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    <title>topic Re: app itchy. app time? in Credit Card Applications</title>
    <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/app-itchy-app-time/m-p/3788361#M35021</link>
    <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;@Anonymous wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;For some reason.. I don't like amex..because when I travel ..a lot of places in Asia don't seem to accept them. Just checked..I have a prequal on qs visa (not signature!) Says no annual fees..probably has a lot CL..prequal on discover too..but I guess everyone has that! Is that qs going to be a low limit card? Ideas?&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;I'd just go for a Venture and PC it to a Quicksilver before the AF hits if you really wanna go that route.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2015 00:39:32 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>chalupaman</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2015-02-09T00:39:32Z</dc:date>
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      <title>app itchy. app time?</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/app-itchy-app-time/m-p/3788299#M35014</link>
      <description>Wf secured at 500, chase freedom at 1200. Wf since May 2014, Chase since August 2014. Scores..704 Tu.. 736 eq and 713 ex.. 3 inq on tu.. 1 on eq and 3 on ex..&lt;BR /&gt;Really itchy to app! Suggestions?</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2015 00:09:13 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/app-itchy-app-time/m-p/3788299#M35014</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-02-09T00:09:13Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: app itchy. app time?</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/app-itchy-app-time/m-p/3788304#M35015</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Have you considered an American Express product? &amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2015 00:11:53 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/app-itchy-app-time/m-p/3788304#M35015</guid>
      <dc:creator>Goblin</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-02-09T00:11:53Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: app itchy. app time?</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/app-itchy-app-time/m-p/3788305#M35016</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Discover It or Cap One Quicksilver, (not Quicksilver one).&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2015 00:11:59 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/app-itchy-app-time/m-p/3788305#M35016</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-02-09T00:11:59Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: app itchy. app time?</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/app-itchy-app-time/m-p/3788306#M35017</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Do you have any prequals?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2015 00:12:05 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/app-itchy-app-time/m-p/3788306#M35017</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-02-09T00:12:05Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: app itchy. app time?</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/app-itchy-app-time/m-p/3788307#M35018</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/690577"&gt;@Goblin&lt;/a&gt; wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;Have you considered an American Express product? &amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;Oh yeah, Amex would also be great!&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2015 00:12:36 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/app-itchy-app-time/m-p/3788307#M35018</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-02-09T00:12:36Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: app itchy. app time?</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/app-itchy-app-time/m-p/3788316#M35019</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I'm getting itchy too.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I hope you update us with those apps so we can live vicariously through you&amp;nbsp;&lt;img id="smileyvery-happy" class="emoticon emoticon-smileyvery-happy" src="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif" alt="Smiley Very Happy" title="Smiley Very Happy" /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2015 00:15:19 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/app-itchy-app-time/m-p/3788316#M35019</guid>
      <dc:creator>Goblin</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-02-09T00:15:19Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: app itchy. app time?</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/app-itchy-app-time/m-p/3788358#M35020</link>
      <description>For some reason.. I don't like amex..because when I travel ..a lot of places in Asia don't seem to accept them. Just checked..I have a prequal on qs visa (not signature!) Says no annual fees..probably has a lot CL..prequal on discover too..but I guess everyone has that! Is that qs going to be a low limit card? Ideas?&lt;BR /&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2015 00:38:25 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/app-itchy-app-time/m-p/3788358#M35020</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-02-09T00:38:25Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: app itchy. app time?</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/app-itchy-app-time/m-p/3788361#M35021</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;@Anonymous wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;For some reason.. I don't like amex..because when I travel ..a lot of places in Asia don't seem to accept them. Just checked..I have a prequal on qs visa (not signature!) Says no annual fees..probably has a lot CL..prequal on discover too..but I guess everyone has that! Is that qs going to be a low limit card? Ideas?&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;I'd just go for a Venture and PC it to a Quicksilver before the AF hits if you really wanna go that route.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2015 00:39:32 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/app-itchy-app-time/m-p/3788361#M35021</guid>
      <dc:creator>chalupaman</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-02-09T00:39:32Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: app itchy. app time?</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/app-itchy-app-time/m-p/3788365#M35022</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;See if you prequal for a Cap1 Venture. &amp;nbsp;Seems like everyone can get $5k or $10k. &amp;nbsp;Don't know how they'll view a thin file like yours, but I think Capital One might take a chance.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2015 00:41:11 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/app-itchy-app-time/m-p/3788365#M35022</guid>
      <dc:creator>happypill</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-02-09T00:41:11Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: app itchy. app time?</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/app-itchy-app-time/m-p/3788370#M35023</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;@Anonymous wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;For some reason.. I don't like amex..because when I travel ..a lot of places in Asia don't seem to accept them. Just checked..I have a prequal on qs visa (not signature!) Says no annual fees..probably has a lot CL..prequal on discover too..but I guess everyone has that! Is that qs going to be a low limit card? Ideas?&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;What interest rate is the pre qual for the QS showing? If it's on the lower end, that frequently indicates a decent credit line. You can ignore Discover. Everybody gets the same thing.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2015 00:45:20 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/app-itchy-app-time/m-p/3788370#M35023</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-02-09T00:45:20Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: app itchy. app time?</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/app-itchy-app-time/m-p/3788371#M35024</link>
      <description>No prequal on venture! &lt;img id="smileysad" class="emoticon emoticon-smileysad" src="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif" alt="Smiley Sad" title="Smiley Sad" /&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2015 00:45:39 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/app-itchy-app-time/m-p/3788371#M35024</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-02-09T00:45:39Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: app itchy. app time?</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/app-itchy-app-time/m-p/3788402#M35025</link>
      <description>Interest is at the highest Apr possible.. Not fun :/</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2015 01:06:13 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/app-itchy-app-time/m-p/3788402#M35025</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-02-09T01:06:13Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: app itchy. app time?</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/app-itchy-app-time/m-p/3788477#M35026</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I would try for venture, honestly. if you're too nervous, QS is a darn good card, IMO&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Edit: Typo&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2015 01:41:41 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/app-itchy-app-time/m-p/3788477#M35026</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-02-09T01:41:41Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: app itchy. app time?</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/app-itchy-app-time/m-p/3788632#M35027</link>
