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    <title>topic Re: Venture or Venture One? in Credit Card Applications</title>
    <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/Venture-or-Venture-One/m-p/4098242#M70479</link>
    <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;@Anonymous wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;Which one to apply for with about 715-718 FICO?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;No baddies&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;AAoA 1.7 years&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;With your score you'll probably get either one.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Except for the opening bonuses, the only issues are (a) whether you're going to use the card enough to justify the modest annual fee of Venture or not and (b) whether you use your points for travel or for cash back. For cash back you get half as much as for travel.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The Venture gives you 2 points per $1 spent, at a cost of a $59 annual fee, while the Venture One gives you 1.25 points per dollar spent with no annual fee.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;So if you were going to spend $6k per year, and use your points for cash, it would play out like this:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Venture $6000 = 12,000 points = $60 cash minus $59 annual fee = +$1.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Venture One $6000 = 7500 points = $37.50 cash = +$37.50&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;But if you were going to spend $12,000 per year it looks a little different:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Venture $12k = 24k points = $120 cash minus $59 annual fee = +$61&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Venture One $12k = 15k points = $75 cash = +$75&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;And if you were going to spend $15k per year you start to see the value of the Venture:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Venture $15k = 30k points = $150 cash minus $59 annual fee = $91&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Venture One $15k = 18750 points = $93.75 = + $93.75&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;And if you were to spend $20k per year:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Venture $20k = 40k points = $200 cash minus $59 annual fee = $141&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Venture One $20k = 25k points = $125 cash = +$125&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Bottom line if you're definitely going to be up in the $20k per year category, you start coming out&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;better with Venture than Venture One.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2015 00:59:13 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>SouthJamaica</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2015-06-29T00:59:13Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Venture or Venture One?</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/Venture-or-Venture-One/m-p/4093961#M70028</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Which one to apply for with about 715-718 FICO?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;No baddies&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;AAoA 1.7 years&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2015 02:51:43 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/Venture-or-Venture-One/m-p/4093961#M70028</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-06-26T02:51:43Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Venture or Venture One?</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/Venture-or-Venture-One/m-p/4093969#M70030</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;also, the pre-qual site doesn't work for me because I have opted out of prescreen offers, so that won't be of any help to try it.. Just fyi, thanks&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2015 02:55:03 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/Venture-or-Venture-One/m-p/4093969#M70030</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-06-26T02:55:03Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Venture or Venture One?</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/Venture-or-Venture-One/m-p/4093971#M70032</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Venture hands down. &amp;nbsp;Why not have at it and get both minutes apart all on the same pull? &amp;nbsp;But if the decision is just 1 card, Venture takes the cake.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2015 02:56:28 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/Venture-or-Venture-One/m-p/4093971#M70032</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-06-26T02:56:28Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Venture or Venture One?</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/Venture-or-Venture-One/m-p/4093981#M70035</link>
      <description>Venture definitely !!!! Higher CL and 2x points. It's basically a no brainer. I had no prequalified offers on ANY lenders websites and I got Cap One QS (5K CL) and Venture (20K CL). With your scores, as long as you haven't burned Cap One recently, you'll be approved for Venture.&lt;BR /&gt;You could try for 2 card's, but be prepared for 6 HP's, 2 across the board for every CA.</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2015 03:00:16 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/Venture-or-Venture-One/m-p/4093981#M70035</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-06-26T03:00:16Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Venture or Venture One?</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/Venture-or-Venture-One/m-p/4094004#M70038</link>
