topic Re: Deleted bankruptcy effect on Fico score in Bankruptcy

Deleted bankruptcy

Anonymous — Tue, 25 Mar 2008 16:06:28 GMT

How much does your score improve after a bankruptcy is off your credit report?

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Anonymous — Tue, 25 Mar 2008 19:39:33 GMT

Good Question! I'd like to know this too!

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Anonymous — Fri, 28 Mar 2008 23:21:53 GMT

It doesn't. After your BK is removed you are grouped with others who haven't filed BK, so your FICO will go down. The sooner you started rebuilding credit after your discharge, the softer the blow.

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Anonymous — Mon, 31 Mar 2008 21:46:12 GMT

FaircreditguyFL -

Won't it improve at all? If you have re-established credit after your discharge, and the 7 years ticks by and finally the BK drops off, surely your scores will improve, as you won't be showing a "serious delinquency or collection or public record." Doesn't that make sense? Or am I missing something?

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George2037 — Tue, 01 Apr 2008 11:55:31 GMT

laurenjane wrote:
FaircreditguyFL -

Won't it improve at all? If you have re-established credit after your discharge, and the 7 years ticks by and finally the BK drops off, surely your scores will improve, as you won't be showing a "serious delinquency or collection or public record." Doesn't that make sense? Or am I missing something?

Public records in general don't effect your score after 2 years. It would be safe to say that a BK would be in the same catagory. Basicly FICO see's a public record's closing date, it doesn't get into specifics on what it's for or how much it was for, just that is was settled/ closed on xx/xx date.

The part to look forward to is once the BK falls off, the unfriendly BK lenders will be freindly to you once again.....

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Anonymous — Tue, 01 Apr 2008 20:08:33 GMT

It goes down........

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Anonymous — Tue, 01 Apr 2008 21:43:46 GMT

Any thoughts on why it would go down? If anything, it'd seem as though it'd stay the same. Very strange for it to go down, but then again, maybe it's one of the mysteries of credit reporting...

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Anonymous — Tue, 01 Apr 2008 22:00:26 GMT

that stinks...

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Anonymous — Tue, 01 Apr 2008 23:18:41 GMT

That doesn't seem right... It should go up...

Has anyone pulled their credit right after a BK was removed from their credit report who can verify this?

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Creditaddict — Wed, 02 Apr 2008 18:05:32 GMT

Poster is right, after BK comes off you go down. Right now your score is simulated based on how you perform compared to others that have filed BK. When BK drops off, you are put back into that group of people that have NEVER filed bk and never have been late and all that stuff. Most likely your file isn't going to be quite as strong as theres especially if you have not been rebuilding.

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Anonymous — Thu, 03 Apr 2008 18:53:56 GMT

Hi everyone,

It would seem though that any accounts you had with lates or collections "included in the BK" would fall off the same time (or most likely earlier) than the BK, so therefore, you wouldn't have any lates or public records showing (as long as you didn't have any after the BK filing as you were rebuilding credit). So technically, your score shouldn't go down -- if you were then put on a level playing field with others with no BKs or public records or lates, right? This is assuming during the time between discharge and the BK dropping off you've re-established credit, increasing credit limits over time, keeping balances at a reasonable utilization, maybe taken out a car loan or mortgage, etc.

My Ch. 13 BK was just discharged 2/08 (filed 10/04), but during the BK, I re-established credit with a student loan, two unsecured loans with Prosper (installment), a Dell account and an unsecured Household Bank account (revolving) that is now up to $1000 limit (started at $300). My car is paid off, so no auto loan yet, and I am looking at a mortgage hopefully in about 6 months. I also have a credit union LOC for $1000 and an Orchard Bank visa ($750 limit). I am hoping to increase the LOC and credit cards within 6 mos (hoping to have mid score over 700). I have no lates. All negative info is from BK or accounts included in BK.

I guess my question is that once my BK falls off in 10/2011 (another long 3+ years ), if I've "kept my nose clean" from now until then, how can my score go down? I appreciate any thoughts...

EXP 623 3/25/08

EQFX 616 3/25/08

TU 564 3/25/08

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Anonymous — Thu, 03 Apr 2008 19:36:36 GMT

laurenjane wrote:
Hi everyone,

It would seem though that any accounts you had with lates or collections "included in the BK" would fall off the same time (or most likely earlier) than the BK, so therefore, you wouldn't have any lates or public records showing (as long as you didn't have any after the BK filing as you were rebuilding credit). So technically, your score shouldn't go down -- if you were then put on a level playing field with others with no BKs or public records or lates, right? This is assuming during the time between discharge and the BK dropping off you've re-established credit, increasing credit limits over time, keeping balances at a reasonable utilization, maybe taken out a car loan or mortgage, etc.

