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    <title>topic Re: JCPenney Mastercard upgrade! in Credit Cards</title>
    <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/JCPenney-Mastercard-upgrade/m-p/4621381#M1338044</link>
    <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;@RM21 wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;Congrats OP. To me if it was initiated on their end, in my own little world, that would not be stepping out of the garden. That is someone walking by and pouring water on it.&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;Thanks!&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I'll see it as the neighbors dog handling his business in my front yard. You know hate it when that happens but can't hate the dog.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Thu, 02 Jun 2016 01:52:06 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>datrucking210</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2016-06-02T01:52:06Z</dc:date>
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      <title>JCPenney Mastercard upgrade!</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/JCPenney-Mastercard-upgrade/m-p/4620959#M1337888</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Well yesterday in the mail I received a letter informing me that I was selected for an upgrade to the JCPenney Mastercard. Really surprised me. It does say if I don't want the upgrade to call by July 17th. Now I just recently jumped in the garden so this essentially will be coming out of the garden since it'll report as a new account, right?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;IMG src="http://i1379.photobucket.com/albums/ah147/carlos0627/2016-06-01%2015.47.20_zps4n8wcnyb.jpg" border="0" alt=" photo 2016-06-01 15.47.20_zps4n8wcnyb.jpg" width="438.3984375" height="580" /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 01 Jun 2016 21:03:48 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>datrucking210</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-06-01T21:03:48Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: JCPenney Mastercard upgrade!</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/JCPenney-Mastercard-upgrade/m-p/4620976#M1337895</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/805320"&gt;@datrucking210&lt;/a&gt; wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;Well yesterday in the mail I received a letter informing me that I was selected for an upgrade to the JCPenney Mastercard. Really surprised me. It does say if I don't want the upgrade to call by July 17th. Now I just recently jumped in the garden so this essentially will be coming out of the garden since it'll report as a new account, right?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;IMG src="http://i1379.photobucket.com/albums/ah147/carlos0627/2016-06-01%2015.47.20_zps4n8wcnyb.jpg" border="0" alt=" photo 2016-06-01 15.47.20_zps4n8wcnyb.jpg" width="438.3984375" height="580" /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;I believe so. I would do it if it was me, but that's me.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;i would not have closed the account a couple of years ago had I known that it might upgrade&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Congratu-diddlydooerooni-lations!&lt;img id="smileyvery-happy" class="emoticon emoticon-smileyvery-happy" src="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif" alt="Smiley Very Happy" title="Smiley Very Happy" /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 01 Jun 2016 21:23:00 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/JCPenney-Mastercard-upgrade/m-p/4620976#M1337895</guid>
      <dc:creator>woodyman100</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-06-01T21:23:00Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: JCPenney Mastercard upgrade!</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/JCPenney-Mastercard-upgrade/m-p/4621020#M1337904</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;If it requires a HP then yes your gardening starts over. &amp;nbsp;I don't believe a upgrade requires a HP with Synchrony bank. &amp;nbsp;It looks as though this was auto done from what I could read in the letter. &amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 01 Jun 2016 21:54:54 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/JCPenney-Mastercard-upgrade/m-p/4621020#M1337904</guid>
      <dc:creator>Pway</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-06-01T21:54:54Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: JCPenney Mastercard upgrade!</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/JCPenney-Mastercard-upgrade/m-p/4621101#M1337935</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Congrats..Since you didn't initiate it, I don't think it counts against gardening.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 01 Jun 2016 22:46:29 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/JCPenney-Mastercard-upgrade/m-p/4621101#M1337935</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-06-01T22:46:29Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: JCPenney Mastercard upgrade!</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/JCPenney-Mastercard-upgrade/m-p/4621115#M1337939</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;@Anonymous wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;Congrats..Since you didn't initiate it, I don't think it counts against gardening.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;You could be right, but I think the rule says "No new accounts of any kind".&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;That might refer to the type of account rather than the the fact that it is new&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 01 Jun 2016 22:58:11 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/JCPenney-Mastercard-upgrade/m-p/4621115#M1337939</guid>
