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    <title>topic Re: Chase sapphire preffered? in Credit Card Applications</title>
    <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/Chase-sapphire-preffered/m-p/4474966#M109185</link>
    <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;@Anonymous wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;Credit Karma tells me "very good" approval odds but shows "fair" for the freedom card? I'm a little skeptical that this is some type of marketing gimmick and I'm almost sure I won't bet approved for the sapphire preffered. Any suggestions?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;CCT Scores FICO 8:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Experian - 663 w/ 10 Inq's (only 4 are CC's)&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;TransUnion - 622 w/ 3 Inq's (only 1 is CC)&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Equifax - 657 w/ 5 Inq's (only 1 is CC)&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Current credit cards:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;CapOne Platinum just recently upgrade to QS. One year old - no missed payments $4k limit.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Discover It - $750 limit - 3 years old no missed payments.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;What are some other good options for me if the Chase card isn't a good app? I feel like I should have another one or two.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Thanks&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;I hate to say but CreditKarma is paid advertising and if you would apply for CSP I would expect a denial ..sorry.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Have you tried the Chase pre-approvals?&amp;nbsp; If Freedom comes up as pre-approved then go ahead with&amp;nbsp; Freedom but if not then I would wait with Chase until you get your scores a bit higher (closer to 700)&amp;nbsp; If you do not travel and would like to use cash back then CSP would be a complete waste and not worth to pay the AF.&amp;nbsp; In the meantime try to work on SP CLIs with Cap1 and Discover to work towards 5K limit and getting your scores up.&amp;nbsp; You may consider Citi Double cash&amp;nbsp; or Fidelity Rewards Visa later on for general 2% cash back.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Sat, 27 Feb 2016 14:09:58 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>lg8302ch</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2016-02-27T14:09:58Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Chase sapphire preffered?</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/Chase-sapphire-preffered/m-p/4473851#M109086</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Credit Karma tells me "very good" approval odds but shows "fair" for the freedom card? I'm a little skeptical that this is some type of marketing gimmick and I'm almost sure I won't bet approved for the sapphire preffered. Any suggestions?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;CCT Scores FICO 8:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Experian - 663 w/ 10 Inq's (only 4 are CC's)&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;TransUnion - 622 w/ 3 Inq's (only 1 is CC)&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Equifax - 657 w/ 5 Inq's (only 1 is CC)&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Current credit cards:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;CapOne Platinum just recently upgrade to QS. One year old - no missed payments $4k limit.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Discover It - $750 limit - 3 years old no missed payments.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;What are some other good options for me if the Chase card isn't a good app? I feel like I should have another one or two.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Thanks&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2016 17:07:32 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/Chase-sapphire-preffered/m-p/4473851#M109086</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-02-26T17:07:32Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Chase sapphire preffered?</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/Chase-sapphire-preffered/m-p/4473902#M109088</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;From looking at other people who were approved for CSP, I think your scores need to get a little closer to 700ish (Chase seems to usually pull Experian), and they might need to see you with another card with a 5k limit before they will issue CSP because it has a minimum 5k limit.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2016 17:36:14 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-02-26T17:36:14Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Chase sapphire preffered?</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/Chase-sapphire-preffered/m-p/4473914#M109089</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Any other cards I should try for? Amex? I was preapproved for the green charge card but I'm not interested in that.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Also Discover simply won't give me a CLI, even after 3 years of perfect payment history. It's BS.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2016 17:48:16 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/Chase-sapphire-preffered/m-p/4473914#M109089</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-02-26T17:48:16Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Chase sapphire preffered?</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/Chase-sapphire-preffered/m-p/4473994#M109097</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Sure - suggestions would be based on what kind of cards you are after though. CSP is a great travel card, so maybe a different travel card? I know people really love the Barclay's Arrival+, CapitalOne Venture, and BofA travel rewards cards.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2016 18:43:53 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-02-26T18:43:53Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Chase sapphire preffered?</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/Chase-sapphire-preffered/m-p/4474117#M109115</link>
      <description>my only worry is most of those travel cards will likely want higher scores. barclay is a TU puller and 622 isn't going to get an arrival</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2016 20:26:58 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-02-26T20:26:58Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Chase sapphire preffered?</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/Chase-sapphire-preffered/m-p/4474201#M109125</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;When I called Cap1 yesterday to upgrade my Platinum to the QS, they also told me I was eligible for the Venture as well. Should I get that as a second Cap1 card? I don't really need a "travel" card. Just looking for another credit card with decent cash back / rewards that will thicken my profile. Ultimately it would be nice to establish a relationship with the lender and upgrade to a better card down the line. Maybe the Freedom card? Or one of the Amex every days?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2016 21:34:38 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/Chase-sapphire-preffered/m-p/4474201#M109125</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-02-26T21:34:38Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Chase sapphire preffered?</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/Chase-sapphire-preffered/m-p/4474205#M109126</link>
