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    <title>topic Re: Need advise for Amex application for Jan 2015 in Credit Cards</title>
    <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Need-advise-for-Amex-application-for-Jan-2015/m-p/3698946#M1014219</link>
    <description>&lt;P&gt;Thanks for the advise. &lt;img id="smileyhappy" class="emoticon emoticon-smileyhappy" src="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif" alt="Smiley Happy" title="Smiley Happy" /&gt;&amp;nbsp; I had a feeling that was what would be advised.&amp;nbsp; Oh well ...at least I got in and my MSD date will be in &amp;nbsp;2014.&amp;nbsp; Never thought I could become addicted to applying for credit &lt;img id="smileyfrustrated" class="emoticon emoticon-smileyfrustrated" src="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-frustrated.gif" alt="Smiley Frustrated" title="Smiley Frustrated" /&gt;&amp;nbsp; Need to go find a corner and cold turkey for at least a year &lt;img id="womansad" class="emoticon emoticon-womansad" src="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/i/smilies/16x16_woman-sad.gif" alt="Woman Sad" title="Woman Sad" /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Sat, 20 Dec 2014 19:01:54 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>Guinness</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2014-12-20T19:01:54Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Need advise for Amex application for Jan 2015</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Need-advise-for-Amex-application-for-Jan-2015/m-p/3698890#M1014205</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Happy Holidays and Merry Christmas everyone!&amp;nbsp; Due to this wonderful forum I have gone from a starting FICO of low 600 to a TU score of 746 amd EX score of 749 &lt;img id="smileyvery-happy" class="emoticon emoticon-smileyvery-happy" src="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif" alt="Smiley Very Happy" title="Smiley Very Happy" /&gt;&amp;nbsp; EQ is still&amp;nbsp;a nightmare of 687 but still better than what I was at.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;So&amp;nbsp;last week I finally&amp;nbsp;got in with Amex (so excited) Delta gold my SL is only $1k but that ok happy to get my feet in.&amp;nbsp; I was told to app for my second Amex in January need advise which card to apply for and when.&amp;nbsp; I was considering the PRG, Everyday prefered or the BCP.&amp;nbsp; I already have a Sams club MC and Sallie Mae.&amp;nbsp; I would also like to qualify for the 61 day 3X increase but I read if I apply for a second card the 61 day starts again from the last application (please confirm).&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I went pretty crazy with the applying for credit and have racked up a crazy amount of inquaires (26 in TU and 32 in EX &lt;img id="smileyembarrassed" class="emoticon emoticon-smileyembarrassed" src="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-embarrassed.gif" alt="Smiley Embarassed" title="Smiley Embarassed" /&gt;)&amp;nbsp;and credit cards.&amp;nbsp; The second Amex is pretty much my last application unless something crazy (diners club) comes available in 2015.&amp;nbsp; I think I read the second Amex card would be a soft pull and only a hard pull if I get approved (please confirm).&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;So based upon the above do you think I can get another Amex in January and which card should I apply for?&amp;nbsp; I appreciate any advise &lt;img id="smileyhappy" class="emoticon emoticon-smileyhappy" src="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif" alt="Smiley Happy" title="Smiley Happy" /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 20 Dec 2014 18:43:57 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Need-advise-for-Amex-application-for-Jan-2015/m-p/3698890#M1014205</guid>
      <dc:creator>Guinness</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2014-12-20T18:43:57Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Need advise for Amex application for Jan 2015</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Need-advise-for-Amex-application-for-Jan-2015/m-p/3698913#M1014211</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/578241"&gt;@Guinness&lt;/a&gt; wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;Happy Holidays and Merry Christmas everyone!&amp;nbsp; Due to this wonderful forum I have gone from a starting FICO of low 600 to a TU score of 746 amd EX score of 749 &lt;img id="smileyvery-happy" class="emoticon emoticon-smileyvery-happy" src="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif" alt="Smiley Very Happy" title="Smiley Very Happy" /&gt;&amp;nbsp; EQ is still&amp;nbsp;a nightmare of 687 but still better than what I was at.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;So&amp;nbsp;last week I finally&amp;nbsp;got in with Amex (so excited) Delta gold my SL is only $1k but that ok happy to get my feet in.&amp;nbsp; I was told to app for my second Amex in January need advise which card to apply for and when.&amp;nbsp; I was considering the PRG, Everyday prefered or the BCP.&amp;nbsp; I already have a Sams club MC and Sallie Mae.&amp;nbsp; I would also like to qualify for the 61 day 3X increase but I read if I apply for a second card the 61 day starts again from the last application (please confirm).&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I went pretty crazy with the applying for credit and have racked up a crazy amount of inquaires (26 in TU and 32 in EX &lt;img id="smileyembarrassed" class="emoticon emoticon-smileyembarrassed" src="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-embarrassed.gif" alt="Smiley Embarassed" title="Smiley Embarassed" /&gt;)&amp;nbsp;and credit cards.&amp;nbsp; The second Amex is pretty much my last application unless something crazy (diners club) comes available in 2015.&amp;nbsp; I think I read the second Amex card would be a soft pull and only a hard pull if I get approved (please confirm).&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;So based upon the above do you think I can get another Amex in January and which card should I apply for?&amp;nbsp; I appreciate any advise &lt;img id="smileyhappy" class="emoticon emoticon-smileyhappy" src="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif" alt="Smiley Happy" title="Smiley Happy" /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;I'm not really sure that its great advice to be applying for an amex next month. With all those inqs and the fact you just got a new amex card with a low credit line I'd be concerned about potential adverse action for agressive credit seeking. You just literally got in with them and barely at that. To go back and try for more seems dangerous. I agree that normally Jan is the best time to apply for amex cards (if you have one already), but in your case I would strongly discourage it. You need to garden and let these inqs age. Do your SP 3x CLI with amex. I also do not see that a PRG card would necessarily be a great fit for you since you are already in with amex (there may be other reasons it works for you but its a charge card not revolver). Typically its a SP on app and HP on approval, but nothing is guaranteed.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 20 Dec 2014 18:50:44 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Need-advise-for-Amex-application-for-Jan-2015/m-p/3698913#M1014211</guid>