      <dc:creator>woodyman100</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-06-01T22:58:11Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: JCPenney Mastercard upgrade!</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/JCPenney-Mastercard-upgrade/m-p/4621122#M1337943</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;First, congrats to the OP. That's cool.'&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Second, I wish this converted and kept the same account. It's too bad that one has to open a new tradeline for the upgrade.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 01 Jun 2016 23:03:56 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/JCPenney-Mastercard-upgrade/m-p/4621122#M1337943</guid>
      <dc:creator>NichelleN</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-06-01T23:03:56Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: JCPenney Mastercard upgrade!</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/JCPenney-Mastercard-upgrade/m-p/4621176#M1337965</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/743949"&gt;@woodyman100&lt;/a&gt; wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;@Anonymous wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;Congrats..Since you didn't initiate it, I don't think it counts against gardening.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;You could be right, but I think the rule says "No new accounts of any kind".&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;That might refer to the type of account rather than the the fact that it is new&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;I know it mentions about no new tradelines and this will be one, so it's a possibility that it will restart gardening, but since it wasn't iniiated, here's hoping it doesn't restart the clock for you.&amp;nbsp; I wouldn't turn down the upgrade since it's a MC.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 01 Jun 2016 23:36:26 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-06-01T23:36:26Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: JCPenney Mastercard upgrade!</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/JCPenney-Mastercard-upgrade/m-p/4621178#M1337967</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;oh, I'm so jelly! I want my JC Penny mastercard. Hoping to hear from them soon.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 01 Jun 2016 23:37:37 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/JCPenney-Mastercard-upgrade/m-p/4621178#M1337967</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-06-01T23:37:37Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: JCPenney Mastercard upgrade!</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/JCPenney-Mastercard-upgrade/m-p/4621362#M1338031</link>
      <description>Congrats OP. To me if it was initiated on their end, in my own little world, that would not be stepping out of the garden. That is someone walking by and pouring water on it.</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 02 Jun 2016 01:43:14 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/JCPenney-Mastercard-upgrade/m-p/4621362#M1338031</guid>
      <dc:creator>RonM21</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-06-02T01:43:14Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: JCPenney Mastercard upgrade!</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/JCPenney-Mastercard-upgrade/m-p/4621363#M1338032</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Thanks everyone!&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/489652"&gt;@NichelleN&lt;/a&gt; wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;First, congrats to the OP. That's cool.'&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Second, I wish this converted and kept the same account. It's too bad that one has to open a new tradeline for the upgrade.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;This is my main concerned since I heard Synch reports visa/mc upgrades as new tradelines. I'm hoping that since I didn't initiate it I get a pass for my gardening status &lt;img id="smileytongue" class="emoticon emoticon-smileytongue" src="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif" alt="Smiley Tongue" title="Smiley Tongue" /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Just for reference, I opened this account back in June 2014 so it took two years for an upgrade. Used it a couple times at the beginning but not a whole lot. The most I put on it was like $87 an paid off days later. I haven't used it in about 6 months which reminds me that I need to charge something to keep it active so it doesn't get shut down for inactivity.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 02 Jun 2016 01:49:29 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/JCPenney-Mastercard-upgrade/m-p/4621363#M1338032</guid>
      <dc:creator>datrucking210</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-06-02T01:49:29Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: JCPenney Mastercard upgrade!</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/JCPenney-Mastercard-upgrade/m-p/4621381#M1338044</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;@RM21 wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;Congrats OP. To me if it was initiated on their end, in my own little world, that would not be stepping out of the garden. That is someone walking by and pouring water on it.&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;Thanks!&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I'll see it as the neighbors dog handling his business in my front yard. You know hate it when that happens but can't hate the dog.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 02 Jun 2016 01:52:06 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/JCPenney-Mastercard-upgrade/m-p/4621381#M1338044</guid>