      <description>you probably aren't ready for an amex ED. and you need to determine what you want in a card specifically before you start applying.</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2016 21:36:16 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/Chase-sapphire-preffered/m-p/4474205#M109126</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-02-26T21:36:16Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Chase sapphire preffered?</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/Chase-sapphire-preffered/m-p/4474367#M109136</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Credit Karma also shows me very good approval odds for the CSP. I can absolutely guarantee that I would get denied if I apped.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2016 23:50:08 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/Chase-sapphire-preffered/m-p/4474367#M109136</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-02-26T23:50:08Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Chase sapphire preffered?</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/Chase-sapphire-preffered/m-p/4474483#M109154</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I could be wrong, but I am pretty sure&amp;nbsp;the cards that show up more often/at the top of every list are the ones that are being paid to be there.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Pretty sure I even remember reading some small print on their website stating so.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I would imagine if this is the case then they could easily raise your chances from a 'most likely a denial' to a 'good' chance if they are going to get more $$$ out of it.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;After all, if they state in the fineprint that even a 'great chance' could result in a denial, they have themselves covered.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Back to the original question, as others have already stated, I would wait until your scores are hovering around the 700 mark before applying.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Chase also likes to see that you have a card with at least a $5k limit and also decent income as this card is intended for people who travel and spend a fair amount yearly.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;As for other products, it depends on your spend, if you travel; and who you would travel with.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Without knowing too much about your spending habits I would recommend the Citi DC or the Venture card as these cards both offer good rewards for general spending.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;If you update us with your spending habits we might be able to give you better suited recommendations.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 27 Feb 2016 01:26:46 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-02-27T01:26:46Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Chase sapphire preffered?</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/Chase-sapphire-preffered/m-p/4474596#M109162</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I just got approved today, also freedom was approved at same time. 1 year credit history. Ex 699 TU 692. I only have 2 CC , discover student,1300CL and credit one, 600CL.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 27 Feb 2016 03:25:31 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-02-27T03:25:31Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Chase sapphire preffered?</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/Chase-sapphire-preffered/m-p/4474949#M109184</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;@ OP&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Did Discover state a reason of not increasing your credit line?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 27 Feb 2016 13:44:50 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-02-27T13:44:50Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Chase sapphire preffered?</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/Chase-sapphire-preffered/m-p/4474966#M109185</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;@Anonymous wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;Credit Karma tells me "very good" approval odds but shows "fair" for the freedom card? I'm a little skeptical that this is some type of marketing gimmick and I'm almost sure I won't bet approved for the sapphire preffered. Any suggestions?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;CCT Scores FICO 8:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Experian - 663 w/ 10 Inq's (only 4 are CC's)&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;TransUnion - 622 w/ 3 Inq's (only 1 is CC)&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Equifax - 657 w/ 5 Inq's (only 1 is CC)&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Current credit cards:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;CapOne Platinum just recently upgrade to QS. One year old - no missed payments $4k limit.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Discover It - $750 limit - 3 years old no missed payments.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;What are some other good options for me if the Chase card isn't a good app? I feel like I should have another one or two.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Thanks&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;I hate to say but CreditKarma is paid advertising and if you would apply for CSP I would expect a denial ..sorry.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Have you tried the Chase pre-approvals?&amp;nbsp; If Freedom comes up as pre-approved then go ahead with&amp;nbsp; Freedom but if not then I would wait with Chase until you get your scores a bit higher (closer to 700)&amp;nbsp; If you do not travel and would like to use cash back then CSP would be a complete waste and not worth to pay the AF.&amp;nbsp; In the meantime try to work on SP CLIs with Cap1 and Discover to work towards 5K limit and getting your scores up.&amp;nbsp; You may consider Citi Double cash&amp;nbsp; or Fidelity Rewards Visa later on for general 2% cash back.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 27 Feb 2016 14:09:58 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/Chase-sapphire-preffered/m-p/4474966#M109185</guid>
      <dc:creator>lg8302ch</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-02-27T14:09:58Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Chase sapphire preffered?</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/Chase-sapphire-preffered/m-p/4475808#M109242</link>
      <description>Just as a data point, you don't need another card with a 5k + limit for the CSP. I apped for mine with a score in the mid-high sixes - only cards reporting at that time were a 2500 CapOne and a 2k Amex. I pulled my Venture and Discover maybe a week before my CSP, but they weren't reporting yet.</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 28 Feb 2016 05:15:35 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/Chase-sapphire-preffered/m-p/4475808#M109242</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-02-28T05:15:35Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Chase sapphire preffered?</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/Chase-sapphire-preffered/m-p/4475809#M109243</link>
      <description>Although to note - the CSP was showing for me on the Chase prequalifier.</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 28 Feb 2016 05:16:28 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/Chase-sapphire-preffered/m-p/4475809#M109243</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-02-28T05:16:28Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Chase sapphire preffered?</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/Chase-sapphire-preffered/m-p/4475822#M109250</link>
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      <pubDate>Sun, 28 Feb 2016 05:42:10 GMT</pubDate>
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