topic Re: amex credit secure monitoring in Credit Cards

amex credit secure monitoring

mossmanb5 — Thu, 06 Nov 2014 02:01:47 GMT

on amex website they have a credit secure monitoring service that charges your card 1 dollar for the first 30 days then 15.00 a month there after. it says unlimited credit scores and reports for all 3 bureaus . does anyone have this and how close is it to the real scores?

Re: amex credit secure monitoring

Membersince2013 — Thu, 06 Nov 2014 02:04:11 GMT

@mossmanb5 wrote:
on amex website they have a credit secure monitoring service that charges your card 1 dollar for the first 30 days then 15.00 a month there after. it says unlimited credit scores and reports for all 3 bureaus . does anyone have this and how close is it to the real scores?

Fako scores are usually hit or miss....No one can give you an exact range. They're sometimes close though..

Re: amex credit secure monitoring

Anonymous — Thu, 06 Nov 2014 02:24:06 GMT

@Membersince2013 wrote:
@mossmanb5 wrote:
on amex website they have a credit secure monitoring service that charges your card 1 dollar for the first 30 days then 15.00 a month there after. it says unlimited credit scores and reports for all 3 bureaus . does anyone have this and how close is it to the real scores?
Fako scores are usually hit or miss....No one can give you an exact range. They're sometimes close though..

I find that CreditSecure's FAKOs are within 20-30pts of my true FICO's, and right now actually are within 5pts.

Honest!

Re: amex credit secure monitoring

Membersince2013 — Thu, 06 Nov 2014 02:28:07 GMT

@Anonymous wrote:
@Membersince2013 wrote:
@mossmanb5 wrote:
on amex website they have a credit secure monitoring service that charges your card 1 dollar for the first 30 days then 15.00 a month there after. it says unlimited credit scores and reports for all 3 bureaus . does anyone have this and how close is it to the real scores?
Fako scores are usually hit or miss....No one can give you an exact range. They're sometimes close though..
I find that CreditSecure's FAKOs are within 20-30pts of my true FICO's, and right now actually are within 5pts.

Honest!

Really? thats weird. Mine were waaaaayyy off. So off that i had to cancel the service.

Re: amex credit secure monitoring

Anonymous — Thu, 06 Nov 2014 02:50:36 GMT

@Membersince2013 wrote:
@Anonymous wrote:
@Membersince2013 wrote:
@mossmanb5 wrote:
on amex website they have a credit secure monitoring service that charges your card 1 dollar for the first 30 days then 15.00 a month there after. it says unlimited credit scores and reports for all 3 bureaus . does anyone have this and how close is it to the real scores?
Fako scores are usually hit or miss....No one can give you an exact range. They're sometimes close though..
I find that CreditSecure's FAKOs are within 20-30pts of my true FICO's, and right now actually are within 5pts.

Honest!
Really? thats weird. Mine were waaaaayyy off. So off that i had to cancel the service.

Oh, It's way topsy turvy for the wife's CreditSecure.

Her EX FAKO shows 30pts higher than her EX FICO, her EQ is within 5pts, and her TU FAKO is 50pts higher.

Re: amex credit secure monitoring

Involver — Thu, 06 Nov 2014 02:58:04 GMT

Credit scores on these sites mean nothing.

Use them primarily for monitoring changes. They have secondary benefits also, but the scores are meaningless.

Re: amex credit secure monitoring

mongstradamus — Thu, 06 Nov 2014 03:17:11 GMT

@Involver wrote:
Credit scores on these sites mean nothing.

Use them primarily for monitoring changes. They have secondary benefits also, but the scores are meaningless.

I would rather just use credit sesame for monitoring since its free. I do have another credit monitoring service from target hack, but i find Credit sesame to be fine for monitoring EX

Re: amex credit secure monitoring

One7 — Thu, 06 Nov 2014 04:15:19 GMT

Credit scores are way off but the reports are great. You can pull a report from all three bureaus daily if you want.

Re: amex credit secure monitoring

Anonymous — Thu, 06 Nov 2014 04:32:28 GMT

@One7 wrote:
Credit scores are way off but the reports are great. You can pull a report from all three bureaus daily if you want.

Yep. this is what we do.

Re: amex credit secure monitoring

lg8302ch — Thu, 06 Nov 2014 11:10:23 GMT

@mossmanb5 wrote:
on amex website they have a credit secure monitoring service that charges your card 1 dollar for the first 30 days then 15.00 a month there after. it says unlimited credit scores and reports for all 3 bureaus . does anyone have this and how close is it to the real scores?