      <dc:creator>red259</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2014-12-20T18:50:44Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Need advise for Amex application for Jan 2015</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Need-advise-for-Amex-application-for-Jan-2015/m-p/3698920#M1014212</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/716469"&gt;@red259&lt;/a&gt; wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/578241"&gt;@Guinness&lt;/a&gt; wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;Happy Holidays and Merry Christmas everyone!&amp;nbsp; Due to this wonderful forum I have gone from a starting FICO of low 600 to a TU score of 746 amd EX score of 749 &lt;img id="smileyvery-happy" class="emoticon emoticon-smileyvery-happy" src="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif" alt="Smiley Very Happy" title="Smiley Very Happy" /&gt;&amp;nbsp; EQ is still&amp;nbsp;a nightmare of 687 but still better than what I was at.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;So&amp;nbsp;last week I finally&amp;nbsp;got in with Amex (so excited) Delta gold my SL is only $1k but that ok happy to get my feet in.&amp;nbsp; I was told to app for my second Amex in January need advise which card to apply for and when.&amp;nbsp; I was considering the PRG, Everyday prefered or the BCP.&amp;nbsp; I already have a Sams club MC and Sallie Mae.&amp;nbsp; I would also like to qualify for the 61 day 3X increase but I read if I apply for a second card the 61 day starts again from the last application (please confirm).&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I went pretty crazy with the applying for credit and have racked up a crazy amount of inquaires (26 in TU and 32 in EX &lt;img id="smileyembarrassed" class="emoticon emoticon-smileyembarrassed" src="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-embarrassed.gif" alt="Smiley Embarassed" title="Smiley Embarassed" /&gt;)&amp;nbsp;and credit cards.&amp;nbsp; The second Amex is pretty much my last application unless something crazy (diners club) comes available in 2015.&amp;nbsp; I think I read the second Amex card would be a soft pull and only a hard pull if I get approved (please confirm).&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;So based upon the above do you think I can get another Amex in January and which card should I apply for?&amp;nbsp; I appreciate any advise &lt;img id="smileyhappy" class="emoticon emoticon-smileyhappy" src="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif" alt="Smiley Happy" title="Smiley Happy" /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;I'm not really sure that its great advice to be applying for an amex next month. With all those inqs and the fact you just got a new amex card with a low credit line I'd be concerned about potential adverse action for agressive credit seeking. You just literally got in with them and barely at that. To go back and try for more seems dangerous. I agree that normally Jan is the best time to apply for amex cards (if you have one already), but in your case I would strongly discourage it. You need to garden and let these inqs age. Do your SP 3x CLI with amex. I also do not see that a PRG card would necessarily be a great fit for you since you are already in with amex (there may be other reasons it works for you but its a charge card not revolver). Typically its a SP on app and HP on approval, but nothing is guaranteed.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;I fully agree. You have WAYYYY too many inquiries (I should talk, right? &lt;img id="smileytongue" class="emoticon emoticon-smileytongue" src="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif" alt="Smiley Tongue" title="Smiley Tongue" /&gt; )&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Cool it for a year or more then see how you do.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 20 Dec 2014 18:52:13 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Need-advise-for-Amex-application-for-Jan-2015/m-p/3698920#M1014212</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2014-12-20T18:52:13Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Need advise for Amex application for Jan 2015</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Need-advise-for-Amex-application-for-Jan-2015/m-p/3698946#M1014219</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Thanks for the advise. &lt;img id="smileyhappy" class="emoticon emoticon-smileyhappy" src="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif" alt="Smiley Happy" title="Smiley Happy" /&gt;&amp;nbsp; I had a feeling that was what would be advised.&amp;nbsp; Oh well ...at least I got in and my MSD date will be in &amp;nbsp;2014.&amp;nbsp; Never thought I could become addicted to applying for credit &lt;img id="smileyfrustrated" class="emoticon emoticon-smileyfrustrated" src="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-frustrated.gif" alt="Smiley Frustrated" title="Smiley Frustrated" /&gt;&amp;nbsp; Need to go find a corner and cold turkey for at least a year &lt;img id="womansad" class="emoticon emoticon-womansad" src="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/i/smilies/16x16_woman-sad.gif" alt="Woman Sad" title="Woman Sad" /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 20 Dec 2014 19:01:54 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Need-advise-for-Amex-application-for-Jan-2015/m-p/3698946#M1014219</guid>
      <dc:creator>Guinness</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2014-12-20T19:01:54Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Need advise for Amex application for Jan 2015</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Need-advise-for-Amex-application-for-Jan-2015/m-p/3698954#M1014224</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;January is a good month for a subsequent Amex card but that does not need to be 2015. I would recommend to wait until 2016 and garden your cards and age off your inquiries.&amp;nbsp; Go for the 3 x CLI at the 61day mark but do not app for any new cards would&amp;nbsp; be my recommendation.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 20 Dec 2014 19:06:10 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Need-advise-for-Amex-application-for-Jan-2015/m-p/3698954#M1014224</guid>
