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    <title>topic Re: PenFed CU - Double hard pull in Credit Card Applications</title>
    <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/PenFed-CU-Double-hard-pull/m-p/5730582#M240227</link>
    <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/949124"&gt;@AverageJoesCredit&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;Hps are becoming a PF Specialty&lt;img id="smileywink" class="emoticon emoticon-smileywink" src="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif" alt="Smiley Wink" title="Smiley Wink" /&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;pretty soon, HP for looking at web portal&lt;img id="smileyindifferent" class="emoticon emoticon-smileyindifferent" src="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif" alt="Smiley Indifferent" title="Smiley Indifferent" /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Mon, 02 Sep 2019 23:29:20 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>M_Smart007</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2019-09-02T23:29:20Z</dc:date>
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      <title>PenFed CU - Double hard pull</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/PenFed-CU-Double-hard-pull/m-p/5730156#M240182</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I opened a PenFed CU bank account, followed up by an auto-loan refi and credit card app in the same day which resulted in a double hard pull.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;They were listed as:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Pentagon Fcu&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Pentagon Fcu-alexand&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I will call them tomorrow to see if they will remove one but just wanted to warn you guys. I did not see this happening to others although I could have missed it. I will update on my results.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 02 Sep 2019 16:30:56 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/PenFed-CU-Double-hard-pull/m-p/5730156#M240182</guid>
      <dc:creator>randomguy1</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2019-09-02T16:30:56Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: PenFed CU - Double hard pull</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/PenFed-CU-Double-hard-pull/m-p/5730160#M240183</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;It's weird how these work. I actually don't remember PenFed pulling my credit when I joined 2 years ago. I do remember getting an HP for the PCR card.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Good Luck!&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 02 Sep 2019 16:35:58 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/PenFed-CU-Double-hard-pull/m-p/5730160#M240183</guid>
      <dc:creator>CramEiko</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2019-09-02T16:35:58Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: PenFed CU - Double hard pull</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/PenFed-CU-Double-hard-pull/m-p/5730239#M240190</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;This is becoming annoyingly frequent... The PenFed Alexandria entry has even shown up for some people who were just going for membership, not credit products.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 02 Sep 2019 17:43:15 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/PenFed-CU-Double-hard-pull/m-p/5730239#M240190</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2019-09-02T17:43:15Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: PenFed CU - Double hard pull</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/PenFed-CU-Double-hard-pull/m-p/5730251#M240191</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Don't waste your time calling to get a removal. They do a pull for membership and then a pull for products. The good news they will use the product pull for 30 days. I have two credit cards with them and they are my only cards that allow the same cash line as credit.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 02 Sep 2019 17:55:19 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/PenFed-CU-Double-hard-pull/m-p/5730251#M240191</guid>
      <dc:creator>tussking</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2019-09-02T17:55:19Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: PenFed CU - Double hard pull</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/PenFed-CU-Double-hard-pull/m-p/5730254#M240192</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Penfed HPs for membership and they use the same HP for bank accounts and &lt;EM&gt;usually&lt;/EM&gt; the same HP for a CC for &lt;EM&gt;usually&lt;/EM&gt; up to 30 days. YMMV.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;It's a separate HP for secured loans, auto or mortgage/home equity. Penfed has been a bit more HP happy than usual lately.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 02 Sep 2019 17:57:11 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/PenFed-CU-Double-hard-pull/m-p/5730254#M240192</guid>
      <dc:creator>DaveInAZ</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2019-09-02T17:57:11Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: PenFed CU - Double hard pull</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/PenFed-CU-Double-hard-pull/m-p/5730327#M240201</link>
      <description>I had recently called penfed about a balance transfer. I had opened 2 accounts, a car loan and cc in dec. My limit is 10k on cc. I wanted to see if they would do a sp for increase. I did not want to take a hit of 80% uti. They said it would have to be a hard pull. So instead, I opened a cc at navy. Gave me a 25k open line and no transfer fee. So I deffinatley saved there. Then after that, I ran almost 4k thru penfed for dental work. I paid it all off before statement cut. Now it will be sockdrawer time and see if after a year is up, if they will appreciate me more.</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 02 Sep 2019 19:00:55 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/PenFed-CU-Double-hard-pull/m-p/5730327#M240201</guid>
