topic Approved Apple Barclays Card 2500 Credit Line !! ?? in Credit Card Approvals

Approved Apple Barclays Card 2500 Credit Line !! ??

cf2701 — Sat, 21 May 2011 21:19:52 GMT

New here.... but have a question.

I was looking to purchase a new Macbook Air and applied for the Apple Barclays card. I have a score of 614 and lots of bad things on my credit report. (I don't know all the lengo you all use around here, lol) I have collections, many accounts written off, ect..

But to my surprise, I was approved for $2500 credit line! How is that even possible? My income is abot 50,000 and I have held the same job for almost 5 years. I wouldn't think that would help THAT much would it? I am very happy, just very surprised!

Anyone else has this experience?

Re: Approved Apple Barclays Card 2500 Credit Line !! ??

drsmith — Sat, 21 May 2011 21:49:45 GMT

I got denied for the apple financing in January 2010. I didn't start looking at my fico reports until fall 2010 but In 9/2010 I had a 703 with no baddies. Since then I've added a BoA Amex, USAA World Mastercard, and a Delta Gold Amex, all with nothing less than a 5k CL and all but the BoA were instant approvals. Even that card took about a 30 second recon to be approved.

I don't remember what Barclarys cited in their decline message, but I think it may have been lack of open credit lines. I've fixed that since then

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Anonymous — Sun, 22 May 2011 12:40:16 GMT

I have a 784 TU FICO, perfectly clean report and they just approved me with a CL of 2000 on the Apple CC so who knows???????

Whats your highest limit CC other than the Barclays?

But Congratulations!!!!!!!!

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cf2701 — Sun, 22 May 2011 21:23:07 GMT

That is just the thing, it was the ONLY credit card I had gotten approved for! Just out of the blue, BAM they approved me. I have since gotten approved for a Cap One, but only for a $500 CL. I'm ok with two cards, because my credit is VERY bad and I have no idea how I even got those?

I am very happy and feel very lucky Barclays gave me a chance. I actually wonder if somehow it was a glitch? But I am going to take my grace and be responsible to improve my credit, thats for sure!

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Anonymous — Sun, 22 May 2011 21:59:10 GMT

Regardless of whether it's a glitch or not, congrats.

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Anonymous — Sun, 22 May 2011 22:18:52 GMT

Wow that's pretty awesome. Congrats. Definitely time to start being responsible. Its funny because they denied my wife last night, but Cap1 said ok. Probably bc of our BK.

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Anonymous — Sun, 22 May 2011 23:07:42 GMT

@Anonymous wrote:
Regardless of whether it's a glitch or not, congrats.

I 100% agree, that is awesome for you, the APR is high (for me I dont care, I PIF all cards every month except one with the lowest APR for 2-8% util purposes) but this can be a great rebuilder card for you, use it, PIF every month and use your Cap1 (which I assume is 0 APR for 6 or 12 months?) to keep a small balance on.

You say you now have two CC's

1. Barclays 2500CL

2. Cap1 500CL

@Anonymous's 3000 total revolving credit, I would let at least $10-15 report every month on your credit reports, that should report you @1 or 2% util (I know FICO rounds up util) either 1 or 2% util is better than showing 0% util, using this method is really only important if

1. You want to maximize your scores monthly

2. If you want to app for another CC or Loan etc.....

3. If you have APR's

4. To keep you out of debt

Other than that, if you're not worried about util and maxing your scores monthly (and the other reasons I listed above) keeping a <9% util is not crucial, just a best case scenario overall.

Here's an example of what you would want to do if you wanted to keep yourself under 9%......

Use both cards as much as you can afford to pay every month, PIF the Barclays two or three days before the due date (online pymts are best) don't use it again until the statement posts so you can be positive it will report 0. (If you pay several times a month with Barclays they will put a 10 day hold on the pymt each time, so I recommend paying just once, just before the due date "I was told this by the Barclays Rep yesterday")

With the Cap1 CC use it as well and you can pay several times a month if you like, Cap1 does not hold the pymts, pay all but 10-15$ 2 or 3 days before the due date and don't use the card till the day after the due date, then pay the 10-15$ after the statement posts. This will show usage and a good pymt history as well as keep your scores the highest possible.

