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    <title>topic How Much Does the Down Payment Help ? in Auto Loans</title>
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    <description>&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;So Penfed denied me...but when they did they did not know the kind of car or how much I was going to put down.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;If I tell them I am getting a 63k car and putting down 30k....do you think that will make any difference ?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;That is a huge down payment&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2015 20:05:27 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>Andy77</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2015-07-17T20:05:27Z</dc:date>
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      <title>How Much Does the Down Payment Help ?</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Auto-Loans/How-Much-Does-the-Down-Payment-Help/m-p/4134525#M56172</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;So Penfed denied me...but when they did they did not know the kind of car or how much I was going to put down.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;If I tell them I am getting a 63k car and putting down 30k....do you think that will make any difference ?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;That is a huge down payment&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2015 20:05:27 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Andy77</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-07-17T20:05:27Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: How Much Does the Down Payment Help ?</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Auto-Loans/How-Much-Does-the-Down-Payment-Help/m-p/4135317#M56194</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/64369"&gt;@Andy77&lt;/a&gt; wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;So Penfed denied me...but when they did they did not know the kind of car or how much I was going to put down.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;If I tell them I am getting a 63k car and putting down 30k....do you think that will make any difference ?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;That is a huge down payment&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;IMO a near 50% DP could swing it for you its worth the try.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2015 00:41:58 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>gdale6</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-07-18T00:41:58Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: How Much Does the Down Payment Help ?</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Auto-Loans/How-Much-Does-the-Down-Payment-Help/m-p/4136670#M56229</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/763931"&gt;@gdale6&lt;/a&gt; wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/64369"&gt;@Andy77&lt;/a&gt; wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;So Penfed denied me...but when they did they did not know the kind of car or how much I was going to put down.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;If I tell them I am getting a 63k car and putting down 30k....do you think that will make any difference ?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;That is a huge down payment&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color="#ff0000"&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;IMO a near 50% DP could swing it for you its worth the try.&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;Ditto to this. Money talks.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2015 20:12:52 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>MarineVietVet</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-07-18T20:12:52Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: How Much Does the Down Payment Help ?</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Auto-Loans/How-Much-Does-the-Down-Payment-Help/m-p/4136944#M56233</link>
      <description>Worth a try. A couple if years ago I was putting nearly two thirds down on one of my vehicles. My main bank turned me down! Lol&lt;BR /&gt;Hopefully Penfed has someone with common sense issuing loans. PenFed will get my next auto loan. Great company to deal with.&lt;BR /&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2015 23:17:00 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Gmood1</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-07-18T23:17:00Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: How Much Does the Down Payment Help ?</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Auto-Loans/How-Much-Does-the-Down-Payment-Help/m-p/4139134#M56286</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I think it really depends on the bank. Some (like PNC and DCU) just care about the loan amount, some others (Cap One and Audi FS) takes down payment into consideration.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2015 10:57:51 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-07-20T10:57:51Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: How Much Does the Down Payment Help ?</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Auto-Loans/How-Much-Does-the-Down-Payment-Help/m-p/4139286#M56289</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/64369"&gt;@Andy77&lt;/a&gt; wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;So Penfed denied me...but when they did they did not know the kind of car or how much I was going to put down.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;If I tell them I am getting a 63k car and putting down 30k....do you think that will make any difference ?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;That is a huge down payment&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;Yes, down payments make a difference. BUT regarding your penfed application, it depends on your decline reason.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Down payments help with application factors like DTI and LTV. But they don't help with your credit score. So, it really depends on why you were denied. I suggest waiting for the notice of adverse action, or calling an underwriter to find out why you were not approved before you proceed with another application. There is a chance you can get a manuel review, change the collateral on the application directly with the underwriter, which means you don't have to apply and take another inq.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2015 14:14:24 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>SamsungHDTV</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-07-20T14:14:24Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: How Much Does the Down Payment Help ?