      <dc:creator>lg8302ch</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2014-12-20T19:06:10Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Need advise for Amex application for Jan 2015</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Need-advise-for-Amex-application-for-Jan-2015/m-p/3698959#M1014228</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/639972"&gt;@lg8302ch&lt;/a&gt; wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;January is a good month for a subsequent Amex card but that does not need to be 2015. I would recommend to wait until 2016 and garden your cards and age off your inquiries.&amp;nbsp; Go for the 3 x CLI at the 61day mark but do not app for any new cards would&amp;nbsp; be my recommendation.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;That is awsome!&amp;nbsp; Thank you for the heads up on applying in 2016 and I would still get Jan 2014 as my MSD so excited.&amp;nbsp; Makes the coming months a little bit easier to face knowing there is a reward for wait.&amp;nbsp; Hopefully Amex will grant me a decent sL in 2016 as an established member &lt;img id="smileyvery-happy" class="emoticon emoticon-smileyvery-happy" src="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif" alt="Smiley Very Happy" title="Smiley Very Happy" /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 20 Dec 2014 19:09:49 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Need-advise-for-Amex-application-for-Jan-2015/m-p/3698959#M1014228</guid>
      <dc:creator>Guinness</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2014-12-20T19:09:49Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Need advise for Amex application for Jan 2015</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Need-advise-for-Amex-application-for-Jan-2015/m-p/3698991#M1014247</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/578241"&gt;@Guinness&lt;/a&gt; wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/639972"&gt;@lg8302ch&lt;/a&gt; wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;January is a good month for a subsequent Amex card but that does not need to be 2015. I would recommend to wait until 2016 and garden your cards and age off your inquiries.&amp;nbsp; Go for the 3 x CLI at the 61day mark but do not app for any new cards would&amp;nbsp; be my recommendation.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;That is awsome!&amp;nbsp; Thank you for the heads up on applying in 2016 and I would still get Jan 2014 as my MSD so excited.&amp;nbsp; Makes the coming months a little bit easier to face knowing there is a reward for wait.&amp;nbsp; Hopefully Amex will grant me a decent sL in 2016 as an established member &lt;img id="smileyvery-happy" class="emoticon emoticon-smileyvery-happy" src="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif" alt="Smiley Very Happy" title="Smiley Very Happy" /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;Advice to wait is spot on &amp;nbsp;here, but we can play pretend for an second and pretend its end of 2015 now. As far as which card to get depends on how much travel you plan on doing or if you want pure cashback. Since all three cards have bonus categories for gas and groceries. you need to decide if you will be using card to purchase airfare, hotels, train fare etc. If you think an lot of spending will be in that category i would go for PRG , I would preferably wait for 50k offer. Now if you just want to accumulate MR points but don't travel as much EDP or ED is an good option, especially if you can meet 20 or 30 swipes an month. Lastly BCP or BCE is only good if you want an cash back option, because MR to statement credit or gift cards is an horrendous use of MR, you get .5% value or there abouts.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 20 Dec 2014 19:32:18 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Need-advise-for-Amex-application-for-Jan-2015/m-p/3698991#M1014247</guid>
      <dc:creator>mongstradamus</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2014-12-20T19:32:18Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Need advise for Amex application for Jan 2015</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Need-advise-for-Amex-application-for-Jan-2015/m-p/3698998#M1014253</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/720709"&gt;@mongstradamus&lt;/a&gt; wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/578241"&gt;@Guinness&lt;/a&gt; wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/639972"&gt;@lg8302ch&lt;/a&gt; wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;January is a good month for a subsequent Amex card but that does not need to be 2015. I would recommend to wait until 2016 and garden your cards and age off your inquiries.&amp;nbsp; Go for the 3 x CLI at the 61day mark but do not app for any new cards would&amp;nbsp; be my recommendation.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;That is awsome!&amp;nbsp; Thank you for the heads up on applying in 2016 and I would still get Jan 2014 as my MSD so excited.&amp;nbsp; Makes the coming months a little bit easier to face knowing there is a reward for wait.&amp;nbsp; Hopefully Amex will grant me a decent sL in 2016 as an established member &lt;img id="smileyvery-happy" class="emoticon emoticon-smileyvery-happy" src="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif" alt="Smiley Very Happy" title="Smiley Very Happy" /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;Advice to wait is spot on &amp;nbsp;here, but we can play pretend for an second and&lt;STRONG&gt; pretend its end of 2015&lt;/STRONG&gt; now. As far as which card to get depends on how much travel you plan on doing or if you want pure cashback. Since all three cards have bonus categories for gas and groceries. you need to decide if you will be using card to purchase airfare, hotels, train fare etc. If you think an lot of spending will be in that category i would go for PRG , I would preferably wait for 50k offer. Now if you just want to accumulate MR points but don't travel as much EDP or ED is an good option, especially if you can meet 20 or 30 swipes an month. Lastly BCP or BCE is only good if you want an cash back option, because MR to statement credit or gift cards is an horrendous use of MR, you get .5% value or there abouts.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;....and I was about to say that the big advantage of waiting will give you time to think over which other Amex makes most sense for your spending pattern &lt;img id="smileyhappy" class="emoticon emoticon-smileyhappy" src="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif" alt="Smiley Happy" title="Smiley Happy" /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 20 Dec 2014 19:37:03 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Need-advise-for-Amex-application-for-Jan-2015/m-p/3698998#M1014253</guid>