I would also look into sending some goodwill letters to every one of the negative listers on your credit reports. It takes a lot of persistence to bounce back from bad credit, some can achieve it faster than others, I'm proof of that, look at my siggy, 14 months I worked my butt off to go from a 583 up to 770's and above.

You may see an initial increase in your scores (if you had no revolving credit before these two cards) because your util was at 100% but now that you have tradelines with 3000 avail credit it may offset the cost of the inq's and then some, however, you may see a small drop in your scores, BUT, they will rebound very quickly if you utilize responsible credit behavior and follow the advice above.

I'm no expert by any means, but my situation was similar to yours a year ago, and this is how I proceeded with my rebuilding process (for the most part) I actually apped for four cards between the months of June and Dec, was approved for all of them (starter cards) and followed what I typed above to the tee, and also the last baddie just came off my report ( a CO from 2005, was a fraud acct, was never my CC) I disputed it 4 times or so and finally gave up last month and to my surprise last week it was gone from all three reports, raising my scores significantly.

However you choose to rebuild, I sincerely wish you all the best.

I also just wanted to apologize, I have learned soooo much in the last 3 1/2 months I've been a member here (and also the past 14 months) I sometimes think I am an expert (I'm NOT) and I really like to try and give good advice, I want to see others bounce back and sometimes I let my typing get away from me, so for that I'm sorry for this long post, and hopefully I have provided some good advice. My intentions are good.

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cf2701 — Mon, 23 May 2011 06:02:23 GMT

Thanks for all the information! I have learned a lot from reading your one post! As for the Barclays card, I have my new Macbook Air on it so I'm into about $1500 of my $2500 right now. I can't pay that off in full anytime soon. However, I plan on paying as much as I can and and using the card VERY minimal every month to pay what I put on it, plus some on the financing of the Macbook. The Cap One does have 0% for the first year. I plan on using it just to pay in full every month by less than $50 or so.

Does that sound like a good plan? I want to show usage and PRAY my score rises with time!

Also, what do you recommend to keep an eye on my scores? I am VERY new to all this, so all the help is appreciated much!

Thanks

Re: Approved Apple Barclays Card 2500 Credit Line !! ??

Anonymous — Mon, 23 May 2011 19:54:52 GMT

For some reason I can not quote you, I keep getting an error..........

As far as the Barclays CC, any purchase you make from Apple qualify's for 0% interest for 12 months $999 and up. If balances are not paid in full by the end of the applicable period, or if a late payment is made, interest will be charged from the purchase date at a 22.99% variable APR.

I would focus most on paying that CC down first, try not to make any other purchases with that CC till you have paid it off. (You have 12 months to do so without paying any interest) personally I would try to pay it as quickly as possible.

Now that you will have a balance on the Barclays card for a while, I would use the Cap1 however you like but pay that one in full every month, its always best to show a balance on just one CC. Your util will be a little high because of the 1500 on the Barclays card, it will actually be at 50% at first (you have 3000 total avail credit) but as long as you pay it monthly and make sure you pay in full any charges you make on the Cap1 by the due date, your util will keep dropping.

Have both CC's reported to the CRA's yet? I would pull a report from both EQ and TU now (from here at MyFico) and again in like 3 months to see if any changes in your score.

The lower your util, the more your scores will rise, don't miss any pymts and you should be on your way to building a healthy credit behavior. You may not see really great score rises with those baddies on your report (not as much as you would see if your report was clean) but you should see your scores rise as you use these CC's, and pay on time and work on getting your util down.

Heres a breakdown of "Whats in your Fico Score"

35% is payment history

30% is util (Amounts owed)

15% Length of Credit History

10% New Credit (New Accts, Inquiries)

10% Types of Credit Used (CC's, Store Cards, Installment Loans etc.....)

Hope this is helpful, keep us posted. Wishing you all the Best.

EDITED to space paragraphs, Lithium would not let me earlier.

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Anonymous — Mon, 23 May 2011 16:18:14 GMT

@Anonymous wrote:
As far as the Barclays CC, any purchase you make from Apple qualify's for 0% interest for 12 months $999 and up. If balances are not paid in full by the end of the applicable period, or if a late payment is made, interest will be charged from the purchase date at a 22.99% variable APR.