      <description>The other card I'm considering is the chase Amazon visa and for a possible amex ..delta sky miles gold</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2015 03:02:34 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/app-itchy-app-time/m-p/3788632#M35027</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-02-09T03:02:34Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: app itchy. app time?</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/app-itchy-app-time/m-p/3788646#M35028</link>
      <description>Both are great cards, with roughly equal chances of approval. It comes down to what rewards program is best for you.</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2015 03:09:52 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/app-itchy-app-time/m-p/3788646#M35028</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-02-09T03:09:52Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: app itchy. app time?</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/app-itchy-app-time/m-p/3788778#M35029</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;@Anonymous wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;Both are great cards, with roughly equal chances of approval. It comes down to what rewards program is best for you.&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;Discover too. I see a lot of people have that card, seems to be a popular option! (No foreign transaction fee and no AF helps too!)&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2015 04:11:28 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/app-itchy-app-time/m-p/3788778#M35029</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-02-09T04:11:28Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: app itchy. app time?</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/app-itchy-app-time/m-p/3788780#M35030</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;@Anonymous wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;I would try for venture, honestly. if you're too nervous, QS is a darn good card, IMO&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Edit: Typo&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;Good. Not darn good though. &lt;img id="smileyindifferent" class="emoticon emoticon-smileyindifferent" src="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif" alt="Smiley Indifferent" title="Smiley Indifferent" /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;There is too much chance of a so-so approval with the QS. Go for the gold or go home. &lt;img id="smileytongue" class="emoticon emoticon-smileytongue" src="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif" alt="Smiley Tongue" title="Smiley Tongue" /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2015 04:13:43 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/app-itchy-app-time/m-p/3788780#M35030</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-02-09T04:13:43Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: app itchy. app time?</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/app-itchy-app-time/m-p/3788785#M35031</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;@Anonymous wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;@Anonymous wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;I would try for venture, honestly. if you're too nervous, QS is a darn good card, IMO&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Edit: Typo&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;Good. Not darn good though. &lt;img id="smileyindifferent" class="emoticon emoticon-smileyindifferent" src="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif" alt="Smiley Indifferent" title="Smiley Indifferent" /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;There is too much chance of a so-so approval with the QS. Go for the gold or go home. &lt;img id="smileytongue" class="emoticon emoticon-smileytongue" src="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif" alt="Smiley Tongue" title="Smiley Tongue" /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;I got the offer in the mail which says, QS Visa, No Annual Fee and access to higher credit line in the first 5 months or something, I'm just afraid that's going to mean a triple pull for a squaky small limit, discover &amp;nbsp;would probably be higher..(hopefully), what do you think?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2015 04:15:22 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/app-itchy-app-time/m-p/3788785#M35031</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-02-09T04:15:22Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: app itchy. app time?</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/app-itchy-app-time/m-p/3788794#M35032</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;@Anonymous wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;@Anonymous wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;@Anonymous wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;I would try for venture, honestly. if you're too nervous, QS is a darn good card, IMO&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Edit: Typo&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;Good. Not darn good though. &lt;img id="smileyindifferent" class="emoticon emoticon-smileyindifferent" src="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif" alt="Smiley Indifferent" title="Smiley Indifferent" /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;There is too much chance of a so-so approval with the QS. Go for the gold or go home. &lt;img id="smileytongue" class="emoticon emoticon-smileytongue" src="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif" alt="Smiley Tongue" title="Smiley Tongue" /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;I got the offer in the mail which says, QS Visa, No Annual Fee and access to higher credit line in the first 5 months or something, I'm just afraid that's going to mean a triple pull for a squaky small limit, discover &amp;nbsp;would probably be higher..(hopefully), what do you think?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;Just say NO to that offer as it is a Credit Steps type.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;It DOES mean small initial CL and unpredictable CLI after 5 mos.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I don't really suggest applying for anything right now. Let your accounts age some time.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2015 04:17:32 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-02-09T04:17:32Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: app itchy. app time?</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/app-itchy-app-time/m-p/3788859#M35033</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;@Anonymous wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;@Anonymous wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;@Anonymous wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;@Anonymous wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;I would try for venture, honestly. if you're too nervous, QS is a darn good card, IMO&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Edit: Typo&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;Good. Not darn good though. &lt;img id="smileyindifferent" class="emoticon emoticon-smileyindifferent" src="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif" alt="Smiley Indifferent" title="Smiley Indifferent" /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;There is too much chance of a so-so approval with the QS. Go for the gold or go home. &lt;img id="smileytongue" class="emoticon emoticon-smileytongue" src="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif" alt="Smiley Tongue" title="Smiley Tongue" /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;I got the offer in the mail which says, QS Visa, No Annual Fee and access to higher credit line in the first 5 months or something, I'm just afraid that's going to mean a triple pull for a squaky small limit, discover &amp;nbsp;would probably be higher..(hopefully), what do you think?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;Just say NO to that offer as it is a Credit Steps type.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;It DOES mean small initial CL and unpredictable CLI after 5 mos.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I don't really suggest applying for anything right now. Let your accounts age some time.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;Resisting the urge! Staying in the garden with that advice.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I also have checking + savings with Chase at around 15K at the moment, wondering if that's going to help if I try for the CSP at *some* point&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2015 04:42:05 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-02-09T04:42:05Z</dc:date>
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