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    <title>topic Re: Score drop w loan payoff in Personal Finance</title>
    <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Personal-Finance/Score-drop-w-loan-payoff/m-p/6846359#M265192</link>
    <description>&lt;P&gt;The point where interest rates matter is with mid to&amp;nbsp;extended loans.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;If you plan to acquire the shortest term possible, securing the lowest rate possible, and prepaying down the loan as quickly as possible, they don't earn much in interest.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;When all possible, strive for those repayment methods.&amp;nbsp; But, with any significant change in debt occurs, or elimination of one, always expect a score reduction at least short term.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2025 19:16:18 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>Realist</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2025-11-09T19:16:18Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Score drop w loan payoff</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Personal-Finance/Score-drop-w-loan-payoff/m-p/6845609#M265135</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Today my FICO score dropped a whopping 34 points after my auto loan updated as paid off.&amp;nbsp;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Original loan was ~60k, got totaled and paid off at $19k left.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I have open student loans and open personal loans. I thought this penalty only happened with no open installment loans?&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;This is upsetting, I need a new car and I am car shopping right now.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 02 Nov 2025 16:40:50 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Personal-Finance/Score-drop-w-loan-payoff/m-p/6845609#M265135</guid>
      <dc:creator>JustKeepSwmng</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2025-11-02T16:40:50Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Score drop w loan payoff</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Personal-Finance/Score-drop-w-loan-payoff/m-p/6845841#M265148</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;So have gone through many many threads. Still can't find a reason for this. I had been monitoring scores daily because am actively paying down utilization.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;- One thought is my student loans are consolidated and deferred. Maybe they stop counting??&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;- That doesn't explain thoguht the $25k personal loan that is open and reporting&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;No negatives/baddies on any of my bureaus and they all took a 33-37 point hit on FICO 8&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2025 17:17:03 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Personal-Finance/Score-drop-w-loan-payoff/m-p/6845841#M265148</guid>
      <dc:creator>JustKeepSwmng</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2025-11-04T17:17:03Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Score drop w loan payoff</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Personal-Finance/Score-drop-w-loan-payoff/m-p/6845848#M265149</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hmm.&amp;nbsp; Looks like you got the full penalty too.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;What are the original loan amount and current balance on the $25K personal loan?&amp;nbsp; Which FI is the loan from?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Also are you a member of Navy FCU or Penfed?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2025 18:42:37 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Personal-Finance/Score-drop-w-loan-payoff/m-p/6845848#M265149</guid>
      <dc:creator>Patient957</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2025-11-04T18:42:37Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Score drop w loan payoff</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Personal-Finance/Score-drop-w-loan-payoff/m-p/6845917#M265153</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Right seems like full penalty.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;auto loan that was paid off is BOA&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;personal loan is a credit union, it's newer- 3 months reporting going on 4th. At about 90%&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I just became a NFCU member last week but have no products yet.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2025 03:08:59 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Personal-Finance/Score-drop-w-loan-payoff/m-p/6845917#M265153</guid>
      <dc:creator>JustKeepSwmng</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2025-11-05T03:08:59Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Score drop w loan payoff</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Personal-Finance/Score-drop-w-loan-payoff/m-p/6845951#M265157</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/1093414"&gt;@JustKeepSwmng&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;Right seems like full penalty.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;auto loan that was paid off is BOA&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;personal loan is a credit union, it's newer- 3 months reporting going on 4th. At about 90%&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I just became a NFCU member last week but have no products yet.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;A personal loan from a credit union should count as an open installment loan.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;When I paid off my last open installment loan in 2023, I got the penalty, -32 points.&amp;nbsp; I got this reason code from MyFico:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-center" image-alt="IMG_20251105_041721.jpg" style="width: 852px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/96611iAB57B08C2FCA0520/image-size/large?v=v2&amp;amp;px=999" role="button" title="IMG_20251105_041721.jpg" alt="IMG_20251105_041721.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;You can take a look at your MF account and see if you got this reason code, or &lt;STRONG&gt;any&lt;/STRONG&gt; new reason codes.&amp;nbsp; That would give a clue about what's going on.&amp;nbsp; Did you get any new reason codes on MF?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Maybe this is because your B/L ratio increased when your nearly paid off auto loan got paid off.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2025 12:29:13 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Personal-Finance/Score-drop-w-loan-payoff/m-p/6845951#M265157</guid>
      <dc:creator>Patient957</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2025-11-05T12:29:13Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Score drop w loan payoff</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Personal-Finance/Score-drop-w-loan-payoff/m-p/6846028#M265160</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Yes I think it's the B/L change. Because the new loan is at high % and the one that was 30% got paid off instantly.&amp;nbsp;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The MF has a reason code of high loan balances.&amp;nbsp;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Had no idea that was a 30+ point risk. Now I see why some people take a larger loan to pay a portion immediately.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2025 18:01:19 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Personal-Finance/Score-drop-w-loan-payoff/m-p/6846028#M265160</guid>
