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    <title>topic Re: Which NADA value is used when refinancing? in Auto Loans</title>
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    <description>&lt;P&gt;Well that's good since I am hoping to refinance with them!&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;thanks!&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2015 03:38:46 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>Santi78342</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2015-02-09T03:38:46Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Which NADA value is used when refinancing?</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Auto-Loans/Which-NADA-value-is-used-when-refinancing/m-p/3784333#M49128</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I am hoping to refinance my car in the future. I need to get it under the 120% LTV threshold first though. Do they use the clean retail value?&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2015 00:23:16 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Santi78342</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-02-07T00:23:16Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Which NADA value is used when refinancing?</title>
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      <description>Depends on the lender I think but for DCU they use clean retail.</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2015 02:00:05 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Ragelog</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-02-09T02:00:05Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Which NADA value is used when refinancing?</title>
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      <description>&lt;P&gt;Well that's good since I am hoping to refinance with them!&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;thanks!&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2015 03:38:46 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Santi78342</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-02-09T03:38:46Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Which NADA value is used when refinancing?</title>
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      <description>&lt;P&gt;I am ignorant about auto values. &amp;nbsp;How does NADA values compare with Kelly Blue Book? &amp;nbsp;Is NADA the one most lenders use? &amp;nbsp;Also these days are you usually permitted to finance like 110% or 125% of the value or is it like 80%, 90% or 100%?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I hear a lot about auto dealers rolling negative equity into new loans but I don't understand how it works.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;When I bought my last car I had to put down 10% or something. &amp;nbsp;It was a Cap 1 blank check loan (pre-BK7 a few years). &amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2015 03:55:02 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>CH-7-Mission-Accomplished</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-02-09T03:55:02Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Which NADA value is used when refinancing?</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Auto-Loans/Which-NADA-value-is-used-when-refinancing/m-p/3788855#M49188</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Not sure about the first two questions but it seems most credit unions will finance up to 120% LTV.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2015 04:40:37 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Santi78342</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-02-09T04:40:37Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Which NADA value is used when refinancing?</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Auto-Loans/Which-NADA-value-is-used-when-refinancing/m-p/3788892#M49189</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/813318"&gt;@CH-7-Mission-Accomplished&lt;/a&gt; wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;I am ignorant about auto values. &amp;nbsp;How does NADA values compare with Kelly Blue Book? &amp;nbsp;Is NADA the one most lenders use? &amp;nbsp;Also these days are you usually permitted to finance like 110% or 125% of the value or is it like 80%, 90% or 100%?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I hear a lot about auto dealers rolling negative equity into new loans but I don't understand how it works.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;When I bought my last car I had to put down 10% or something. &amp;nbsp;It was a Cap 1 blank check loan (pre-BK7 a few years). &amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;The NADA book is what's used by &amp;nbsp;the vast majority of lenders bad typically has values lower than Kelly Blue Book which is not used that much in the auto financing world. &amp;nbsp;In 17 years in the auto business I never saw one at all. &amp;nbsp;Another book that is used the Black Book which most dealers use to determine trade in value. &amp;nbsp;The values in the Black Book are based on what similar vehicles are selling for at wholesale auctions.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Rolling in negative equity is very simple. &amp;nbsp;Let's assume you owe $14,000 and the trade in value is $12,000. &amp;nbsp;That means you have negative equity of $2,000. You are about to purchase a new car that has a MSRP of $25,000 and thru negotiations you have brought the price down to $21,000. &amp;nbsp;The dealer will then roll in your negative equity and your effective price for the new car is $23,000. &amp;nbsp;That way you're still below the value of what the financing company will approve. &amp;nbsp;The percentage of LTV varies depending on new vs used and what finance company is being used and your overall credit.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Hope this helps.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2015 05:00:49 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-02-09T05:00:49Z</dc:date>
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