      <dc:creator>lg8302ch</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2014-12-20T19:37:03Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Need advise for Amex application for Jan 2015</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Need-advise-for-Amex-application-for-Jan-2015/m-p/3699037#M1014280</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/720709"&gt;@mongstradamus&lt;/a&gt; wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/578241"&gt;@Guinness&lt;/a&gt; wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/639972"&gt;@lg8302ch&lt;/a&gt; wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;January is a good month for a subsequent Amex card but that does not need to be 2015. I would recommend to wait until 2016 and garden your cards and age off your inquiries.&amp;nbsp; Go for the 3 x CLI at the 61day mark but do not app for any new cards would&amp;nbsp; be my recommendation.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;That is awsome!&amp;nbsp; Thank you for the heads up on applying in 2016 and I would still get Jan 2014 as my MSD so excited.&amp;nbsp; Makes the coming months a little bit easier to face knowing there is a reward for wait.&amp;nbsp; Hopefully Amex will grant me a decent sL in 2016 as an established member &lt;img id="smileyvery-happy" class="emoticon emoticon-smileyvery-happy" src="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif" alt="Smiley Very Happy" title="Smiley Very Happy" /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;Advice to wait is spot on &amp;nbsp;here, but we can play pretend for an second and pretend its end of 2015 now. As far as which card to get depends on how much travel you plan on doing or if you want pure cashback. Since all three cards have bonus categories for gas and groceries. you need to decide if you will be using card to purchase airfare, hotels, train fare etc. If you think an lot of spending will be in that category i would go for PRG , I would preferably wait for 50k offer. Now if you just want to accumulate MR points but don't travel as much EDP or ED is an good option, especially if you can meet 20 or 30 swipes an month. Lastly BCP or BCE is only good if you want an cash back option, because MR to statement credit or gift cards is an horrendous use of MR, you get .5% value or there abouts.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;Thank you for the great advise!&amp;nbsp; I do have travel cards Arrival+ and Venture so I think I am leaning towards the EDP &lt;img id="smileyhappy" class="emoticon emoticon-smileyhappy" src="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif" alt="Smiley Happy" title="Smiley Happy" /&gt;&amp;nbsp; 2015 is going to drag so slow.&amp;nbsp; Might have to stop logging into the forum so I wont get tempted from other peoples approvals&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 20 Dec 2014 19:55:48 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Need-advise-for-Amex-application-for-Jan-2015/m-p/3699037#M1014280</guid>
      <dc:creator>Guinness</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2014-12-20T19:55:48Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Need advise for Amex application for Jan 2015</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Need-advise-for-Amex-application-for-Jan-2015/m-p/3699047#M1014288</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/578241"&gt;@Guinness&lt;/a&gt; wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/720709"&gt;@mongstradamus&lt;/a&gt; wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/578241"&gt;@Guinness&lt;/a&gt; wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/639972"&gt;@lg8302ch&lt;/a&gt; wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;January is a good month for a subsequent Amex card but that does not need to be 2015. I would recommend to wait until 2016 and garden your cards and age off your inquiries.&amp;nbsp; Go for the 3 x CLI at the 61day mark but do not app for any new cards would&amp;nbsp; be my recommendation.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;That is awsome!&amp;nbsp; Thank you for the heads up on applying in 2016 and I would still get Jan 2014 as my MSD so excited.&amp;nbsp; Makes the coming months a little bit easier to face knowing there is a reward for wait.&amp;nbsp; Hopefully Amex will grant me a decent sL in 2016 as an established member &lt;img id="smileyvery-happy" class="emoticon emoticon-smileyvery-happy" src="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif" alt="Smiley Very Happy" title="Smiley Very Happy" /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;Advice to wait is spot on &amp;nbsp;here, but we can play pretend for an second and pretend its end of 2015 now. As far as which card to get depends on how much travel you plan on doing or if you want pure cashback. Since all three cards have bonus categories for gas and groceries. you need to decide if you will be using card to purchase airfare, hotels, train fare etc. If you think an lot of spending will be in that category i would go for PRG , I would preferably wait for 50k offer. Now if you just want to accumulate MR points but don't travel as much EDP or ED is an good option, especially if you can meet 20 or 30 swipes an month. Lastly BCP or BCE is only good if you want an cash back option, because MR to statement credit or gift cards is an horrendous use of MR, you get .5% value or there abouts.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;Thank you for the great advise!&amp;nbsp; I do have travel cards Arrival+ and Venture so I think I am leaning towards the EDP &lt;img id="smileyhappy" class="emoticon emoticon-smileyhappy" src="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif" alt="Smiley Happy" title="Smiley Happy" /&gt;&amp;nbsp; 2015 is going to drag so slow.&amp;nbsp; Might have to stop logging into the forum so I wont get tempted from other peoples approvals&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;Nice i am just curious why you have both venture and arrival + aren't they pretty similar cards? EDP is an nice card to have , i am using it almost primarily for most of my purchases. CSP is the other card i use just for dining. I like having CSP and to lesser extent ink plus for the no FTF for the times i do travel outside US. The one thing about amex cards that are an slight annoyance is that almost all their cards have FTF.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 20 Dec 2014 20:01:22 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Need-advise-for-Amex-application-for-Jan-2015/m-p/3699047#M1014288</guid>
      <dc:creator>mongstradamus</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2014-12-20T20:01:22Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Need advise for Amex application for Jan 2015</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Need-advise-for-Amex-application-for-Jan-2015/m-p/3699055#M1014296</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/578241"&gt;@Guinness&lt;/a&gt; wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/639972"&gt;@lg8302ch&lt;/a&gt; wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;January is a good month for a subsequent Amex card but that does not need to be 2015. I would recommend to wait until 2016 and garden your cards and age off your inquiries.&amp;nbsp; Go for the 3 x CLI at the 61day mark but do not app for any new cards would&amp;nbsp; be my recommendation.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;That is awsome!&amp;nbsp; Thank you for the heads up on applying in 2016 and I would still get Jan 2014 as my MSD so excited.&amp;nbsp; Makes the coming months a little bit easier to face knowing there is a reward for wait.