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    <title>topic Re: CHASE freedom denial! in Credit Card Applications</title>
    <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/CHASE-freedom-denial/m-p/3995919#M59090</link>
    <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/739223"&gt;@JSS3&lt;/a&gt; wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;Every Chase app has resulted in a pull on EX and TU for me. It's not because you recon'd&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;+1&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2015 15:53:47 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2015-05-09T15:53:47Z</dc:date>
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      <title>CHASE freedom denial!</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/CHASE-freedom-denial/m-p/3995517#M59002</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hello guys!&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Here is my story:I applied for Chase Freedom and my application was declined. I called the back door number and I talked with 2 people.The 1st one although she was nice she siad there was nothing that could be done&amp;nbsp;to approve my application and encourage me to reapply in a few months. The 2nd one was initially rude and said that I see that you called 2 hours earlier and talked with &amp;nbsp;blah blah..... I tried to explain him my situation, why I am&amp;nbsp;interested in freedom etc He put me on hold for a while and then came back and said that he still can not approve me.He&amp;nbsp;mentioned the following reasons for declining my application: 1. short credit history, too many accounts open recently and high credit utilization(30%). I thanked him for trying and hung up.However I am gonna call them again tomorrow and i really hope that I will&amp;nbsp;stay calm during the call cause i have the impression that they did a 2nd pull during the recon... (the 2nd person I talked to said that they pulled EX however today in the afternoon when I logged into my CK account I noticed that they also pulled TU). I am very pissed off cause very clealry I asked him if a recon will result in a new HP and he assured me that it won't. Anyway tomorrow In case they insist on denial or in case they will not remove the 2nd HP&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;I will let them&amp;nbsp;know that i will close my checking account with them-something that I will do.(I have&amp;nbsp;set up a direct deposit of my salary there and also my employer (a well known university)has an affiliation with Chase).&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I do not know my fico scores (fako scores CK 643 EQ and 649 TU). Cards: BofA cash rewards 8,000$( 4,000$ CLI 3 days ago with a HP), cap1 platinum 1,500$ (automatic 1000$ CLI on Sunday), Cap1 journey 500$, discover it 1,000$. My first CC was&amp;nbsp;BofA opened in October 2014. (no other type of credit bf that-moved to the US in July 2014).&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;6 inq TU and EX now and 5 EQ, 7 months credit history&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2015 06:18:20 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/CHASE-freedom-denial/m-p/3995517#M59002</guid>
      <dc:creator>meteogeo</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-05-09T06:18:20Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: CHASE freedom denial!</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/CHASE-freedom-denial/m-p/3995523#M59003</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;that is typical chase ! keep calling back! you will make it&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2015 06:26:25 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/CHASE-freedom-denial/m-p/3995523#M59003</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-05-09T06:26:25Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: CHASE freedom denial!</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/CHASE-freedom-denial/m-p/3995527#M59004</link>
      <description>Yes, Chase is a VERY strange animal. I got declined on 3 apps for Chase. SW, freedom and Marriott. I called once for SW talked to a super cool dude I was able to get approved for 2k that was 4 months ago. After I closed on my mortgage went on a app spree and applied for a few cards including freedom, I was initially declined called to recon then approved for 500 CL (woomp) .. But I still got it! Marriott card was declined even after I called 3 times to recon. I did tho call a few times to feel out the UW tone.. Some of those people hate their jobs and maybe their lives their so rude sometimes. You keep on trying!</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2015 06:36:28 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/CHASE-freedom-denial/m-p/3995527#M59004</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-05-09T06:36:28Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: CHASE freedom denial!</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/CHASE-freedom-denial/m-p/3995545#M59009</link>
      <description>Sorry to hear that, you'll get it!</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2015 06:51:49 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/CHASE-freedom-denial/m-p/3995545#M59009</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-05-09T06:51:49Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: CHASE freedom denial!</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/CHASE-freedom-denial/m-p/3995623#M59031</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/861747"&gt;@meteogeo&lt;/a&gt; wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;Hello guys!&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Here is my story:I applied for Chase Freedom and my application was declined. I called the back door number and I talked with 2 people.The 1st one although she was nice she siad there was nothing that could be done&amp;nbsp;to approve my application and encourage me to reapply in a few months. The 2nd one was initially rude and said that I see that you called 2 hours earlier and talked with &amp;nbsp;blah blah..... I tried to explain him my situation, why I am&amp;nbsp;interested in freedom etc He put me on hold for a while and then came back and said that he still can not approve me.He&amp;nbsp;mentioned the following reasons for declining my application: 1. short credit history, too many accounts open recently and high credit utilization(30%).