 


I don't know if inq don't report till following month or what but had similar cirumstance when i apped for my CSP my score went up an few ticks. 



EX Fico 804 11/16/16 Fako 800 Credit.com 11/16/16
EQ SW bank enhanced 11/16/16 839 CK fako 822 11/16/16
TU Fico discover 10/19/16 814 Fako 819 Creditkarma 11/16/16
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Revelate
Moderator Emeritus

Re: Score Increase AFTER inqs! WHAT?

Unless you're incredibly good at isolating changes on a credit report (read: better than I and I'm a FICO geek), it's nearly impossible to state what every change in one's score can be attributed to.

 

An inquiry is never a positive.  Never to everyone's testing and anecdotal knowledge.  It can be zero (and non-trivially often is) penalty, but it is never positive.

 

That said, there can be positive changes which offset it, vis a vis adding your first installment loan will typically be a straight positive from the mix of credit calculation offsetting the inquiry / possible AAOA change.  In other events a tradeline aging, or AAOA changing, or derogs coming off don't get tracked by SW at all, and as such positive swings are much harder to diagnose.

 




        
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EW800
Valued Contributor

Re: Score Increase AFTER inqs! WHAT?


@Revelate wrote:

and I'm a FICO geek), 

 


 

I love it!   Smiley Happy

Year 2012: All Scores in the 520 range, during a foreclosure, CC Settlement and high UTIL. Very ugly days...
April 2024: EX8: 839; EQ8: 845; TU8: 842 -- Middle Mortgage Score: 822
In My Wallet: Discover $73.7K; Cap1 Venture $51.7K; Amex ED $38K; Amex Optima $2.5K; Amex Delta Gold $18K; Citi Costco $24.5K; Cap1 Plat $8.4K; Barclay $7K; Chase Amazon $6K; BoA Plat $21.6K; Citi TY Pref $22K; US Bank $4K; Dell $5K; Care Credit $6.5K. Total Revolving CL: $300K+
My UTIL: Less than 1% - Only allow about $20 a month to report, on one account. .
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burghpa
Regular Contributor

Re: Score Increase AFTER inqs! WHAT?

There are so many variables in FICO scoring i guess.   I keep balance on my barclay and all other cards report zeo, when the balance went up by $10 or so this month, the score jumped by 3 points to 722, then  Discover Inquiry showed up, I lost 2 points as expected. 

 

As 'Revelate' said,  what is happening is that there is no alert when some other variables change, so we are unware of that, eg: fall of any negatives never results in alert, nor changes in AAoA etc.

2013 Feb EQ: 550 | 2017 Feb EQ: 722

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