&amp;nbsp; Hopefully Amex will grant me a decent sL in 2016 as an established member &lt;img id="smileyvery-happy" class="emoticon emoticon-smileyvery-happy" src="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif" alt="Smiley Very Happy" title="Smiley Very Happy" /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;I also agree OP should wait to app. That $1k limit that AMEX just gave you? It's a signal that you have a very narrow ledge to work with to really get in the door. You are still kind of on the doorstep, not really safely in.&amp;nbsp;Use the card carefully, pay in full, and see what the first 3X CLI request gives you in a few months. If all goes well, in a year you will be doing well with those AMEX Apps.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;However, having recommended the "correct" way to proceed, given the range of "Ohhh Shiny!" comments in the first post, I am going to bet that when Diners opens again, the OP apps that. This will provide us with&amp;nbsp;interesting data points both for human behavior and for how Diners Version 2 approaches hyper-appers.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Cheers!&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 20 Dec 2014 20:05:20 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Need-advise-for-Amex-application-for-Jan-2015/m-p/3699055#M1014296</guid>
      <dc:creator>NRB525</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2014-12-20T20:05:20Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Need advise for Amex application for Jan 2015</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Need-advise-for-Amex-application-for-Jan-2015/m-p/3699064#M1014302</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/844027"&gt;@NRB525&lt;/a&gt; wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/578241"&gt;@Guinness&lt;/a&gt; wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/639972"&gt;@lg8302ch&lt;/a&gt; wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;January is a good month for a subsequent Amex card but that does not need to be 2015. I would recommend to wait until 2016 and garden your cards and age off your inquiries.&amp;nbsp; Go for the 3 x CLI at the 61day mark but do not app for any new cards would&amp;nbsp; be my recommendation.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;That is awsome!&amp;nbsp; Thank you for the heads up on applying in 2016 and I would still get Jan 2014 as my MSD so excited.&amp;nbsp; Makes the coming months a little bit easier to face knowing there is a reward for wait.&amp;nbsp; Hopefully Amex will grant me a decent sL in 2016 as an established member &lt;img id="smileyvery-happy" class="emoticon emoticon-smileyvery-happy" src="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif" alt="Smiley Very Happy" title="Smiley Very Happy" /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;I also agree OP should wait to app. That $1k limit that AMEX just gave you? It's a signal that you have a very narrow ledge to work with to really get in the door. You are still kind of on the doorstep, not really safely in.&amp;nbsp;Use the card carefully, pay in full, and see what the first 3X CLI request gives you in a few months. If all goes well, in a year you will be doing well with those AMEX Apps.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;However, having recommended the "correct" way to proceed, given the range of "Ohhh Shiny!" comments in the first post, I am going to bet that when Diners opens again, the OP apps that. This will provide us with&amp;nbsp;interesting data points both for human behavior and for how Diners Version 2 approaches hyper-appers.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Cheers!&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;LOL I actually did apply and took 4 HP on Diners during the frenzy&amp;nbsp;and was approved for both the Premire and Elite SL $15k each.&amp;nbsp; I did get declined twice due to unable to verify ID &lt;img id="smileyfrustrated" class="emoticon emoticon-smileyfrustrated" src="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-frustrated.gif" alt="Smiley Frustrated" title="Smiley Frustrated" /&gt; before finally reading the address issue Diners was having.&amp;nbsp; Yah I like pretty shiny things &lt;img id="smileyembarrassed" class="emoticon emoticon-smileyembarrassed" src="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-embarrassed.gif" alt="Smiley Embarassed" title="Smiley Embarassed" /&gt; my husband shakes his head and tells me I have problems when I get excited over a new credit card vs.&amp;nbsp;a new pair of shoes or a purse....&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 20 Dec 2014 20:12:34 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Need-advise-for-Amex-application-for-Jan-2015/m-p/3699064#M1014302</guid>
      <dc:creator>Guinness</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2014-12-20T20:12:34Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Need advise for Amex application for Jan 2015</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Need-advise-for-Amex-application-for-Jan-2015/m-p/3699080#M1014313</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/578241"&gt;@Guinness&lt;/a&gt; wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/844027"&gt;@NRB525&lt;/a&gt; wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/578241"&gt;@Guinness&lt;/a&gt; wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/639972"&gt;@lg8302ch&lt;/a&gt; wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;January is a good month for a subsequent Amex card but that does not need to be 2015. I would recommend to wait until 2016 and garden your cards and age off your inquiries.&amp;nbsp; Go for the 3 x CLI at the 61day mark but do not app for any new cards would&amp;nbsp; be my recommendation.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;That is awsome!&amp;nbsp; Thank you for the heads up on applying in 2016 and I would still get Jan 2014 as my MSD so excited.&amp;nbsp; Makes the coming months a little bit easier to face knowing there is a reward for wait.&amp;nbsp; Hopefully Amex will grant me a decent sL in 2016 as an established member &lt;img id="smileyvery-happy" class="emoticon emoticon-smileyvery-happy" src="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif" alt="Smiley Very Happy" title="Smiley Very Happy" /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;I also agree OP should wait to app. That $1k limit that AMEX just gave you? It's a signal that you have a very narrow ledge to work with to really get in the door. You are still kind of on the doorstep, not really safely in.&amp;nbsp;Use the card carefully, pay in full, and see what the first 3X CLI request gives you in a few months. If all goes well, in a year you will be doing well with those AMEX Apps.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;However, having recommended the "correct" way to proceed, given the range of "Ohhh Shiny!" comments in the first post, I am going to bet that when Diners opens again, the OP apps that. This will provide us with&amp;nbsp;interesting data points both for human behavior and for how Diners Version 2 approaches hyper-appers.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Cheers!