&lt;FONT color="#FF0000"&gt; I thanked him for trying and hung up.However I am gonna call them again tomorrow and i really hope that I will&amp;nbsp;stay calm during the call cause i have the impression that they did a 2nd pull during the recon... (the 2nd person I talked to said that they pulled EX however today in the afternoon when I logged into my CK account I noticed that they also pulled TU). I am very pissed off cause very clealry I asked him if a recon will result in a new HP and he assured me that it won't. Anyway tomorrow In case they insist on denial or in case they will not remove the 2nd HP&lt;/FONT&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;I will let them&amp;nbsp;know that i will close my checking account with them-something that I will do.(I have&amp;nbsp;set up a direct deposit of my salary there and also my employer (a well known university)has an affiliation with Chase).&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I do not know my fico scores (fako scores CK 643 EQ and 649 TU). Cards: BofA cash rewards 8,000$( 4,000$ CLI 3 days ago with a HP), cap1 platinum 1,500$ (automatic 1000$ CLI on Sunday), Cap1 journey 500$, discover it 1,000$. My first CC was&amp;nbsp;BofA opened in October 2014. (no other type of credit bf that-moved to the US in July 2014).&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;6 inq TU and EX now and 5 EQ, 7 months credit history&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;For the Freedom card they frequently pull EX and TU at the time of application.&amp;nbsp; It may have not shown up for a bit, looking like they did it during recon.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2015 10:29:15 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-05-09T10:29:15Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: CHASE freedom denial!</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/CHASE-freedom-denial/m-p/3995624#M59032</link>
      <description>Every Chase app has resulted in a pull on EX and TU for me. It's not because you recon'd</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2015 10:33:58 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/CHASE-freedom-denial/m-p/3995624#M59032</guid>
      <dc:creator>JSS3</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-05-09T10:33:58Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: CHASE freedom denial!</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/CHASE-freedom-denial/m-p/3995625#M59033</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;i don't think i would&amp;nbsp;apply for anything, ever, without knowing my true fico scores.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;give it a few months (6 months since last app is best), check the prequal and grab your chase card. &amp;nbsp; good luck &amp;nbsp; :]&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2015 10:35:31 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/CHASE-freedom-denial/m-p/3995625#M59033</guid>
      <dc:creator>elim</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-05-09T10:35:31Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: CHASE freedom denial!</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/CHASE-freedom-denial/m-p/3995642#M59035</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/795878"&gt;@elim&lt;/a&gt; wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;i don't think i would&amp;nbsp;apply for anything, ever, without knowing my true fico scores.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;give it a few months (6 months since last app is best), check the prequal and grab your chase card. &amp;nbsp; good luck &amp;nbsp; :]&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;@I agree with &lt;a href="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/795878"&gt;@elim&lt;/a&gt;... What are your FICOs?&amp;nbsp; Also, you have 30 days to recon with Chase so plenty of time to plan a strategy...&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2015 11:04:40 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/CHASE-freedom-denial/m-p/3995642#M59035</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-05-09T11:04:40Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: CHASE freedom denial!</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/CHASE-freedom-denial/m-p/3995693#M59042</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Making threats to close an account because your credit isnt up to their standards is a bad move. Just take some time, work on your profile and try again in 6 months.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Pestering them does not always yield results.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2015 11:56:34 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-05-09T11:56:34Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: CHASE freedom denial!</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/CHASE-freedom-denial/m-p/3995712#M59044</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I have to agree with Numberz. It comes of as petty when you go that route.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Your Credit Karma scores indicate some potential of a deragatory on your reports. Is there any information on that? And as others had said, your FICO scores will help evaluate the situation a bit more.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;A bit of advise from myself is to get on of their other cards that are easier to get first. I had my Amazon Visa for 6 months to get 'in' with Chase. 7 months later I got my Freedom&amp;nbsp;with over twice the limit, and moved half of my Amazon limit over to my Freedom.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2015 12:23:57 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/CHASE-freedom-denial/m-p/3995712#M59044</guid>
      <dc:creator>VinnyVee</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-05-09T12:23:57Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: CHASE freedom denial!</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/CHASE-freedom-denial/m-p/3995719#M59045</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I have a Chase Freedom, it was a double pull: TU and EX. My CK scores were much lower than yours, but they were not real close to my fico. I suggest you order a 3B repot to know where you truly stand.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2015 12:37:36 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-05-09T12:37:36Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: CHASE freedom denial!</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/CHASE-freedom-denial/m-p/3995919#M59090</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/739223"&gt;@JSS3&lt;/a&gt; wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;Every Chase app has resulted in a pull on EX and TU for me. It's not because you recon'd&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;+1&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2015 15:53:47 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-05-09T15:53:47Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: CHASE freedom denial!</title>