My Ch. 13 BK was just discharged 2/08 (filed 10/04), but during the BK, I re-established credit with a student loan, two unsecured loans with Prosper (installment), a Dell account and an unsecured Household Bank account (revolving) that is now up to $1000 limit (started at $300). My car is paid off, so no auto loan yet, and I am looking at a mortgage hopefully in about 6 months. I also have a credit union LOC for $1000 and an Orchard Bank visa ($750 limit). I am hoping to increase the LOC and credit cards within 6 mos (hoping to have mid score over 700). I have no lates. All negative info is from BK or accounts included in BK.

I guess my question is that once my BK falls off in 10/2011 (another long 3+ years ), if I've "kept my nose clean" from now until then, how can my score go down? I appreciate any thoughts...

EXP       623 3/25/08
EQFX    616 3/25/08
TU         564 3/25/08

Exactly what I did ... CH-13 filed 2000... discharged 2003. When BK and all derogs included with it fell off last Sept my score went up 80 points to 777. It now stands 6 months later at 800 on EQ, 793 EX, and 787 TU.

I didn't need but a couple CC's, my mortgage, my HELOC, and a very brief car loan to accomplish this. And of course paying on time all the time between then and now. I also only applied for credit that I actually needed and used. I'm a firm believer in the KISS method.

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Anonymous — Thu, 03 Apr 2008 23:51:20 GMT

kimmerzz -

How old is your oldest tradeline and about what is your avg. age? Those scores are great and I am wondering how old your credit is...............

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Anonymous — Thu, 03 Apr 2008 23:52:17 GMT

laurenjane - Everything you said sounds good. Except I hear that EQ does not remove ANY bk's prior to 10 years, including chapter 13's.......just thought I'd let you know.

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Anonymous — Fri, 04 Apr 2008 00:55:57 GMT

Boscoe wrote:
kimmerzz -

How old is your oldest tradeline and about what is your avg. age? Those scores are great and I am wondering how old your credit is...............

I got lucky with my oldest TL... it's a line of credit attached to my checking account that I opened 17 yrs ago and still going strong, which they faithfully report every month. CU's are great! My average age of accounts is 7yrs. I had 1 CC from 93 that remained after filing which started out at 3500 and is now over 10k. I accepted an offer from Cap1 for a 7500 CC in 03 (after reading about them here I can't believe it was for that amount) Bought a car in 04 and paid it off 6 months later. In 05 I did a cashout refinance at 5.25%. In 06 I opened a HELOC. After everything did drop off, I did accept a pre approved from Chase and received a 14k CC. I don't need a lotta cards... too much hassle. Basically I did just fine with those 2 cards I had for those 7 years. But it was nice when all that trash dropped off!

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Anonymous — Mon, 07 Apr 2008 21:05:23 GMT

Thanks Boscoe,

I wasn't really counting on anyone removing them prior to the 10 year mark -- although my Ch. 13 should be 7 years from the filing date, isn't that correct? So it should fall off about 10/2011? That's kinda frustrating if EQ leaves it on there another 3 years....

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Anonymous — Tue, 08 Apr 2008 01:38:20 GMT

I have heard this, but you may want to call EQ and ask yourself....the other option is to dispute it one month after it goes 7 years.....

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Anonymous — Tue, 08 Apr 2008 02:49:53 GMT

Your scores will go down. For those in the back row, YOUR SCORES WILL GO DOWN!

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Junejer — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 01:35:51 GMT

The reason why one's scores might go down is b/c you will be rebucketed. The good news is that your scores should recover relatively quickly (provided you have established credit in the meantime), like a few months or even less in some instances.

BK7 lasts for 10 years (also BK11, BK 12). BK13 lasts for seven years, unless it was dismissed, then it lasts for 10 years.

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Anonymous — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 04:33:37 GMT

My bankruptcy is off this May 2008. My score has ranged between 600-694 the past two years. As long as your payments are made on time and you try to make over the minimum, your score will increase. I have not had one late payment or missed a payment in over 10 years. I am positive that once my bankruptcy is off next month that my score will go even higher! The only reason it's not higher right now is because I have too many cards open. I plan on paying off over half of them over the next 6 months.