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    <title>topic Re: PenFed application denial in Credit Card Applications</title>
    <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/PenFed-application-denial/m-p/4737971#M137698</link>
    <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;@Anonymous wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;@ joltdude&lt;BR /&gt;You're right that's exactly what it's.&lt;BR /&gt;As jerenae4 said about the survey above I actually followed his lead and it turned out they called me back 30 min later but I was told it's not possible at the moment give at least 6 months.&lt;BR /&gt;@ Abuke1122&lt;BR /&gt;Thank you for your invitation I'll probably do that.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;img id="smileyhappy" class="emoticon emoticon-smileyhappy" src="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif" alt="Smiley Happy" title="Smiley Happy" /&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;Aww I'm sorry that didn't work! I'm a "she" by the way. So you don't have any installment loans on your account and for this reason you were denied? Interesting data point. Thank you for sharing and I hope you are able to get in in 6 mos! I've been debating NFCU as well.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Sat, 03 Sep 2016 14:03:10 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2016-09-03T14:03:10Z</dc:date>
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      <title>PenFed application denial</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/PenFed-application-denial/m-p/4736544#M137549</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;hello everyone,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;this forum is one of the best thing out there i have seen. thanks to all of you for your contributions in many ways.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;this is my 1st post ever here.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;So while reading all about PenFed i took a shot last week applied for membership over the phone RedCross option worked as i have donated blood recently.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;after being approved for membership and basic share account with $5 inital deposit I was offered to apply for a credit card if I'm interested since i read about most members&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;getting approved I went for it and got rejected because most of my accounts are new from last year.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;she said only way i could have better odds by funding my account Max $50/day and take a loan against my balance and then try after 6 months which i think is so wierd never red about it, however i called next day again and i requested recon but no luck i even tried a lower status card as i read some members had luck with that but also got rejected&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;i just wanted to hear what you guys had to say about this.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;thanks to ya all in advance.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;My ACCs&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Chase Saphire 15k &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; Cap One 15K &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;Citi &amp;nbsp;HHonors 7K &amp;nbsp; Barclay Hawain &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;5K &amp;nbsp;Discover &amp;nbsp; $1900&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 01 Sep 2016 22:08:45 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/PenFed-application-denial/m-p/4736544#M137549</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-09-01T22:08:45Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: PenFed application denial</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/PenFed-application-denial/m-p/4736570#M137550</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;What are your scores and how new are the accounts you recently opened? &amp;nbsp;If they have not been opened for at least 6 months to a year, then they could just want to see more activity/regular usage on your current accounts. &amp;nbsp;Did the denial letter mention anything else?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 01 Sep 2016 22:35:49 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/PenFed-application-denial/m-p/4736570#M137550</guid>
      <dc:creator>srloring13</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-09-01T22:35:49Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: PenFed application denial</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/PenFed-application-denial/m-p/4736605#M137553</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;If you get a survey about your experience, fill it out and make sure you make it known you are disappointed in their decision, given some of your other cards and limits - in a nice way, of course &lt;img id="smileyhappy" class="emoticon emoticon-smileyhappy" src="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif" alt="Smiley Happy" title="Smiley Happy" /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 01 Sep 2016 23:08:50 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/PenFed-application-denial/m-p/4736605#M137553</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-09-01T23:08:50Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: PenFed application denial</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/PenFed-application-denial/m-p/4736622#M137555</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;i had left the savings open for like a year, after i was denied for pyramiding debt. what does that mean by funding the account for $50/day?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 01 Sep 2016 23:28:22 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/PenFed-application-denial/m-p/4736622#M137555</guid>
      <dc:creator>padme</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-09-01T23:28:22Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: PenFed application denial</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/PenFed-application-denial/m-p/4736627#M137556</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Cap1/Saphire/discover were opened around 11/2015 same time&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;and barclay and citi around 03/2016/- 04/2016&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;after the last inq of penfed scores as of today are as followings&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;they pulled Equifax&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Fico score 8 &amp;nbsp;EQuifax &amp;nbsp; 728&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Fico score 8 &amp;nbsp;Experian &amp;nbsp; 738&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Fico score 8 &amp;nbsp;TransUnion &amp;nbsp; 743&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 01 Sep 2016 23:35:14 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/PenFed-application-denial/m-p/4736627#M137556</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-09-01T23:35:14Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: PenFed application denial</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/PenFed-application-denial/m-p/4736628#M137557</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;meaning i should fund my share account with an external account and $50 max per day i can transfer to this penfed share account and after it reaches above $200 i can take a loan against it &amp;nbsp;some like that she was saying.