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      <description>&lt;P&gt;Same for me. I was double pulled by EX and TU for the Freedom. Luckily my approval was instant.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2015 15:59:02 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Jerry45</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-05-09T15:59:02Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: CHASE freedom denial!</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/CHASE-freedom-denial/m-p/3995927#M59092</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;This may be irrelevant, but I had the same situation with Barclay's last Summer. I was denied for the Arrival after being pre Selected on their old pre qualify site. Did a recon the next day and was given attitude by the Supervisor, after I told her I was not interested in a second HP. Of course they HP'd me anyways with second denial.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Chase pre qual site worked for me and is pretty solid&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2015 16:02:45 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Jerry45</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-05-09T16:02:45Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: CHASE freedom denial!</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/CHASE-freedom-denial/m-p/3996119#M59108</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Thank you guys for your advice! I was thinking that may be it would be better to have my personal banker at my local Chase branch to call them and help me with that-what do u think guys? or I should try once more on my own first?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Btw I called one more time today morning but the person who pesponded was the same who&amp;nbsp;did the recon last time and I hung up. Do you know if there is a recon center in each State or just one that serves the whole US? I was surprised that it happened to be the same person. (I am in San Diego in CA now for a meeting but I am going back to TX tonight so I was thinking that if I call from TX i might be more lucky with the recon center).&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2015 17:44:24 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>meteogeo</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-05-09T17:44:24Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: CHASE freedom denial!</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/CHASE-freedom-denial/m-p/3996130#M59109</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/861747"&gt;@meteogeo&lt;/a&gt; wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;Thank you guys for your advice! I was thinking that may be it would be better to have my personal banker at my local Chase branch to call them and help me with that-what do u think guys? or I should try once more on my own first?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Btw I called one more time today morning but the person who pesponded was the same who&amp;nbsp;did the recon last time and I hung up. Do you know if there is a recon center in each State or just one that serves the whole US? I was surprised that it happened to be the same person. (I am in San Diego in CA now for a meeting but I am going back to TX tonight so I was thinking that if I call from TX i might be more lucky with the recon center).&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;I'd go in a Chase Branch and have the banker call on your behalf. &amp;nbsp;Also, getting the same rep happens once in a blue moon so certainly strage. Remember, they work in shifts. &amp;nbsp;So if you call in the evening, you will get someone else.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;But go in the branch and have the banker call. &amp;nbsp;Will keep fingers crossed for you.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2015 17:48:34 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-05-09T17:48:34Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: CHASE freedom denial!</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/CHASE-freedom-denial/m-p/3996146#M59112</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;GL !&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2015 17:54:43 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-05-09T17:54:43Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: CHASE freedom denial!</title>
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      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Ive been trying to get that chase freedom card myself. I was prequalified for that and the slate on their website but because of my pretty short credit history (2 months) I am hesitant to try for it now.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2015 18:18:26 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>jawbrkr</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-05-09T18:18:26Z</dc:date>
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      <description>&lt;P&gt;That is a tough call. Chase is a very solid prequal. I am surprised they gave you that with only 2 months. Is the 2 months open accounts only, do you have any closed accounts on file?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2015 20:39:08 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Jerry45</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-05-09T20:39:08Z</dc:date>
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      <description>Yeah good luck hopefully it turns out well for you, they can be pretty decent for a recon I've heard but don't get too bent out of shape about the double pull they probably did that from the very beginning, like others have said they commonly do a tu/ex double pull...I was instantly approved for $21k on the csp with scores over 800 and I got the same double pull</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2015 22:21:42 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-05-09T22:21:42Z</dc:date>
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