      <dc:creator>JustKeepSwmng</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2025-11-05T18:01:19Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Score drop w loan payoff</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Personal-Finance/Score-drop-w-loan-payoff/m-p/6846032#M265162</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/1093414"&gt;@JustKeepSwmng&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;wrote:&lt;P&gt;Had no idea that was a 30+ point risk.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;I didn't either.&amp;nbsp; Looks like a high B/L is just as bad as no installment loan at all.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2025 18:16:33 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Personal-Finance/Score-drop-w-loan-payoff/m-p/6846032#M265162</guid>
      <dc:creator>Patient957</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2025-11-05T18:16:33Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Score drop w loan payoff</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Personal-Finance/Score-drop-w-loan-payoff/m-p/6846076#M265175</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Welcome to the real world of credit. There are many of us that have experienced similar credit point reductions when a mortgage or installment loan is paid off.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;In my case it was 22 point reduction on an installment loan. When I paid off the mortgage it was a much larger amount (can not remember how much).&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The whole world of credit reminds me of a pinball game!&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2025 10:13:34 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Personal-Finance/Score-drop-w-loan-payoff/m-p/6846076#M265175</guid>
      <dc:creator>TrapLine</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2025-11-06T10:13:34Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Score drop w loan payoff</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Personal-Finance/Score-drop-w-loan-payoff/m-p/6846359#M265192</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;The point where interest rates matter is with mid to&amp;nbsp;extended loans.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;If you plan to acquire the shortest term possible, securing the lowest rate possible, and prepaying down the loan as quickly as possible, they don't earn much in interest.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;When all possible, strive for those repayment methods.&amp;nbsp; But, with any significant change in debt occurs, or elimination of one, always expect a score reduction at least short term.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2025 19:16:18 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Personal-Finance/Score-drop-w-loan-payoff/m-p/6846359#M265192</guid>
      <dc:creator>Realist</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2025-11-09T19:16:18Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Score drop w loan payoff</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Personal-Finance/Score-drop-w-loan-payoff/m-p/6847309#M265227</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Just give it a little time. It should bounce right back...&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2025 23:36:08 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Personal-Finance/Score-drop-w-loan-payoff/m-p/6847309#M265227</guid>
      <dc:creator>Jessie</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2025-11-17T23:36:08Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Score drop w loan payoff</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Personal-Finance/Score-drop-w-loan-payoff/m-p/6847366#M265230</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/1201488"&gt;@Jessie&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;Just give it a little time. It should bounce right back...&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;Mine never completly returned as I did not have an installment or mortgage loan. Remember, the credit reporting is looking for some debt not a clean slate. For a long time I had no debt and my scores never hit the maximum. As soon as I took on a mortgage I reached Fico 08 850 and sat there for five years. It is a game!&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2025 08:25:02 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Personal-Finance/Score-drop-w-loan-payoff/m-p/6847366#M265230</guid>
      <dc:creator>TrapLine</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2025-11-18T08:25:02Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Score drop w loan payoff</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Personal-Finance/Score-drop-w-loan-payoff/m-p/6847368#M265231</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;My scores are still recovering when I paid off my pickup back in April.&amp;nbsp; TU and EQ recovered for the post part, but EX is still way down.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2025 10:40:21 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Personal-Finance/Score-drop-w-loan-payoff/m-p/6847368#M265231</guid>
      <dc:creator>MarkintheHV</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2025-11-18T10:40:21Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Score drop w loan payoff</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Personal-Finance/Score-drop-w-loan-payoff/m-p/6854244#M265600</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/1177359"&gt;@TrapLine&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;Welcome to the real world of credit. There are many of us that have experienced similar credit point reductions when a mortgage or installment loan is paid off.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;In my case it was 22 point reduction on an installment loan. When I paid off the mortgage it was a much larger amount (can not remember how much).&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The whole world of credit reminds me of a pinball game!&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;It rewards owing banks a lot of money. Be proud you own your home and there are no more payments and you don't have to be paranoid about your FICO score when your lease is coming up and you might need a new landlord.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;My FICO score is only 700 tops right now and that's EQ. I'd give up 100 points to own a house and not have to ever pass a credit check for somewhere to live again. I'd give up the whole thing for that. They could make my score 350 and that would be a good trade.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2026 02:13:32 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Personal-Finance/Score-drop-w-loan-payoff/m-p/6854244#M265600</guid>
      <dc:creator>AndrewF</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2026-01-23T02:13:32Z</dc:date>
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