Success Stories and Encouragem ent
07-23-2007 08:15 AM
To set things up, I have had a contentious relationship with credit for the last few years, barely holding onto some subprime credit cards before their unmentionable fees overwhelmed me and led to the cards' closure. I never really relied much on credit cards because I could never qualify for more than $700 on one, although I did get a $1500 Best Buy card a few years ago, which was closed/charged off after I couldn't keep up with payments. I used to have a Dillards, Marshall Fields, and Sears card, but they all got closed due to delinquent pay patterns as well. These were all reporting well, as long as I made minimum payments each month, but I had too many, and the many minimums maxed me out, and I was never making any progress on the principal. Now the only card I have of any kind of revolving credit is my Target card.
I also have moved four times in five years for employment opportunities, and each one dried up almost as soon as I arrived, usually due to downsizing. This constant moving placed my already tenuous financial status into a constant state of disrepair. It also meant that I was leaving a trail of unpaid utility bills in my wake, which eventually got sold to collection agencies. I even had a "pay to stay" rental situation which shows up as an eviction/public judgment from 2003 on my credit reports.
Last summer (like a lot of people), I found myself having to choose between gas and other payments. Unfortunately, gas prices meant I delayed making my car payments. I started to get behind, and once I did, I never recovered. I tried to trade-in my vehicle for another one, but that just resulted in tons of hard pull inquiries that benefited me nothing. Then I ended up refinancing the car, but even the refinanced amount was too high, with gas prices still in the upper $2s, lower $3s, coupled with the fact that I was commuting 60-70 miles a day, 6 days a week, in an SUV that got 21 mpg tops on the highway (oy). Then I had to move to a new apartment (mine was being turned into condos, so there were all the moving expenses and utility deposits due). So nothing was really working in my favor at the moment.
Ultimately, I had gotten myself into a state of mind a couple of years ago in which I just didn't care about my credit, plain and simple. I figured that my situation was so bad, how could it possibly get any worse? That cavalier attitude led me to ignore important deadlines and settlement offers that would have kept things off of my credit report. It also relegated me to nights where the phone wouldn’t stop ringing for hours as creditors and collectors called over and over again. I resigned myself to always having bad credit and never owning a home, which made me bolder (and somewhat stupider) in my own taunts of the creditors that were calling me. I now know that some of this was due to anxiety and depression, but some was just plain stubbornness.
Then in March, my 2003 Ford Escape was repo'd, and I all of a sudden discovered just how important good credit was, when I couldn't even get into a used car for less than $3000-5000 down, and those were subprime loans in which I was paying the bank $2000-3000 to approve the loan, BEFORE the cost of the car. This became the tipping/turning point for me, and it opened my eyes to the seriousness of my situation.
I began monitoring my credit at that point, and was shocked as what I found. I started out around 457 in late March, and after some more attempts to get into a car loan in April, it dropped to the aforementioned 420. I got my FICO Score through the 30-day free trial of ScoreWatch, and then did the same for TrueCredit. I have since subscribed to both of these services, but it was invaluable to have a parallel comparison of all 3 credit report accounts (TrueCredit), as well as the comparison of a FICO score and a FAKO score. As part of ScoreWatch, I became addicted to the FICO Forum, and learned most of what helped me there.
I had let several of my student loans go without applying for deferrals, so they were reporting past due, but thank God not in default yet. There were several erroneous accounts that were not mine, as well as accounts that I had paid, but were showing as still open and unpaid. Far too many collection accounts with unpaid balances.
I called Target and made a payment arrangement with them, just to keep the card open and active, so that it could help me later on if I needed it to, as my sole source of revolving credit and good credit-building power.
The first thing I did was comb through the free credit reports I received (annualcreditreport.com), and mark any accounts I didn’t recognize as mine. Then I found any erroneous late pay notations. I disputed these sets of items right away, and several of these errors disappeared very quickly. Step one should always be getting rid of obvious errors – personal information, addresses you don’t recognize, accounts that don’t belong to you, duplicate reporting, etc.
But I think the most important thing I did to monitor my success was creating an Excel spreadsheet of all of the derogatory items on my credit reports. I had columns for:
• The name of the creditor
• The name of the original creditor (if the account on the report was a collection agency)
• The amount of the debt (even if it was zero – paid off/charge off)
• Date reported
• Expected date it would drop off my credit report (this takes some math and research at times)
• Which credit reporting agencies reported the debt (this was a small detail, but became very important as time went on)
I also made a similar chart that included all of this info for accounts that I had received correspondence about from collection agencies or creditors that had not yet appeared on any credit reports yet – this was to become my reporting prevention list.
These charts allowed me to track what I owed (totally and individually), and monitor when things would start to drop off (and how many). Ultimately, it was a hard look at the reality of my situation. But when I realized that, apart from the student loans – which were now in deferral or the process of being deferred, I only owed $12000 max, it made me realize that this was too low a number to consider bankruptcy.
I made a plan to set aside $100 per week in a savings account to use for credit repair – this amount has taken a bit of a beating because of a settlement with Ford I arranged, but that single settlement (if I paid them 50% of my deficiency amount remaining after the sale of the repo’d vehicle, they would consider it paid in full and remove the repo comments from my credit reports) has actually reduced my total bad credit debt to less than $5000 now! The $100 a week allows me to look at my chart and see what accounts might be paid off completely with $100-300; those accounts I attempt to Pay for Delete – See Tuscani’s sample Pay For Delete (PFD) and Goodwill (GW) letters; they will help you through hell and high water. I did the math, and if I continued my credit repair savings account, it would allow me to pay off between $2000-4000 a year, which meant that after the Ford settlement, I could get all of my bad credit accounts paid to zero (and work out PFD and/or GW plans) within a year and a half. Some sacrifices would have to be made, yes. And the collection agencies don’t like hearing me say this, but I do and I stick with it, “I have drafted a plan to get out of debt by the fall of 2008, and your account is included in that plan, but you’re not the account I am working on at the moment, so you will have to be patient, but you will get your money.”
