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I paid both my capital one cards down ...my quicksilver I paid down 30 bucks ...the platinum card I paid down 220 dollars ...finally today I get an alert from experian  that took me from 609 to 607. **bleep** 

Then equifax  gave me NO SCORE CHANGE....WTFFFFF

GOING from high utilization on one card to under 50 percent and no points??? Wow

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Revelate
Moderator Emeritus

Re: credit utilization


@Anonymous wrote:

I paid both my capital one cards down ...my quicksilver I paid down 30 bucks ...the platinum card I paid down 220 dollars ...finally today I get an alert from experian  that took me from 609 to 607. **bleep** 

Then equifax  gave me NO SCORE CHANGE....WTFFFFF

GOING from high utilization on one card to under 50 percent and no points??? Wow


Define high utilization in this case?  I went from $4 to 73% on a $4400 tradeline and then back and score didn't budge.  Until you get into the 90%+ bracket not sure there is much of an individual tradeline penalty from my data but I've never tested it well enough honestly.  Post mortgage goal for me with a silly $250 secured card for funsies.




        
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NRB525
Super Contributor

Re: credit utilization

Tracking scores can be frustrating.

Your score indicates some negatives in your file. Which type of negative, and how recent?

What are your credit cards and limits? Ages of cards?

High Bal Jan 2009 $116k on $146k limits 80% Util.
Oct 2014 $46k on $127k 36% util EQ 722 TU 727 EX 727
April 2018 $18k on $344k 5% util EQ 806 TU 810 EX 812
Jan 2019 $7.6k on $360k EQ 832 TU 839 EX 831
March 2021 $33k on $312k EQ 796 TU 798 EX 801
May 2021 Paid all Installments and Mortgages, one new Mortgage EQ 761 TY 774 EX 777
April 2022 EQ=811 TU=807 EX=805 - TU VS 3.0 765
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Thomas_Thumb
Senior Contributor

Re: credit utilization


@Revelate wrote:

@Anonymous wrote:

I paid both my capital one cards down ...my quicksilver I paid down 30 bucks ...the platinum card I paid down 220 dollars ...finally today I get an alert from experian  that took me from 609 to 607. **bleep** 

Then equifax  gave me NO SCORE CHANGE....WTFFFFF

GOING from high utilization on one card to under 50 percent and no points??? Wow


Define high utilization in this case?  I went from $4 to 73% on a $4400 tradeline and then back and score didn't budge.  Until you get into the 90%+ bracket not sure there is much of an individual tradeline penalty from my data but I've never tested it well enough honestly.  Post mortgage goal for me with a silly $250 secured card for funsies.


MrFico84, I also have some  historical data indicating utilization on a single card has little/no impact on score at least up to 80%. I allowed a CC to report an 50%, 2% and then 80% utilization with no change on Fico 8 score - Note: I kept aggregate utilization between 1% and 5% range during that time. The primary utilization factor on score is the aggregate %. 

 

Can you share some info on what  your aggregate U% is now and what it was before the above pay downs?

Fico 9: .......EQ 850 TU 850 EX 850
Fico 8: .......EQ 850 TU 850 EX 850
Fico 4 .....:. EQ 809 TU 823 EX 830 EX Fico 98: 842
Fico 8 BC:. EQ 892 TU 900 EX 900
Fico 8 AU:. EQ 887 TU 897 EX 899
Fico 4 BC:. EQ 826 TU 858, EX Fico 98 BC: 870
Fico 4 AU:. EQ 831 TU 872, EX Fico 98 AU: 861
VS 3.0:...... EQ 835 TU 835 EX 835
CBIS: ........EQ LN Auto 940 EQ LN Home 870 TU Auto 902 TU Home 950
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Anonymous
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Re: credit utilization

Overall was about 87 pct  the one I paid 220 bucks on was 100 Oct utilization 

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Thomas_Thumb
Senior Contributor

Re: credit utilization

Thanks for the info.

 

An aggregate utilization above 80% will trump any potential score boost associated with reducing utilization on a per card basis. I would suggest focusing on per card pay downs from a strictly financial perspective with score improvement being an after thought. Ultimately, aggregate utilization will be the driver for a score boost. Potential thresholds (from my data mining) for aggregate utilization that could shift score are 80% 50%, 35%, 20% and 10%. The 10% is well documented and I have seen 35% mentioned from multiple sources. The other percentages are more speculative in nature but worth noting.

 

Any updates you can provide on step change score increases along with associated aggregate utilization % will be appreciated.

 

Good luck with your ongoing pay down strategy

Fico 9: .......EQ 850 TU 850 EX 850
Fico 8: .......EQ 850 TU 850 EX 850
Fico 4 .....:. EQ 809 TU 823 EX 830 EX Fico 98: 842
Fico 8 BC:. EQ 892 TU 900 EX 900
Fico 8 AU:. EQ 887 TU 897 EX 899
Fico 4 BC:. EQ 826 TU 858, EX Fico 98 BC: 870
Fico 4 AU:. EQ 831 TU 872, EX Fico 98 AU: 861
VS 3.0:...... EQ 835 TU 835 EX 835
CBIS: ........EQ LN Auto 940 EQ LN Home 870 TU Auto 902 TU Home 950
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