Excellent point, mustang, and one that's easy to overlook. OP - you may find that your minimum monthly payment with Barclays will not pay off your balance by the time the 0% runs out - and 22.99% retroactive to day one is a killer. I agree with Mustang - pay this baby off very aggressively so you're not hit with that retroactive high finance charge in 12 months.

Also, there will likely be some FICO score loss for high utilization on the Barclay card until the balance is lower - if my math's right the utilization is now at 60% which is high. Some folks are willing to forego movies or morning lattes or eating out (or whatever) for a short time in an effort to really pop utilization down.

Congrats on your new cards and your hard work! Best wishes on your good FICO building plans!

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Anonymous — Mon, 23 May 2011 20:07:53 GMT

@Anonymous wrote:
@Anonymous wrote:
As far as the Barclays CC, any purchase you make from Apple qualify's for 0% interest for 12 months $999 and up. If balances are not paid in full by the end of the applicable period, or if a late payment is made, interest will be charged from the purchase date at a 22.99% variable APR.

Excellent point, mustang, and one that's easy to overlook. OP - you may find that your minimum monthly payment with Barclays will not pay off your balance by the time the 0% runs out - and 22.99% retroactive to day one is a killer. I agree with Mustang - pay this baby off very aggressively so you're not hit with that retroactive high finance charge in 12 months.

Also, there will likely be some FICO score loss for high utilization on the Barclay card until the balance is lower - if my math's right the utilization is now at 60% which is high. Some folks are willing to forego movies or morning lattes or eating out (or whatever) for a short time in an effort to really pop utilization down.

Congrats on your new cards and your hard work! Best wishes on your good FICO building plans!

Thanks beamMEup, it's nice to know I've been able to learn a lot in the last few months here, and actually be able to give advice (hopefully good) and it feels good to be able to do so, I still have a TON to learn, but I'm doing my best to absorb everything I can, which leads me to this question......

If he has 3000 total revolving credit and has 1500 bal that would not be 50%? I only ask NOT because I doubt you or your math (God knows you know a LOT more about this than I do) but because I want to know where my calculations are wrong, so I do not make that mistake again.

Thank you again.

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MarineVietVet — Mon, 23 May 2011 20:15:43 GMT

@Anonymous wrote:

Thanks beamMEup, it's nice to know I've been able to learn a lot in the last few months here, and actually be able to give advice (hopefully good) and it feels good to be able to do so, I still have a TON to learn, but I'm doing my best to absorb everything I can, which leads me to this question......

If he has 3000 total revolving credit and has 1500 bal that would not be 50%? I only ask NOT because I doubt you or your math (God knows you know a LOT more about this than I do) but because I want to know where my calculations are wrong, so I do not make that mistake again.

Thank you again.

I believe beamMEup was just talking about the utilization on the Barclay's card (1,500/2,500) which makes the individual utilization 60%.

You are correct that the overall utilization would be 50% (1,500/3,000).

From a BK years ago to:
EX - 3/11 pulled by lender- 835, EQ - 2/11-816, TU - 2/11-782

"Some people spend an entire lifetime wondering if they've made a difference. The Marines don't have that problem".

Re: Approved Apple Barclays Card 2500 Credit Line !! ??

Anonymous — Mon, 23 May 2011 20:40:00 GMT

@MarineVietVet wrote:
@Anonymous wrote:

Thanks beamMEup, it's nice to know I've been able to learn a lot in the last few months here, and actually be able to give advice (hopefully good) and it feels good to be able to do so, I still have a TON to learn, but I'm doing my best to absorb everything I can, which leads me to this question......

If he has 3000 total revolving credit and has 1500 bal that would not be 50%? I only ask NOT because I doubt you or your math (God knows you know a LOT more about this than I do) but because I want to know where my calculations are wrong, so I do not make that mistake again.

Thank you again.
I believe beamMEup was just talking about the utilization on the Barclay's card (1,500/2,500) which makes the individual utilization 60%.

You are correct that the overall utilization would be 50% (1,500/3,000).

From a BK years ago to:
EX - 3/11 pulled by lender- 835, EQ - 2/11-816, TU - 2/11-782

"Some people spend an entire lifetime wondering if they've made a difference. The Marines don't have that problem".

Oh OK, I just wanted to make sure I was giving the correct information, I greatly appreciate your response.