Part of my plan also involved joining the credit union at my job. Many benefits, not the least of which was automatic overdraft protection for my checking account up to $500. USE WISELY!
I have also created an Excel spreadsheet and chart function that allows me to enter my daily TrueCredit scores as well as my FICO score updates, and it may not seem to be much of an increase daily, but it does continue to go up.
This is more detailed than it should be, and probably not as detailed as it could be, but this has been my journey so far, and hopefully it will be enough of a shock and build enough good fiscal habits that I can keep moving steadily towards fiscal solvency.
Hope this helps.
Re: Success Stories and Encouragem ent
07-23-2007 09:07 AM
I never really bothered about my credit, I knew I was paying bills on time and had only a store card and a gas card. I refinanced my house a couple of years ago and got a very good rate (long history with the company, cut length of mortgage dramatically, got a very low rate). I was a little surprised at how low my credit score was when I did it, so I thought I should get a credit card to have a real CC on my report, and I was turned down for one. This was a little bit of a wake up call, so I went and got a CC from my local Credit Union, and kept paying bills on time. Then last December it seemed as though I might move house, talked to my mortgage company and got pre-approved for a new mortgage and was horrified to find out that after 5 years of perfect payments I still had low credit scores.
I then started doing some of the right things (more by guesswork than good judgment) and started disputing that which was incorrect. Then this board was formed, and suddenly a wealth of information became available to me. I disputed more, discovered the importance of utilization (it was clobbering me despite the fact I PIFfed all the time), discovered that I hated Cingular, found out what cards I could get because I knew what scores they required and which CRs they pulled, and straightened things out
Results – 4 years of perfect payment, EQ FICO goes up about 50 points.
This board opens, and since then – EQ FICO goes up 94 points
December 06 – TU FICO 681
July 07 – TU FICO 803
EX hates me
My version of the secrets of high scores.
1 – fiscal responsibility. If you spend more than you earn you will never get there
2 – learn the rules. They are not always obvious (e.g., high util and PIF is bad, low util and carrying a balance better). Play the game, and if you follow (1) above, it is a game.
3 – watch those inqs, and never get a new cell phone ![]()
4 – TIME is your friend
And I've found the trick is not to stop the sliding
But to find a graceful way of staying slid
Re: Success Stories and Encouragem ent
07-23-2007 09:10 AM
MidnightVoice wrote:Yes DearThis board opens, and since then – EQ FICO goes up 94 points
December 06 – TU FICO 681
July 07 – TU FICO 803
EX hates me
My version of the secrets of high scores.
1 – fiscal responsibility. If you spend more than you earn you will never get there
2 – learn the rules. They are not always obvious (e.g., high util and PIF is bad, low util and carrying a balance better). Play the game, and if you follow (1) above, it is a game.
3 – watch those inqs, and never get a new cell phone
4 – TIME is your friend
Re: Success Stories and Encouragem ent
07-23-2007 09:34 AM
trinigal wrote:I know this board is supposed to be about encouragement but 803??!!! I'm officially jealous!
And I've found the trick is not to stop the sliding
But to find a graceful way of staying slid
Re: Success Stories and Encouragem ent
07-23-2007 09:42 AM
MidnightVoice wrote:
trinigal wrote:I know this board is supposed to be about encouragement but 803??!!! I'm officially jealous!I blame this place for it. Without this place I have no idea what my scores would be
Re: Success Stories and Encouragem ent
09-10-2007 12:49 PM
Tuscani wrote:BUMP!
And I've found the trick is not to stop the sliding
But to find a graceful way of staying slid
Re: Success Stories and Encouragem ent
09-11-2007 10:19 PM
Re: Success Stories and Encouragem ent
09-12-2007 03:55 AM
http://www.daveramsey.com (best financial adviser I ever heard!)
Love never fails......hope is always there.
TU: 569 EXP: 566 EQU: 564
Goal 750
Re: Success Stories and Encouragem ent
09-18-2007 11:56 AM
American Epress Plutinum Charge Card
American Express Blue Cash $10,000.00
Bank Of America Visa Signature $18,000.00
Citi Devident MC - Approved, Don't know the limit yet
*Working on a few others and got rid of my Started capital one.
1. Be patient, very patient and be nice
2. Don't be afraid of trying a GW Letters or other suggested methods here.
3. Read anything that "Tuscani","Brammy" and a few others post. Even if its bad hahaha. just read it Because it will probably increse your score just from doing so.
4. Join "The Sleigh Center" if you can't stop applying. I never needed it, but I love being there.
9/6/2007 671
8/26/2007 653
7/12/2007 658
6/14/2007 665
6/7/2007 680
4/29/2007 673
4/25/2007 672
4/18/2007 671
4/17/2007 687
3/30/2007 681
3/12/2007 671
3/4/2007 658
2/15/2007 638
2/9/2007 661
2/4/2007 664
1/25/2007 672
1/12/2007 675
1/7/2007 672
1/2/2007 669
9/9/2006 644
7/23/2006 595