      <dc:creator>Traveler101</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2019-09-02T19:00:55Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: PenFed CU - Double hard pull</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/PenFed-CU-Double-hard-pull/m-p/5730408#M240203</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I have definitely heard better things with the NavyCU. If was was eligible to join, I would definitely be there.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 02 Sep 2019 20:03:58 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/PenFed-CU-Double-hard-pull/m-p/5730408#M240203</guid>
      <dc:creator>randomguy1</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2019-09-02T20:03:58Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: PenFed CU - Double hard pull</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/PenFed-CU-Double-hard-pull/m-p/5730471#M240211</link>
      <description>Hps are becoming a PF Specialty&lt;img id="smileywink" class="emoticon emoticon-smileywink" src="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif" alt="Smiley Wink" title="Smiley Wink" /&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 02 Sep 2019 21:11:13 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/PenFed-CU-Double-hard-pull/m-p/5730471#M240211</guid>
      <dc:creator>AverageJoesCredit</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2019-09-02T21:11:13Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: PenFed CU - Double hard pull</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/PenFed-CU-Double-hard-pull/m-p/5730582#M240227</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/949124"&gt;@AverageJoesCredit&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;Hps are becoming a PF Specialty&lt;img id="smileywink" class="emoticon emoticon-smileywink" src="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif" alt="Smiley Wink" title="Smiley Wink" /&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;pretty soon, HP for looking at web portal&lt;img id="smileyindifferent" class="emoticon emoticon-smileyindifferent" src="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif" alt="Smiley Indifferent" title="Smiley Indifferent" /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 02 Sep 2019 23:29:20 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/PenFed-CU-Double-hard-pull/m-p/5730582#M240227</guid>
      <dc:creator>M_Smart007</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2019-09-02T23:29:20Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: PenFed CU - Double hard pull</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/PenFed-CU-Double-hard-pull/m-p/5730590#M240228</link>
      <description>Thanks M_Smart007 That made me LOL!!</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 02 Sep 2019 23:37:34 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/PenFed-CU-Double-hard-pull/m-p/5730590#M240228</guid>
      <dc:creator>UH_HUH</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2019-09-02T23:37:34Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: PenFed CU - Double hard pull</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/PenFed-CU-Double-hard-pull/m-p/5730592#M240229</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/1066900"&gt;@UH_HUH&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;Thanks M_Smart007 That made me LOL!!&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;I laughed when I read your response&lt;img id="smileylol" class="emoticon emoticon-smileylol" src="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-lol.gif" alt="Smiley LOL" title="Smiley LOL" /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; ..life is to short to &lt;STRONG&gt;NOT&lt;/STRONG&gt; LOL!&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 02 Sep 2019 23:39:56 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/PenFed-CU-Double-hard-pull/m-p/5730592#M240229</guid>
      <dc:creator>M_Smart007</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2019-09-02T23:39:56Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: PenFed CU - Double hard pull</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/PenFed-CU-Double-hard-pull/m-p/5730616#M240231</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Laughed AND Smiled at that one M_Smart007 :-)&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I really agree with the LOL comment...&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I live life in a "Let's Have Some Fun"&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;kinda way...beats the dark side :-)&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 03 Sep 2019 00:15:41 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/PenFed-CU-Double-hard-pull/m-p/5730616#M240231</guid>
      <dc:creator>UH_HUH</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2019-09-03T00:15:41Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: PenFed CU - Double hard pull</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/PenFed-CU-Double-hard-pull/m-p/5730617#M240232</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/1066900"&gt;@UH_HUH&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;Laughed AND Smiled at that one M_Smart007 :-)&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I really agree with the LOL comment...&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I live life in a "Let's Have Some Fun"&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;kinda way...beats the dark side :-)&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;Sure does&lt;img id="smileyvery-happy" class="emoticon emoticon-smileyvery-happy" src="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif" alt="Smiley Very Happy" title="Smiley Very Happy" /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 03 Sep 2019 00:17:49 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/PenFed-CU-Double-hard-pull/m-p/5730617#M240232</guid>