I had thought that may have been what he was referring to, but I just wanted to make sure.

I do NOT want to be giving incorrect advice or answers.

Thank you again.

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MarineVietVet — Mon, 23 May 2011 20:58:48 GMT

@Anonymous wrote:

Oh OK, I just wanted to make sure I was giving the correct information, I greatly appreciate your response.

I had thought that may have been what he was referring to, but I just wanted to make sure.

I do NOT want to be giving incorrect advice or answers.

Thank you again.

Goodness. SHE is not going to like that!!! LOL

But I do that quite often. Assume I know the gender of someone and then find out ooooopppppssss!!!

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Anonymous — Mon, 23 May 2011 21:10:01 GMT

@MarineVietVet wrote:
@Anonymous wrote:

Oh OK, I just wanted to make sure I was giving the correct information, I greatly appreciate your response.

I had thought that may have been what he was referring to, but I just wanted to make sure.

I do NOT want to be giving incorrect advice or answers.

Thank you again.
Goodness. SHE is not going to like that!!! LOL

But I do that quite often. Assume I know the gender of someone and then find out ooooopppppssss!!!

From a BK years ago to:
EX - 3/11 pulled by lender- 835, EQ - 2/11-816, TU - 2/11-782

"Some people spend an entire lifetime wondering if they've made a difference. The Marines don't have that problem".

Oh crap, I swear I pressed the "S" for she I'm very sorry, I guess its just force of habit, beamMEup please forgive me

***runs and hides in the corner***

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Anonymous — Mon, 23 May 2011 22:43:25 GMT

You can run and hide, but I hope you can duck!

I've got a pretty good throwing arm for a gal!

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Anonymous — Tue, 24 May 2011 21:04:45 GMT

@Anonymous wrote:
You can run and hide, but I hope you can duck!

I've got a pretty good throwing arm for a gal!

I have been practicing ducking all day, so I think I'm ready!! LOL

Again I'm sorry about that, it will NOT happen again

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Anonymous — Tue, 24 May 2011 21:16:20 GMT

Well barclays ended my app spree today. I called the backdoor number. They want to see more credit. So once my cap1 and Firestone report for 3-6 months I should be good. I'm going to try to wait the full 6 months to get the best CL, but it's hard. They also want my BK to age more. It was discharged in August.

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shane82388 — Fri, 15 Jul 2011 17:59:18 GMT

which backdoor number did you call for Barclays? I see two numbers on the "Backdoor Numbers" thread for Barclays....

I just got approved last night for $1290 with a 612 TU and some fairly bad damage a little less than 2 years ago and i put my est. income at 27k....Do you think if I call I could get more to cover a Macbook Pro at around $2200?

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shane82388 — Sat, 16 Jul 2011 20:40:39 GMT

Well no responses so I just went for it and it worked out. I got my limit raised from $1290 to $2300. The guy was very nice and actually talked like a human being to you rather than a robot reading a script with a funny accent haha.

Basically what happened was I asked for the increase and said i needed it because the macbook pro i wanted was about $2112 out the door and it kind of defeats the purpose of getting this card if i cant buy the computer i need with it.He suggested $2300 actually and i said thats great.

He put me on hold and came back and asked me where i worked and how long ive been there. Then how much i estimate i make (27k). He asked if i had any other income. I said i do freelance video editing but its not like i have paystubs and stuff for that at the moment really and he just said "well how much do you think you make a month from it?" and I said "probably between $500 and $1000" but it varies...

Back on hold...

Comes back a while later and asks me about my credit report. I had a period where i had baddies, lates, overlimits, etc all, close to 2 years ago. He just asked about the card I had closed (which had the most recent and worst lates). Then asked me how I used my Capital One card and I said i honestly dont really use it that much because I just use cash/debit and the limit is too low so im scared of it reporting nearly maxed out after only a few purchases.

He said ok and went back on hold...

Comes back and said I dont see why I cant give you the limit so ill up it to $2300 to cover your new computer. VICTORY!

So basically there was no REAL grilling for information, background check, lie detector test, or faxing paystubs, old bills, etc. They just take your word for it, (Up to a certain point im assuming...) which is really nice.

Hope this info helps someone else who didnt get a high enough limit or thinks their score is a little iffy to apply.