      <description>Venture!</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2015 03:10:44 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/Venture-or-Venture-One/m-p/4094004#M70038</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-06-26T03:10:44Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Venture or Venture One?</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/Venture-or-Venture-One/m-p/4094033#M70045</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Have quite a few cards and never had one fo them ask me for income verification. Income over 100k combined in household. I started a new job recently, so not sure what they would want. Husband is not going to want to verify his info as he has many other very high limit cards and would probably be (rightfully so) annoyed at a card he is not part of asking about his income. Does Venture often ask for this?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2015 03:28:34 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/Venture-or-Venture-One/m-p/4094033#M70045</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-06-26T03:28:34Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Venture or Venture One?</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/Venture-or-Venture-One/m-p/4094036#M70048</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;@Anonymous wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;Have quite a few cards and never had one fo them ask me for income verification. Income over 100k combined in household. I started a new job recently, so not sure what they would want. Husband is not going to want to verify his info as he has many other very high limit cards and would probably be (rightfully so) annoyed at a card he is not part of asking about his income. Does Venture often ask for this?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;Rarely.. If you really want it, go for it.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2015 03:30:27 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/Venture-or-Venture-One/m-p/4094036#M70048</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-06-26T03:30:27Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Venture or Venture One?</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/Venture-or-Venture-One/m-p/4094069#M70061</link>
      <description>Cap One never asked me. I've put down 125K, which any Creditor can confirm thru "the work number". But I haven't had any lender request proof, other than SDFCU, who did request my last two pay stubs. You'll be just fine. Go for it.</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2015 03:51:30 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/Venture-or-Venture-One/m-p/4094069#M70061</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-06-26T03:51:30Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Venture or Venture One?</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/Venture-or-Venture-One/m-p/4094232#M70110</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Venture!&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Just got mine ! With only 1.2years of credit history having only one card&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;got 5k limit less than I hoped for but will do for now hopefully get an increase later on&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2015 06:38:38 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/Venture-or-Venture-One/m-p/4094232#M70110</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-06-26T06:38:38Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Venture or Venture One?</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/Venture-or-Venture-One/m-p/4094240#M70112</link>
      <description>V1 worked better for me $15k right of the back solid bonus offer easy to meet &amp;amp; 0% Apr for a year just in case i need it which the other one doesn't have and no annual fee if that matters to you even if u could pc later on or not</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2015 06:58:01 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/Venture-or-Venture-One/m-p/4094240#M70112</guid>
      <dc:creator>Coolermaster007</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-06-26T06:58:01Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Venture or Venture One?</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/Venture-or-Venture-One/m-p/4094264#M70117</link>
      <description>But the Venture offers 2x the points vs the Venture One which offers 1.5x the points. These Venture cards are granted high CL's because they are anticipating you running large sums thru them. These are Cap One's premier cards. If your going to run $100.00 a month, than the Venture One may be the way to go. However, if you're able to run 1K, 2K, 3K, a month, as an example, than the Venture definitely beats the Venture One handily.</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2015 08:12:12 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/Venture-or-Venture-One/m-p/4094264#M70117</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-06-26T08:12:12Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Venture or Venture One?</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/Venture-or-Venture-One/m-p/4094297#M70121</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Are your FICO scores from FICO 8 or a previous score? &amp;nbsp;Capital One tends to use previous bankcard or mortgage scores.&amp;nbsp; I qualified for Venture 1 but made the mistake of waiting a week to apply for Venture and by that time since I had been on an app spree my FICO 8 score for EQ had not changed but my FICO 5 had and they pointed to that score as reason to turn me down.&amp;nbsp; So as others have said, if you apply for both, do it back to back.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2015 11:01:10 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/Venture-or-Venture-One/m-p/4094297#M70121</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-06-26T11:01:10Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Venture or Venture One?</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/Venture-or-Venture-One/m-p/4094303#M70122</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Good luck! Let us know wht you decide.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;In my wallet: Capital One (secured) 1917; Quicksilver 5000; Venture 15,000; Barclay Apple Rewards 2000; CareCredit 3300; Bank of America Platinum Visa 2000; Bank of America Travel Rewards 3500; Bank of America Travel Rewards 3500; Amazon Store Card 5000; Discover 10,000. Total Credit: 51,217.&lt;BR /&gt;6/19-FICO: EQ - 782; TU - 769; EX - 681; GOAL: 780 across the board. Gardening until further notice.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2015 11:15:03 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/Venture-or-Venture-One/m-p/4094303#M70122</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-06-26T11:15:03Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Venture or Venture One?</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/Venture-or-Venture-One/m-p/4095491#M70208</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Venture all the way. I have seen people get as high initial CL as 50 k on this card. I got 20k CL when I applied earlier this year.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2015 00:14:51 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/Venture-or-Venture-One/m-p/4095491#M70208</guid>