      <dc:creator>M_Smart007</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2019-09-03T00:17:49Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: PenFed CU - Double hard pull</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/PenFed-CU-Double-hard-pull/m-p/5730645#M240235</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/949124"&gt;@AverageJoesCredit&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;Hps are becoming a PF Specialty&lt;img id="smileywink" class="emoticon emoticon-smileywink" src="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif" alt="Smiley Wink" title="Smiley Wink" /&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;Good now I can bug PF Specialist &lt;a href="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/949124"&gt;@AverageJoesCredit&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 03 Sep 2019 00:51:51 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/PenFed-CU-Double-hard-pull/m-p/5730645#M240235</guid>
      <dc:creator>M_Smart007</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2019-09-03T00:51:51Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: PenFed CU - Double hard pull</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/PenFed-CU-Double-hard-pull/m-p/5730924#M240266</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hello,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;When I joined PenFed, I opened a chking and svings on the same day. They did a HP for each. I called the next day (had to let overnight processing happen) and requested they delete or not report 1 of the HP's since both accounts were opened on the same day. Was xferd to a back office person who said yeah no prob that it could be done. He did advise however that I might see both HP's if i pull my cr within the next couple weeks but 1 would be gone within the month if it did show.&amp;nbsp; FF a couple weeks and onyl 1 HP was reported. this was about 2.5yrs ago.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 03 Sep 2019 11:03:43 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/PenFed-CU-Double-hard-pull/m-p/5730924#M240266</guid>
      <dc:creator>xiocc</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2019-09-03T11:03:43Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: PenFed CU - Double hard pull</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/PenFed-CU-Double-hard-pull/m-p/5730930#M240267</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Good data points.Thanks for sharing:-)&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 03 Sep 2019 11:29:24 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/PenFed-CU-Double-hard-pull/m-p/5730930#M240267</guid>
      <dc:creator>UH_HUH</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2019-09-03T11:29:24Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: PenFed CU - Double hard pull</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/PenFed-CU-Double-hard-pull/m-p/5736903#M240775</link>
      <description>I just wanted to update the thread. I finally called them and the CSR told me that auto and credit loans run through different systems and pull different reports so there will always be two pulls even if it is made in the same day.</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 08 Sep 2019 14:19:11 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/PenFed-CU-Double-hard-pull/m-p/5736903#M240775</guid>
      <dc:creator>randomguy1</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2019-09-08T14:19:11Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: PenFed CU - Double hard pull</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/PenFed-CU-Double-hard-pull/m-p/5736925#M240776</link>
      <description>This is like Navy in that regard. Credit and auto two separate departments.</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 08 Sep 2019 14:53:20 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/PenFed-CU-Double-hard-pull/m-p/5736925#M240776</guid>
      <dc:creator>AverageJoesCredit</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2019-09-08T14:53:20Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: PenFed CU - Double hard pull</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/PenFed-CU-Double-hard-pull/m-p/5736962#M240778</link>
      <description>PenFed loves the HP.</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 08 Sep 2019 15:38:41 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/PenFed-CU-Double-hard-pull/m-p/5736962#M240778</guid>
      <dc:creator>LittleSal</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2019-09-08T15:38:41Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: PenFed CU - Double hard pull</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/PenFed-CU-Double-hard-pull/m-p/5737042#M240788</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/1057088"&gt;@LittleSal&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;PenFed loves the HP.&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;And hates the Average Joes&lt;img id="smileywink" class="emoticon emoticon-smileywink" src="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif" alt="Smiley Wink" title="Smiley Wink" /&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 08 Sep 2019 17:34:47 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/PenFed-CU-Double-hard-pull/m-p/5737042#M240788</guid>
      <dc:creator>AverageJoesCredit</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2019-09-08T17:34:47Z</dc:date>
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