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Cheryla18
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Score increase with Balance increase??

So i know i am over the 30% UTL so i'm curious how a balance increase would cause a score increase? I thought it was suppose to be the other way around.

 

Cheryl

Current as of 3/21/18 EQ 609 TU 619 EX 628
Discharge 7/2016 Ch 7 BK
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Anonymous
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Re: Score increase with Balance increase??

I balance increase will NEVER result in a score increase, unless the balance increase was from $0 to number greater than zero (say $5 or $10). 

 

If your score increased, it was for a reason other than your balance(s) increasing.

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Cheryla18
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Re: Score increase with Balance increase??


@Anonymous wrote:

I balance increase will NEVER result in a score increase, unless the balance increase was from $0 to number greater than zero (say $5 or $10). 

 

If your score increased, it was for a reason other than your balance(s) increasing.


That's what i understood it to always be, However MyFico has given me 2 alerts that said your balance increased and i had a 16 point jump

Current as of 3/21/18 EQ 609 TU 619 EX 628
Discharge 7/2016 Ch 7 BK
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Anonymous
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Re: Score increase with Balance increase??


@Cheryla18 wrote:



That's what i understood it to always be, However MyFico has given me 2 alerts that said your balance increased and i had a 16 point jump


It's important to recognize that alerts more often than not have nothing to do with changes to your score.  The alert is just letting you know about a change and you are being provided with a new score at that time, but it doesn't mean that the score change is related to the alert.  I know this can be confusing and it should probably be disclosed by myFIco as MANY people are mislead by this.

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Cheryla18
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Re: Score increase with Balance increase??


@Anonymous wrote:

@Cheryla18 wrote:



That's what i understood it to always be, However MyFico has given me 2 alerts that said your balance increased and i had a 16 point jump


It's important to recognize that alerts more often than not have nothing to do with changes to your score.  The alert is just letting you know about a change and you are being provided with a new score at that time, but it doesn't mean that the score change is related to the alert.  I know this can be confusing and it should probably be disclosed by myFIco as MANY people are mislead by this.


Very True. This crossed my mind as well. Thanks for your help

Current as of 3/21/18 EQ 609 TU 619 EX 628
Discharge 7/2016 Ch 7 BK
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NRB525
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Re: Score increase with Balance increase??


@Cheryla18 wrote:

@Anonymous wrote:

@Cheryla18 wrote:



That's what i understood it to always be, However MyFico has given me 2 alerts that said your balance increased and i had a 16 point jump


It's important to recognize that alerts more often than not have nothing to do with changes to your score.  The alert is just letting you know about a change and you are being provided with a new score at that time, but it doesn't mean that the score change is related to the alert.  I know this can be confusing and it should probably be disclosed by myFIco as MANY people are mislead by this.


Very True. This crossed my mind as well. Thanks for your help


Congrats on the score increase.

 

Is the BK the only baddie on your file? What is the age of any baddies?

 

With baddies, the general rules of thumb in credit scoring are suspended. You could have aged into some slightly-less-dirty bucket, and that gave you a score boost. The utilization metrics are less important, likely less important in this latest short term than whatever else was going on with the age of the file.

High Bal Jan 2009 $116k on $146k limits 80% Util.
Oct 2014 $46k on $127k 36% util EQ 722 TU 727 EX 727
April 2018 $18k on $344k 5% util EQ 806 TU 810 EX 812
Jan 2019 $7.6k on $360k EQ 832 TU 839 EX 831
March 2021 $33k on $312k EQ 796 TU 798 EX 801
May 2021 Paid all Installments and Mortgages, one new Mortgage EQ 761 TY 774 EX 777
April 2022 EQ=811 TU=807 EX=805 - TU VS 3.0 765
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Anonymous
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Re: Score increase with Balance increase??

Not true had this happen to me last month on discover card. Went from 80 to 252 dollars and my score increased by 8 points
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DollyLama
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Re: Score increase with Balance increase??

Things I would look for on this particular case of an increase, average age of accounts has crossed a new whole year threshold, number of cards reporting a balance has decreased, inquiry(es) aged off, baddies aging off, credit line increases that further decreased overall utilization. Loan installment hitting a new threshold on utilization balance. 

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NRB525
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Re: Score increase with Balance increase??


@Anonymous wrote:
Not true had this happen to me last month on discover card. Went from 80 to 252 dollars and my score increased by 8 points

What is not true?

High Bal Jan 2009 $116k on $146k limits 80% Util.
Oct 2014 $46k on $127k 36% util EQ 722 TU 727 EX 727
April 2018 $18k on $344k 5% util EQ 806 TU 810 EX 812
Jan 2019 $7.6k on $360k EQ 832 TU 839 EX 831
March 2021 $33k on $312k EQ 796 TU 798 EX 801
May 2021 Paid all Installments and Mortgages, one new Mortgage EQ 761 TY 774 EX 777
April 2022 EQ=811 TU=807 EX=805 - TU VS 3.0 765
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