All my Fako scores are in the same range as my Fico score +/- 10 points with the exeption of Equifax Fako being much lower. Credit Secure comes off Experian and if you are interested I would recommend the 1 x per month Citi for only 4.95$ / month. Amex is not unlimited but I believe 2 x per month for 15$ and if you want unlimited pulls then you will need to pay even more. Do you really need to access more than once a month? I am really happy with the Citi CMS on all 3 and not interested in the scores but rather the monitoring with a report once a month. Best value for my buck here

Re: amex credit secure monitoring

Anonymous — Thu, 06 Nov 2014 12:58:44 GMT

@lg8302ch wrote:
@mossmanb5 wrote:
on amex website they have a credit secure monitoring service that charges your card 1 dollar for the first 30 days then 15.00 a month there after. it says unlimited credit scores and reports for all 3 bureaus . does anyone have this and how close is it to the real scores?
All my Fako scores are in the same range as my Fico score +/- 10 points with the exeption of Equifax Fako being much lower. Credit Secure comes off Experian and if you are interested I would recommend the 1 x per month Citi for only 4.95$ / month. Amex is not unlimited but I believe 2 x per month for 15$ and if you want unlimited pulls then you will need to pay even more. Do you really need to access more than once a month? I am really happy with the Citi CMS on all 3 and not interested in the scores but rather the monitoring with a report once a month. Best value for my buck here

With my current rebuilding process, I like having the daily puller.

Re: amex credit secure monitoring

takeshi74 — Thu, 06 Nov 2014 13:25:31 GMT

@mossmanb5 wrote:
does anyone have this and how close is it to the real scores?

You can't rely on one scoring model to determine the score generated by a different scoring model whether you're comparing FAKO to FICO, FAKO to FAKO or FICO to FICO. How close the scores are between any two models will vary from situation to situation since they weigh different factors differently. It's not just a matter of a linear offset of X points.

Re: amex credit secure monitoring

RED_Knives — Wed, 31 Dec 2014 10:01:30 GMT

"The above image is an illustrative sample of CreditSecure PLUS Scores.
Each PLUS Score is a credit score calculated based on information in the individual credit report provided by one of the 3 Major Bureaus. The PLUS Score® is designed to represent your overall credit risk. PLUS Scores are not used by lenders and you should not rely only on PLUS Scores to understand how lenders will view your creditworthiness.Lenders use several different credit scoring models"

Tells you on the front page that lenders don't use plus scores...

Re: amex credit secure monitoring

Anonymous — Thu, 01 Jan 2015 01:05:56 GMT

I heard it's one of the easiest to read . It's good for if you wanna pull your reports everyday . The scores are useless tho .

Re: amex credit secure monitoring

aav — Thu, 01 Jan 2015 04:39:40 GMT

I use Amex CS to pull daily. They are not consistent with real fico scores, but I can tell which cms has updated info or not which I like a lot. It has some benefits for credit obsessives like me. I Pay more than $15. I really should cancel because I have the myfico monitoring all 3 scores for less. But I hate calling places to cancel. Lol

Re: amex credit secure monitoring

Anonymous — Thu, 01 Jan 2015 04:43:36 GMT

AMEX CS uses plus scores. Good daily puller though.

Re: amex credit secure monitoring

Anonymous — Thu, 01 Jan 2015 04:43:59 GMT

Why is this thread allowed but my thread about fraudulnt billing was buried on an obscure and unrelated forum? This IS a crdit card feature just like cash back and whatnot. Warning to OP: they keep billing you after you cancel, say you never did after they gave you a confirmaton number, and refuse to provide written confirmtion when you cance again.

Re: amex credit secure monitoring

Uppingmyscore — Thu, 01 Jan 2015 04:51:18 GMT

I have it...I like it because I can monitor things on my report. You only get 2 pulls within a 30 day period; however you have access to the site and the reports daily.

Re: amex credit secure monitoring

DiabolicallyRandom — Thu, 01 Jan 2015 05:14:57 GMT

I have the daily credit secure puller. My scores, according to it, are 728 across the board. My various fico versions range from 760-790. But it's great as a daily puller. You don't have to wait 24 hours and 1 minute for the next pull.

Re: amex credit secure monitoring

Anonymous — Thu, 01 Jan 2015 05:21:15 GMT

My plus scores are EX: 698, EQ: 638, TU: 669

FICOs are EX: 682, EQ: 654, TU: 683

Not a huge spread but inaccurate nonetheless.