      <dc:creator>morgacj2004</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-06-27T00:14:51Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Venture or Venture One?</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/Venture-or-Venture-One/m-p/4095551#M70211</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;OP, Any update?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2015 00:46:43 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/Venture-or-Venture-One/m-p/4095551#M70211</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-06-27T00:46:43Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Venture or Venture One?</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/Venture-or-Venture-One/m-p/4095666#M70219</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;According to other websites, if you spend over 8 grand a year, you basically should get the Venture.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2015 01:52:26 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/Venture-or-Venture-One/m-p/4095666#M70219</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-06-27T01:52:26Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Venture or Venture One?</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/Venture-or-Venture-One/m-p/4096121#M70286</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Thanks for all of the input, everyone. I won't be applying until mid-JUly as I need to give about 8k in recent cli's and 1700 in payments &amp;nbsp;a chance to report first on my other cards. Will let you know how it goes.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2015 13:29:44 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/Venture-or-Venture-One/m-p/4096121#M70286</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-06-27T13:29:44Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Venture or Venture One?</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/Venture-or-Venture-One/m-p/4097278#M70408</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;@Anonymous wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;Which one to apply for with about 715-718 FICO?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;No baddies&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;AAoA 1.7 years&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;I know you've already had plenty of folks offer their thoughts, but I'm "chiming in" as well since my scores/stats are similar to yours.&amp;nbsp; My current FAKO is currently hovering 705-725, and last month I got an Experian FICO that was 695.&amp;nbsp; I have two baddies that will age off next spring, and my AAoA is around 5 years.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;A few months ago I got a new QuickSilver Visa Signature with $5k, 17.9% after the promo.&amp;nbsp; A few days ago for 'kicks' I went to the pre-qualification site to see what it would say, and it shows I'm pre-qualed for both Venture and (another) QuickSilver Visa at 17.9%, or a 'Plain-Jane' Platinum Mastercard at 15.9%.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Keep in mind that Venture SLs seem to be almost always higher than QuickSilver lines, and I only report a modest income (&amp;lt;$50K) so your offer will likely be more attractive than mine, especially since you have no baddies at all.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Also, regarding the Venture One card, it's seriously 'nerfed' compared to not only the Venture, but also the QuickSilver if you're chasing rewards.&amp;nbsp; Of particular note is the Venture One's reward rate of 1.25 miles per dollar vs. Venture's 2 miles.&amp;nbsp; Most people also agree that the QuickSilver is better than the Venture One not only because the rewards rate is higher (QS 1.5% vs. VenOne 1.25% effective rate) but with the QuickSilver you can get cash to spend as you please, while the Venture One miles must be presented against travel charges for full redemption value (some people redeem the miles for gift cards, but there's no 'hoops' at all for the QS).&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;All this being said, since the Venture/Venture One cards seem to get significantly higher starting credit lines for most folks, that alone might be enough to sway your decision.&amp;nbsp; It's always possible that you could get the Venture One for the (hopefully) higher initial credit line, then eventually PC to a QuickSilver at some point in the future, but as everything with Capital One, nothing is guaranteed, and the only certainty is YMMV.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Hope this helps!&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2015 10:31:10 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/Venture-or-Venture-One/m-p/4097278#M70408</guid>
      <dc:creator>UncleB</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-06-28T10:31:10Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Venture or Venture One?</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Applications/Venture-or-Venture-One/m-p/4097440#M70422</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Thanks Uncle for your thoughts. I already do have a &amp;nbsp;Quicksilver so I am good to go in that respect. I will most likely app for the regular Venture based on the feedback listed ehre. I just was not initially sure if regular venture required a higher FICO score in order to be successful, but the information has helped.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2015 15:12:16 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-06-28T15:12:16Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Venture or Venture One?</title>
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      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;@Anonymous wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;Thanks Uncle for your thoughts. I already do have a &amp;nbsp;Quicksilver so I am good to go in that respect. I will most likely app for the regular Venture based on the feedback listed ehre. I just was not initially sure if regular venture required a higher FICO score in order to be successful, but the information has helped.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;I would say too, aside from what I said above about your yearly spend being above $7800 to make the Venture the best choice, you would consider the min spend required for the sign up bonus.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Can you spend $3000 in 3 months from applying to get the $400&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;OR&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Would you spend $1000 in 3 months from applying to get the $200&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The ventureone also has a potentially lower APR of 11.9 vs the Ventures 12.9.....&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I would say if you have any chance of being able to hit the min spend for the venture, get it. And even if in the next 2 years you cant run 8 grand through the card, then the second year ask them to waive the annual fee.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2015 19:30:47 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-06-28T19:30:47Z</dc:date>
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