topic Re: Will chase decline my app? in Credit Card Applications

Will chase decline my app?

Creditplz — Mon, 11 Apr 2016 14:36:21 GMT

So 5-6 or so years ago while in college I left a checking account at -600? I never paid this. I got a letter 4 years ago saying it was CO. Never a collection or anything but even now when I go to get a checking there they said they will always tell me no. I've offered to pay and they say no.. So my question is, will this affect them just declining my app? I'm not sure if I'm blacklisted but their products (even their checking accounts) are good!!! And I would like to add one to my back pocket.. Anyone??

Re: Will chase decline my app?

CYBERSAM — Mon, 11 Apr 2016 16:47:45 GMT

@Creditplz wrote:
So 5-6 or so years ago while in college I left a checking account at -600? I never paid this. I got a letter 4 years ago saying it was CO. Never a collection or anything but even now when I go to get a checking there they said they will always tell me no. I've offered to pay and they say no.. So my question is, will this affect them just declining my app? I'm not sure if I'm blacklisted but their products (even their checking accounts) are good!!! And I would like to add one to my back pocket.. Anyone??

If it is showing as collection on 3 CB then dispute it and given they didn't want your money, you can have it removed!
checking account issue is more effected on chexsys file then credit report!

I'll say try to resolve this 1st before going for any new CCs

Re: Will chase decline my app?

Creditplz — Mon, 11 Apr 2016 16:57:44 GMT

It's not in collections or anything.. Nothing bad shows up in my credit reports

Re: Will chase decline my app?

creditguy — Mon, 11 Apr 2016 17:06:11 GMT

The best way to tell would probably be to try an open a new checking account with them. If they won't allow that then you might be on their bad side.

Re: Will chase decline my app?

Creditplz — Mon, 11 Apr 2016 17:15:02 GMT

I tried and they say no... ah well.. I'll take my business elsewhere, their signup bonuses are just so attractive!

Re: Will chase decline my app?

Creditplz — Mon, 11 Apr 2016 17:34:45 GMT

Just called Chase recovery (877-287-7303) paid it in full. $635. Guy recommended I wait 30 days before applying for any Chase products.

Re: Will chase decline my app?

myjourney — Mon, 11 Apr 2016 20:09:37 GMT

@Creditplz wrote:
Just called Chase recovery (877-287-7303) paid it in full. $635. Guy recommended I wait 30 days before applying for any Chase products.

This is very interesting and here's why:

A CO is classified as a charge off and can not be collected just like when a BK is discharged

The company has taken a tax write-off thus declared it as a bad debt

1) you shouldn't have paid cause by law they can't take a write-off (tax exemption) and then collect from you (double dip)

2) What the person on the phone told you about waiting to apply means absolutely nothing

3) the reason you were denied a checking/savings account is because it is showing up in chex-systems or one of the other banking systems

4) chase lending and banking are 2 different divisions and one can not preside over an approval of the other

Not sure what your course of action is now that you've paid your money because you could have at least ask that it be considered a PFD on all credit/banking systems

Interesting indeed (head scratch)

Re: Will chase decline my app?

crrredit — Mon, 11 Apr 2016 20:26:02 GMT

A bank can take payment for a charge off. All the CO means is they moved it off their list of assets because the likelihood of it being collected is too small. But it's still a debt that is owed. If they sell the debt after the charge off, then they can't collect, but whomever they sold it to can. They can also "forgive" the debt and send you a tax form that means you have to report that amount as income. After that I don't think the bank can take payment on that debt.

Re: Will chase decline my app?

myjourney — Mon, 11 Apr 2016 20:29:47 GMT

@crrredit wrote:
A bank can take payment for a charge off. All the CO means is they moved it off their list of assets because the likelihood of it being collected is too small. But it's still a debt that is owed. If they sell the debt after the charge off, then they can't collect, but whomever they sold it to can. They can also "forgive" the debt and send you a tax form that means you have to report that amount as income. After that I don't think the bank can take payment on that debt.

In some cases you're correct but if they took a write-off----tax exemption then they can not collect and correct on the tax form but OP just paid w/o any of this info which s bad

Re: Will chase decline my app?

Anonymous — Mon, 11 Apr 2016 21:01:07 GMT

@myjourney wrote:
@crrredit wrote:
A bank can take payment for a charge off. All the CO means is they moved it off their list of assets because the likelihood of it being collected is too small. But it's still a debt that is owed. If they sell the debt after the charge off, then they can't collect, but whomever they sold it to can. They can also "forgive" the debt and send you a tax form that means you have to report that amount as income. After that I don't think the bank can take payment on that debt.
In some cases you're correct but if they took a write-off----tax exemption then they can not collect and correct on the tax form but OP just paid w/o any of this info which s bad
The tax issue is not relevent. The company simply returns an account written off as back to active on their receivable aging. It offsets and creates a negative expense. When they pay taxes in the current year it becomes income. If you are willing to pay an old debt off, they can certainly collect.

Re: Will chase decline my app?

myjourney — Mon, 11 Apr 2016 21:08:42 GMT

@Anonymous wrote:
@myjourney wrote:
@crrredit wrote:
A bank can take payment for a charge off. All the CO means is they moved it off their list of assets because the likelihood of it being collected is too small. But it's still a debt that is owed. If they sell the debt after the charge off, then they can't collect, but whomever they sold it to can. They can also "forgive" the debt and send you a tax form that means you have to report that amount as income. After that I don't think the bank can take payment on that debt.
In some cases you're correct but if they took a write-off----tax exemption then they can not collect and correct on the tax form but OP just paid w/o any of this info which s bad
The tax issue is not relevent. The company simply returns an account written off as back to active on their receivable aging. It offsets and creates a negative expense. When they pay taxes in the current year it becomes income. If you are willing to pay an old debt off, they can certainly collect.

That makes sense explained as a negative expense and becomes income ....WTG

Creative bookkeeping

Re: Will chase decline my app?

creditguy — Mon, 11 Apr 2016 21:17:49 GMT

@myjourney wrote:
@Anonymous wrote:
@myjourney wrote:
@crrredit wrote:
A bank can take payment for a charge off. All the CO means is they moved it off their list of assets because the likelihood of it being collected is too small. But it's still a debt that is owed. If they sell the debt after the charge off, then they can't collect, but whomever they sold it to can. They can also "forgive" the debt and send you a tax form that means you have to report that amount as income. After that I don't think the bank can take payment on that debt.
In some cases you're correct but if they took a write-off----tax exemption then they can not collect and correct on the tax form but OP just paid w/o any of this info which s bad
The tax issue is not relevent. The company simply returns an account written off as back to active on their receivable aging. It offsets and creates a negative expense. When they pay taxes in the current year it becomes income. If you are willing to pay an old debt off, they can certainly collect.
That makes sense explained as a negative expense and becomes income ....WTG
Creative bookkeeping

If banks know anything it's creative bookkeeping alright.