</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Auto-Loans/How-Much-Does-the-Down-Payment-Help/m-p/4141320#M56325</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/64369"&gt;@Andy77&lt;/a&gt; wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;So Penfed denied me...but when they did they did not know the kind of car &lt;EM&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;or how much I was going to put down&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/EM&gt;.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;If I tell them I am getting a 63k car and putting down 30k....do you think that will make any difference ?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;That is a huge down payment&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;Did you ask for the full 63k then?&amp;nbsp; I've gone through PenFED (as well as NFCU, and USAA) multiple times and don't recall their application requesting how much of a down payment I plan to put down.&amp;nbsp; Correct me if I'm wrong, all they ask for is the total amount you want.&amp;nbsp; I've never had any issues with loans up to 50k for the three lenders above.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Looking over your other posts, besides 40k of 60k available credit used (66.7% utilization), what's your DTI?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2015 10:09:41 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Hoya08</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-07-21T10:09:41Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: How Much Does the Down Payment Help ?</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Auto-Loans/How-Much-Does-the-Down-Payment-Help/m-p/4154199#M56515</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;This is where working with the dealer finance guys help. They work with lenders all the time (first name basis with alot of them) and LTV is a huge factor. You are putting up 50% of the value, so worse case, they are only on the hook for $30k on a $63k car if they have to pick it up (lol).&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;In 2001 my credit was bad, but I bought a new truck (think it was $39k). I put down $10k and I got the rate I wanted. I was a lower risk, even with the credit because their exposure was less (and the collateral was new too)&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Yall are making me wanna go look at new cars today, all these apps/approval posts about cars, lol&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2015 14:15:17 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-07-28T14:15:17Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: How Much Does the Down Payment Help ?</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Auto-Loans/How-Much-Does-the-Down-Payment-Help/m-p/4155640#M56542</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/64369"&gt;@Andy77&lt;/a&gt; wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;So Penfed denied me...but when they did they did not know the kind of car or how much I was going to put down.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;If I tell them I am getting a 63k car and putting down 30k....do you think that will make any difference ?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;That is a huge down payment&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;How much recent auto loan experience do you have? &amp;nbsp;I had absolutely none and my own (previous) CU wouldn't approve me without a co-signer even with a large downpayment. &amp;nbsp;I was able to get financed through the dealership with no money down ($25K).&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2015 03:18:01 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>2b2rich</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-07-29T03:18:01Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: How Much Does the Down Payment Help ?</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Auto-Loans/How-Much-Does-the-Down-Payment-Help/m-p/4159480#M56627</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/59259"&gt;@2b2rich&lt;/a&gt; wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/64369"&gt;@Andy77&lt;/a&gt; wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;So Penfed denied me...but when they did they did not know the kind of car or how much I was going to put down.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;If I tell them I am getting a 63k car and putting down 30k....do you think that will make any difference ?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;That is a huge down payment&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color="#ff0000"&gt;How much recent auto loan experience do you have? &amp;nbsp;I had absolutely none and my own (previous) CU wouldn't approve me without a co-signer&lt;FONT color="#0000ff"&gt; even with a large downpayment&lt;/FONT&gt;. &amp;nbsp;I was able to get financed through the dealership with no money down ($25K).&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Yep... sometimes a large down payment can't offset the lack of an auto history... and in my case an auto history can offset the lack of a down payment.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I had 2 previous loans... a $12k loan from 2008&amp;nbsp;paid in 2013 and a new $22k&amp;nbsp;loan from 2013 to 2015.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;My $22k lender refused to go higher than $28k on a new loan back in January... so I went to a different CU and got a $40k loan on a new Challenger...&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;... with $0 down.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;What can I say... I didn't feel like putting down $5k just to save $60 a month on my payment.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;EQ Auto FICO was 709... I had a few denials for "insufficient down payment" but I still secured the loan at 4.49% which I plan to refi in the next few months once everything related to my Ch 13 falls off my reports and I get a nice score boost.&amp;nbsp;I plan to refi with BECU... the same lender on my previous loan.&amp;nbsp; They wouldn't approve this loan but seeing a 700+ score as well as a year of payments on this loan should make for an easy refi to 1.99%... their best rate.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2015 17:21:22 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>TRC_WA</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-07-31T17:21:22Z</dc:date>
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