&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;LOL I actually did apply and took 4 HP on Diners during the frenzy&amp;nbsp;and was approved for both the Premire and Elite SL $15k each.&amp;nbsp; I did get declined twice due to unable to verify ID &lt;img id="smileyfrustrated" class="emoticon emoticon-smileyfrustrated" src="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-frustrated.gif" alt="Smiley Frustrated" title="Smiley Frustrated" /&gt; before finally reading the address issue Diners was having.&amp;nbsp; Yah I like pretty shiny things &lt;img id="smileyembarrassed" class="emoticon emoticon-smileyembarrassed" src="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-embarrassed.gif" alt="Smiley Embarassed" title="Smiley Embarassed" /&gt; my husband shakes his head and tells me I have problems when I get excited over a new credit card vs.&amp;nbsp;a new pair of shoes or a purse....&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;Just tell DH&amp;nbsp;you saved money by not buying any shoes. Remember: It's not what you spend, it's how much you save that matters &lt;img id="smileyhappy" class="emoticon emoticon-smileyhappy" src="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif" alt="Smiley Happy" title="Smiley Happy" /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 20 Dec 2014 20:22:54 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Need-advise-for-Amex-application-for-Jan-2015/m-p/3699080#M1014313</guid>
      <dc:creator>NRB525</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2014-12-20T20:22:54Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Need advise for Amex application for Jan 2015</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Need-advise-for-Amex-application-for-Jan-2015/m-p/3699085#M1014315</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/720709"&gt;@mongstradamus&lt;/a&gt; wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/578241"&gt;@Guinness&lt;/a&gt; wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/720709"&gt;@mongstradamus&lt;/a&gt; wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/578241"&gt;@Guinness&lt;/a&gt; wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/639972"&gt;@lg8302ch&lt;/a&gt; wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;January is a good month for a subsequent Amex card but that does not need to be 2015. I would recommend to wait until 2016 and garden your cards and age off your inquiries.&amp;nbsp; Go for the 3 x CLI at the 61day mark but do not app for any new cards would&amp;nbsp; be my recommendation.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;That is awsome!&amp;nbsp; Thank you for the heads up on applying in 2016 and I would still get Jan 2014 as my MSD so excited.&amp;nbsp; Makes the coming months a little bit easier to face knowing there is a reward for wait.&amp;nbsp; Hopefully Amex will grant me a decent sL in 2016 as an established member &lt;img id="smileyvery-happy" class="emoticon emoticon-smileyvery-happy" src="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif" alt="Smiley Very Happy" title="Smiley Very Happy" /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;Advice to wait is spot on &amp;nbsp;here, but we can play pretend for an second and pretend its end of 2015 now. As far as which card to get depends on how much travel you plan on doing or if you want pure cashback. Since all three cards have bonus categories for gas and groceries. you need to decide if you will be using card to purchase airfare, hotels, train fare etc. If you think an lot of spending will be in that category i would go for PRG , I would preferably wait for 50k offer. Now if you just want to accumulate MR points but don't travel as much EDP or ED is an good option, especially if you can meet 20 or 30 swipes an month. Lastly BCP or BCE is only good if you want an cash back option, because MR to statement credit or gift cards is an horrendous use of MR, you get .5% value or there abouts.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;Thank you for the great advise!&amp;nbsp; I do have travel cards Arrival+ and Venture so I think I am leaning towards the EDP &lt;img id="smileyhappy" class="emoticon emoticon-smileyhappy" src="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif" alt="Smiley Happy" title="Smiley Happy" /&gt;&amp;nbsp; 2015 is going to drag so slow.&amp;nbsp; Might have to stop logging into the forum so I wont get tempted from other peoples approvals&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;Nice i am just curious why you have both venture and arrival + aren't they pretty similar cards? EDP is an nice card to have , i am using it almost primarily for most of my purchases. CSP is the other card i use just for dining. I like having CSP and to lesser extent ink plus for the no FTF for the times i do travel outside US. The one thing about amex cards that are an slight annoyance is that almost all their cards have FTF.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;I applied for the arrival+ for the sign up bonus already paid for an emergency trip to Colorado.&amp;nbsp; The Venture card also for the sign up bonus plus we have a trip to Europe planned for 2015 so wanted 2 cards with no FTF.&amp;nbsp; Chase wont give me the time of day took 4 HP trying to get back in with them.&amp;nbsp; Took 6 HP&amp;nbsp;tries to get in with Amex &lt;img id="smileyfrustrated" class="emoticon emoticon-smileyfrustrated" src="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-frustrated.gif" alt="Smiley Frustrated" title="Smiley Frustrated" /&gt;&amp;nbsp; so a big bulk of my HP was wasted trying to get in with Chase and Amex...&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 20 Dec 2014 20:30:25 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Need-advise-for-Amex-application-for-Jan-2015/m-p/3699085#M1014315</guid>
      <dc:creator>Guinness</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2014-12-20T20:30:25Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Need advise for Amex application for Jan 2015</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Need-advise-for-Amex-application-for-Jan-2015/m-p/3699089#M1014318</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/844027"&gt;@NRB525&lt;/a&gt; wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/578241"&gt;@Guinness&lt;/a&gt; wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/844027"&gt;@NRB525&lt;/a&gt; wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/578241"&gt;@Guinness&lt;/a&gt; wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/639972"&gt;@lg8302ch&lt;/a&gt; wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;January is a good month for a subsequent Amex card but that does not need to be 2015. I would recommend to wait until 2016 and garden your cards and age off your inquiries.&amp;nbsp; Go for the 3 x CLI at the 61day mark but do not app for any new cards would&amp;nbsp; be my recommendation.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;That is awsome!&amp;nbsp; Thank you for the heads up on applying in 2016 and I would still get Jan 2014 as my MSD so excited.