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 01 Sep 2016 23:36:49 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/PenFed-application-denial/m-p/4736628#M137557</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-09-01T23:36:49Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: PenFed application denial</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/PenFed-application-denial/m-p/4736630#M137558</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;@ jrenae4&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;yes i have read about that I'll try that option thanks for your encouragement&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 01 Sep 2016 23:41:28 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/PenFed-application-denial/m-p/4736630#M137558</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-09-01T23:41:28Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: PenFed application denial</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/PenFed-application-denial/m-p/4736631#M137559</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/767267"&gt;@padme&lt;/a&gt; wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;i had left the savings open for like a year, after i was denied for&lt;FONT color="#FF0000"&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt; pyramiding debt&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;. what does that mean by funding the account for $50/day?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;Definition of pyramiding debt: &amp;nbsp;&lt;A href="http://www.privatebanking.com/knowledgebase/financial-glossary/pyramid-debt" target="_blank"&gt;http://www.privatebanking.com/knowledgebase/financial-glossary/pyramid-debt&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;If true, this is a pretty serious thing. Adding new cards doesn't get you the pyramiding debt label to my knowledge. Charging on those new cards and letting balances sit will get you that label.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 01 Sep 2016 23:42:25 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/PenFed-application-denial/m-p/4736631#M137559</guid>
      <dc:creator>StartingOver10</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-09-01T23:42:25Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: PenFed application denial</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/PenFed-application-denial/m-p/4737711#M137678</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I think the CSR was recommending a secure share loan / creditbuilder loan to the OP...&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;If you dont have any installment loans or ones about to be paid off .. its not a bad idea.....&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;(theres multiple threads on the subject)&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 03 Sep 2016 02:31:32 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/PenFed-application-denial/m-p/4737711#M137678</guid>
      <dc:creator>joltdude</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-09-03T02:31:32Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: PenFed application denial</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/PenFed-application-denial/m-p/4737824#M137685</link>
      <description>Or you could come join us over at NFCU😊</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 03 Sep 2016 05:12:45 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/PenFed-application-denial/m-p/4737824#M137685</guid>
      <dc:creator>Aduke1122</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-09-03T05:12:45Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: PenFed application denial</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/PenFed-application-denial/m-p/4737842#M137686</link>
      <description>@ joltdude&lt;BR /&gt;You're right that's exactly what it's.&lt;BR /&gt;As jerenae4 said about the survey above I actually followed his lead and it turned out they called me back 30 min later but I was told it's not possible at the moment give at least 6 months.&lt;BR /&gt;@ Abuke1122&lt;BR /&gt;Thank you for your invitation I'll probably do that.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;img id="smileyhappy" class="emoticon emoticon-smileyhappy" src="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif" alt="Smiley Happy" title="Smiley Happy" /&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 03 Sep 2016 05:51:08 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/PenFed-application-denial/m-p/4737842#M137686</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-09-03T05:51:08Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: PenFed application denial</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/PenFed-application-denial/m-p/4737847#M137689</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;@Anonymous wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;meaning i should fund my share account with an external account and $50 max per day i can transfer to this penfed share account and after it reaches above $200 i can take a loan against it &amp;nbsp;some like that she was saying.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp; I tried to drag 1k over to penfed and got the "$50 a day" message. That was the end of my savings at PenFed. &amp;nbsp;It sits with $80 still.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp; They are suggesting you open a Share Secured Loan to show payment history. &amp;nbsp;It will be a secured installment loan on your reports. You can probably get the same result from gardening&amp;nbsp;and not take the hit (unless you need an installment loan reporting).&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 03 Sep 2016 06:04:04 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/PenFed-application-denial/m-p/4737847#M137689</guid>
      <dc:creator>elim</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-09-03T06:04:04Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: PenFed application denial</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/PenFed-application-denial/m-p/4737971#M137698</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;@Anonymous wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;@ joltdude&lt;BR /&gt;You're right that's exactly what it's.&lt;BR /&gt;As jerenae4 said about the survey above I actually followed his lead and it turned out they called me back 30 min later but I was told it's not possible at the moment give at least 6 months.&lt;BR /&gt;@ Abuke1122&lt;BR /&gt;Thank you for your invitation I'll probably do that.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;img id="smileyhappy" class="emoticon emoticon-smileyhappy" src="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif" alt="Smiley Happy" title="Smiley Happy" /&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;Aww I'm sorry that didn't work! I'm a "she" by the way. So you don't have any installment loans on your account and for this reason you were denied? Interesting data point. Thank you for sharing and I hope you are able to get in in 6 mos! I've been debating NFCU as well.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 03 Sep 2016 14:03:10 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/PenFed-application-denial/m-p/4737971#M137698</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-09-03T14:03:10Z</dc:date>
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