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    <title>topic Re: Denial Reason in Credit Card Applications</title>
    <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/Denial-Reason/m-p/6644876#M318984</link>
    <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/1131642"&gt;@Beulaensarangdi&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;With American Express allowing you to "apply" and see your chances without having to take a hard pull, unless you accept - I decided to give it a go.&lt;BR /&gt;I have applied before and been denied due to mainly my FICO being to low, which I expected - and took a hard pull for my troubles.&amp;nbsp; But that's neither here nor there and I digress.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Tried the gold Delta card - was denied, which I wasn't to surprised by, but the reason struck me as strange.&amp;nbsp; I know that there are a multitude of reasons a company can put as "the reason", but I've never seen this one or had this as one.&amp;nbsp;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;And for context - I am not participating in anything of this nature.&amp;nbsp; Now I admit, that I am in the forbearance or whatever for student loans, like a lot of people are, but the reason never came up when I applied previously.&amp;nbsp; But I don't think it's listed as deffered or whatever on the reports themselves, unless I am mistaken.&lt;BR /&gt;I even looked at my Experian report via the free annual report and on their site and it shows nothing that would be considered what Amex said they "saw".&amp;nbsp; I am paying my bills when due, paying more during the month, etc and am in the middle of getting down&amp;nbsp; utilization across my few cards - it's still not ideal, but way lower than it had been.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Any insights as to what this means, besides the literal meaning &lt;img id="smileyhappy" class="emoticon emoticon-smileyhappy" src="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif" alt="Smiley Happy" title="Smiley Happy" /&gt;, just a bit of curiosity on my end as y'all have a lot more experience with everything than I do &lt;img id="smileyhappy" class="emoticon emoticon-smileyhappy" src="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif" alt="Smiley Happy" title="Smiley Happy" /&gt; - see below&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Thank you for applying for Delta SkyMiles® Platinum American Express Card. We are writing to let you know that unfortunately, we cannot approve your application at this time for the following reasons:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Information received from Experian consumer reporting agency (see below)&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The factors provided by the consumer reporting agency that affected our decision are:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;You are participating in a payment relief or deferral program, receiving modified terms, or credit counseling services, on one or more of your accounts or loans.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;They're not thinking straight. The deferral is not one you sought, it was one that was granted across the board. I think if you really want the card you should recon.&amp;nbsp; You might also want to check how the student loan deferral is being reported in your credit report.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Mon, 13 Feb 2023 20:52:58 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>SouthJamaica</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2023-02-13T20:52:58Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Denial Reason</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/Denial-Reason/m-p/6644784#M318980</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;With American Express allowing you to "apply" and see your chances without having to take a hard pull, unless you accept - I decided to give it a go.&lt;BR /&gt;I have applied before and been denied due to mainly my FICO being to low, which I expected - and took a hard pull for my troubles.&amp;nbsp; But that's neither here nor there and I digress.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Tried the gold Delta card - was denied, which I wasn't to surprised by, but the reason struck me as strange.&amp;nbsp; I know that there are a multitude of reasons a company can put as "the reason", but I've never seen this one or had this as one.&amp;nbsp;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;And for context - I am not participating in anything of this nature.&amp;nbsp; Now I admit, that I am in the forbearance or whatever for student loans, like a lot of people are, but the reason never came up when I applied previously.&amp;nbsp; But I don't think it's listed as deffered or whatever on the reports themselves, unless I am mistaken.&lt;BR /&gt;I even looked at my Experian report via the free annual report and on their site and it shows nothing that would be considered what Amex said they "saw".&amp;nbsp; I am paying my bills when due, paying more during the month, etc and am in the middle of getting down&amp;nbsp; utilization across my few cards - it's still not ideal, but way lower than it had been.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Any insights as to what this means, besides the literal meaning &lt;img id="smileyhappy" class="emoticon emoticon-smileyhappy" src="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif" alt="Smiley Happy" title="Smiley Happy" /&gt;, just a bit of curiosity on my end as y'all have a lot more experience with everything than I do &lt;img id="smileyhappy" class="emoticon emoticon-smileyhappy" src="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif" alt="Smiley Happy" title="Smiley Happy" /&gt; - see below&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Thank you for applying for Delta SkyMiles® Platinum American Express Card. We are writing to let you know that unfortunately, we cannot approve your application at this time for the following reasons:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Information received from Experian consumer reporting agency (see below)&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The factors provided by the consumer reporting agency that affected our decision are:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;You are participating in a payment relief or deferral program, receiving modified terms, or credit counseling services, on one or more of your accounts or loans.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 13 Feb 2023 17:35:52 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/Denial-Reason/m-p/6644784#M318980</guid>
      <dc:creator>Beulaensarangdi</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2023-02-13T17:35:52Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Denial Reason</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/Denial-Reason/m-p/6644876#M318984</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/1131642"&gt;@Beulaensarangdi&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;With American Express allowing you to "apply" and see your chances without having to take a hard pull, unless you accept - I decided to give it a go.&lt;BR /&gt;I have applied before and been denied due to mainly my FICO being to low, which I expected - and took a hard pull for my troubles.&amp;nbsp; But that's neither here nor there and I digress.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Tried the gold Delta card - was denied, which I wasn't to surprised by, but the reason struck me as strange.&amp;nbsp; I know that there are a multitude of reasons a company can put as "the reason", but I've never seen this one or had this as one.&amp;nbsp;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;And for context - I am not participating in anything of this nature.&amp;nbsp; Now I admit, that I am in the forbearance or whatever for student loans, like a lot of people are, but the reason never came up when I applied previously.&amp;nbsp; But I don't think it's listed as deffered or whatever on the reports themselves, unless I am mistaken.&lt;BR /&gt;I even looked at my Experian report via the free annual report and on their site and it shows nothing that would be considered what Amex said they "saw".&amp;nbsp; I am paying my bills when due, paying more during the month, etc and am in the middle of getting down&amp;nbsp; utilization across my few cards - it's still not ideal, but way lower than it had been.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Any insights as to what this means, besides the literal meaning &lt;img id="smileyhappy" class="emoticon emoticon-smileyhappy" src="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif" alt="Smiley Happy" title="Smiley Happy" /&gt;, just a bit of curiosity on my end as y'all have a lot more experience with everything than I do &lt;img id="smileyhappy" class="emoticon emoticon-smileyhappy" src="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif" alt="Smiley Happy" title="Smiley Happy" /&gt; - see below&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Thank you for applying for Delta SkyMiles® Platinum American Express Card. We are writing to let you know that unfortunately, we cannot approve your application at this time for the following reasons:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Information received from Experian consumer reporting agency (see below)&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The factors provided by the consumer reporting agency that affected our decision are:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;You are participating in a payment relief or deferral program, receiving modified terms, or credit counseling services, on one or more of your accounts or loans.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;They're not thinking straight. The deferral is not one you sought, it was one that was granted across the board. I think if you really want the card you should recon.&amp;nbsp; You might also want to check how the student loan deferral is being reported in your credit report.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 13 Feb 2023 20:52:58 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/Denial-Reason/m-p/6644876#M318984</guid>
      <dc:creator>SouthJamaica</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2023-02-13T20:52:58Z</dc:date>
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