&amp;nbsp; Makes the coming months a little bit easier to face knowing there is a reward for wait.&amp;nbsp; Hopefully Amex will grant me a decent sL in 2016 as an established member &lt;img id="smileyvery-happy" class="emoticon emoticon-smileyvery-happy" src="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif" alt="Smiley Very Happy" title="Smiley Very Happy" /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;I also agree OP should wait to app. That $1k limit that AMEX just gave you? It's a signal that you have a very narrow ledge to work with to really get in the door. You are still kind of on the doorstep, not really safely in.&amp;nbsp;Use the card carefully, pay in full, and see what the first 3X CLI request gives you in a few months. If all goes well, in a year you will be doing well with those AMEX Apps.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;However, having recommended the "correct" way to proceed, given the range of "Ohhh Shiny!" comments in the first post, I am going to bet that when Diners opens again, the OP apps that. This will provide us with&amp;nbsp;interesting data points both for human behavior and for how Diners Version 2 approaches hyper-appers.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Cheers!&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;LOL I actually did apply and took 4 HP on Diners during the frenzy&amp;nbsp;and was approved for both the Premire and Elite SL $15k each.&amp;nbsp; I did get declined twice due to unable to verify ID &lt;img id="smileyfrustrated" class="emoticon emoticon-smileyfrustrated" src="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-frustrated.gif" alt="Smiley Frustrated" title="Smiley Frustrated" /&gt; before finally reading the address issue Diners was having.&amp;nbsp; Yah I like pretty shiny things &lt;img id="smileyembarrassed" class="emoticon emoticon-smileyembarrassed" src="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-embarrassed.gif" alt="Smiley Embarassed" title="Smiley Embarassed" /&gt; my husband shakes his head and tells me I have problems when I get excited over a new credit card vs.&amp;nbsp;a new pair of shoes or a purse....&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;Just tell DH&amp;nbsp;you saved money by not buying any shoes. Remember: It's not what you spend, it's how much you save that matters &lt;img id="smileyhappy" class="emoticon emoticon-smileyhappy" src="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif" alt="Smiley Happy" title="Smiley Happy" /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;Yes I keep telling him how much in cash back and reward we get by using the CC and paying off monthly vs only using cash/ debit cards.&amp;nbsp; He just shakes his head &lt;img id="smileyindifferent" class="emoticon emoticon-smileyindifferent" src="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif" alt="Smiley Indifferent" title="Smiley Indifferent" /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 20 Dec 2014 20:33:27 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Need-advise-for-Amex-application-for-Jan-2015/m-p/3699089#M1014318</guid>
      <dc:creator>Guinness</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2014-12-20T20:33:27Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Need advise for Amex application for Jan 2015</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Need-advise-for-Amex-application-for-Jan-2015/m-p/3699105#M1014331</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/578241"&gt;@Guinness&lt;/a&gt; wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/720709"&gt;@mongstradamus&lt;/a&gt; wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/578241"&gt;@Guinness&lt;/a&gt; wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/720709"&gt;@mongstradamus&lt;/a&gt; wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/578241"&gt;@Guinness&lt;/a&gt; wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/639972"&gt;@lg8302ch&lt;/a&gt; wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;January is a good month for a subsequent Amex card but that does not need to be 2015. I would recommend to wait until 2016 and garden your cards and age off your inquiries.&amp;nbsp; Go for the 3 x CLI at the 61day mark but do not app for any new cards would&amp;nbsp; be my recommendation.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;That is awsome!&amp;nbsp; Thank you for the heads up on applying in 2016 and I would still get Jan 2014 as my MSD so excited.&amp;nbsp; Makes the coming months a little bit easier to face knowing there is a reward for wait.&amp;nbsp; Hopefully Amex will grant me a decent sL in 2016 as an established member &lt;img id="smileyvery-happy" class="emoticon emoticon-smileyvery-happy" src="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif" alt="Smiley Very Happy" title="Smiley Very Happy" /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;Advice to wait is spot on &amp;nbsp;here, but we can play pretend for an second and pretend its end of 2015 now. As far as which card to get depends on how much travel you plan on doing or if you want pure cashback. Since all three cards have bonus categories for gas and groceries. you need to decide if you will be using card to purchase airfare, hotels, train fare etc. If you think an lot of spending will be in that category i would go for PRG , I would preferably wait for 50k offer. Now if you just want to accumulate MR points but don't travel as much EDP or ED is an good option, especially if you can meet 20 or 30 swipes an month. Lastly BCP or BCE is only good if you want an cash back option, because MR to statement credit or gift cards is an horrendous use of MR, you get .5% value or there abouts.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;Thank you for the great advise!&amp;nbsp; I do have travel cards Arrival+ and Venture so I think I am leaning towards the EDP &lt;img id="smileyhappy" class="emoticon emoticon-smileyhappy" src="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif" alt="Smiley Happy" title="Smiley Happy" /&gt;&amp;nbsp; 2015 is going to drag so slow.&amp;nbsp; Might have to stop logging into the forum so I wont get tempted from other peoples approvals&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;Nice i am just curious why you have both venture and arrival + aren't they pretty similar cards? EDP is an nice card to have , i am using it almost primarily for most of my purchases. CSP is the other card i use just for dining. I like having CSP and to lesser extent ink plus for the no FTF for the times i do travel outside US. The one thing about amex cards that are an slight annoyance is that almost all their cards have FTF.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;I applied for the arrival+ for the sign up bonus already paid for an emergency trip to Colorado.&amp;nbsp; The Venture card also for the sign up bonus plus we have a trip to Europe planned for 2015 so wanted 2 cards with no FTF.&amp;nbsp; Chase wont give me the time of day took 4 HP trying to get back in with them.&amp;nbsp; Took 6 HP&amp;nbsp;tries to get in with Amex &lt;img id="smileyfrustrated" class="emoticon emoticon-smileyfrustrated" src="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-frustrated.gif" alt="Smiley Frustrated" title="Smiley Frustrated" /&gt;&amp;nbsp; so a big bulk of my HP was wasted trying to get in with Chase and Amex...&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;Ahhh i see with all those HP you need an slight break from apping. The denials are usually an good sign to garden. I am still trying to figure out what i would use either venture or arrival+ for. I don't think my spending would warrant paying AF after first year. I would probably use DC type card instead, gives an bit more flexibility for me. Right now citi aa and boa alaska air are cards i am eyeing, they have pretty good value for what i would use those points for.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 20 Dec 2014 20:48:15 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Need-advise-for-Amex-application-for-Jan-2015/m-p/3699105#M1014331</guid>
      <dc:creator>mongstradamus</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2014-12-20T20:48:15Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Need advise for Amex application for Jan 2015</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Need-advise-for-Amex-application-for-Jan-2015/m-p/3699712#M1014600</link>
      <description>Closed the Delta skymiles in preparation for a revolver app in January. (Thinking the ED might be the card to go for... might do EDP if the first year is waived and the bonus is good enough. I haven't researched enough to know which one is best for me as of yet.)</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 21 Dec 2014 05:08:27 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Need-advise-for-Amex-application-for-Jan-2015/m-p/3699712#M1014600</guid>
      <dc:creator>Kenny</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2014-12-21T05:08:27Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Need advise for Amex application for Jan 2015</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Need-advise-for-Amex-application-for-Jan-2015/m-p/3699791#M1014631</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/223250"&gt;@Kenny&lt;/a&gt; wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;Closed the Delta skymiles in preparation for a revolver app in January. (Thinking the ED might be the card to go for... might do EDP if the first year is waived and the bonus is good enough. I haven't researched enough to know which one is best for me as of yet.)&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;Don't think they waive the first year for everyday preferred. I'm not sure what the breakpoint is for when the EDP becomes better than the ED. The signup bonus isn't normally that great either. These are cards you get because you want the cards long term for the earning potential. These are not the type of cards where the value lies in the signup offers.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 21 Dec 2014 06:38:19 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Need-advise-for-Amex-application-for-Jan-2015/m-p/3699791#M1014631</guid>
      <dc:creator>red259</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2014-12-21T06:38:19Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Need advise for Amex application for Jan 2015</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Need-advise-for-Amex-application-for-Jan-2015/m-p/3699827#M1014645</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/716469"&gt;@red259&lt;/a&gt; wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/223250"&gt;@Kenny&lt;/a&gt; wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;Closed the Delta skymiles in preparation for a revolver app in January. (Thinking the ED might be the card to go for... might do EDP if the first year is waived and the bonus is good enough. I haven't researched enough to know which one is best for me as of yet.)&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;Don't think they waive the first year for everyday preferred. I'm not sure what the breakpoint is for when the EDP becomes better than the ED. The signup bonus isn't normally that great either. These are cards you get because you want the cards long term for the earning potential. These are not the type of cards where the value lies in the signup offers.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;Right. I looked at them, and looks like the Everyday card makes sense for me in January. The EDP doesn't to me, at all. Can't understand the 95 AF on it. Not sure. Still have a good bit of time to further narrow&amp;nbsp;the&amp;nbsp;choices&amp;nbsp;down.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 21 Dec 2014 07:26:23 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Need-advise-for-Amex-application-for-Jan-2015/m-p/3699827#M1014645</guid>
      <dc:creator>Kenny</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2014-12-21T07:26:23Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Need advise for Amex application for Jan 2015</title>
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      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/223250"&gt;@Kenny&lt;/a&gt; wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/716469"&gt;@red259&lt;/a&gt; wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/223250"&gt;@Kenny&lt;/a&gt; wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;Closed the Delta skymiles in preparation for a revolver app in January. (Thinking the ED might be the card to go for... might do EDP if the first year is waived and the bonus is good enough. I haven't researched enough to know which one is best for me as of yet.)&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;Don't think they waive the first year for everyday preferred. I'm not sure what the breakpoint is for when the EDP becomes better than the ED. The signup bonus isn't normally that great either. These are cards you get because you want the cards long term for the earning potential. These are not the type of cards where the value lies in the signup offers.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;Right. I looked at them, and looks like the Everyday card makes sense for me in January. &lt;STRONG&gt;The EDP doesn't to me,&lt;/STRONG&gt; at all. Can't understand the 95 AF on it. Not sure. Still have a good bit of time to further narrow&amp;nbsp;the&amp;nbsp;choices&amp;nbsp;down.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;Same for me but the ED is a nice card to keep the MR points "alive"&amp;nbsp; .. personally I am waiting for the 30K SPG offer to come back and this hopefully at the beginning of the year and not towards the end....want some backdating and not further kill my AAoA..lol&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 21 Dec 2014 07:58:35 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Need-advise-for-Amex-application-for-Jan-2015/m-p/3699841#M1014649</guid>
      <dc:creator>lg8302ch</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2014-12-21T07:58:35Z</dc:date>
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