      <dc:creator>datrucking210</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-06-02T01:52:06Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: JCPenney Mastercard upgrade!</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/JCPenney-Mastercard-upgrade/m-p/4621624#M1338114</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Wonderful news Congrats!&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 02 Jun 2016 05:08:29 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/JCPenney-Mastercard-upgrade/m-p/4621624#M1338114</guid>
      <dc:creator>pc01user</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-06-02T05:08:29Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: JCPenney Mastercard upgrade!</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/JCPenney-Mastercard-upgrade/m-p/4621632#M1338118</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I'd opt out, and stick with the store card.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Maybe you'll get a higher CL with a MC, but in my book that's&amp;nbsp;not&amp;nbsp;a sufficient&amp;nbsp;benefit&amp;nbsp;to close an old account and&amp;nbsp;open a new one. How likely are you to actually use the JC Penney MC outside the store when you have cards like the Sam's Club MC?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 02 Jun 2016 05:27:31 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/JCPenney-Mastercard-upgrade/m-p/4621632#M1338118</guid>
      <dc:creator>wasCB14</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-06-02T05:27:31Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: JCPenney Mastercard upgrade!</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/JCPenney-Mastercard-upgrade/m-p/4621676#M1338132</link>
      <description>Since they went back to the older style incentives just occasional use of that MasterCard will add up the jcp rewards. I would agree that Sam's is the stronger card</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 02 Jun 2016 06:52:40 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/JCPenney-Mastercard-upgrade/m-p/4621676#M1338132</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-06-02T06:52:40Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: JCPenney Mastercard upgrade!</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/JCPenney-Mastercard-upgrade/m-p/4681992#M1357827</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi ,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Could someone state how many pointsdrop in your case after the old account was closed and the new one was reported?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;There is just one day left on this to accept/decline and I am still unsure.&amp;nbsp; I used the credit simulator on credit karma and it said if closing my oldest card, jcp 11 years, I would drop by 20 points!&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I only have one other credit card that I would love to stop putting all purchases on and this upgrade would allow it. I do have a dell card also and that's it.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I would much appreciate it.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Thanks!&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;KELLIE.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 16 Jul 2016 14:38:26 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-07-16T14:38:26Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: JCPenney Mastercard upgrade!</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/JCPenney-Mastercard-upgrade/m-p/4682089#M1357854</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/805320"&gt;@datrucking210&lt;/a&gt; wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;Well yesterday in the mail I received a letter informing me that I was selected for an upgrade to the JCPenney Mastercard. Really surprised me. It does say if I don't want the upgrade to call by July 17th. Now I just recently jumped in the garden so this essentially will be coming out of the garden since it'll report as a new account, right?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;IMG src="http://i1379.photobucket.com/albums/ah147/carlos0627/2016-06-01%2015.47.20_zps4n8wcnyb.jpg" border="0" alt=" photo 2016-06-01 15.47.20_zps4n8wcnyb.jpg" width="438" height="580" /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;First , congrats on all your success, I know in the past when upgrades were offered, this did reset your garden clock, if you accepted, it is considered a new account.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Best of luck to you&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 16 Jul 2016 16:22:58 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>asphaltcowboy</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-07-16T16:22:58Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: JCPenney Mastercard upgrade!</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/JCPenney-Mastercard-upgrade/m-p/4682102#M1357856</link>
      <description>Congrats!! I agree with RM, in my head at least, even though it is considered a new account, i wouldnt count it as stepping out of the garden as you didnt seek it, just think of it as an extended reward for being a Pennys customer who maintained their account well&lt;img id="smileyhappy" class="emoticon emoticon-smileyhappy" src="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif" alt="Smiley Happy" title="Smiley Happy" /&gt;. I know downside is new account but upside is you can say you have a Pennys mc where not everyone can&lt;img id="smileyhappy" class="emoticon emoticon-smileyhappy" src="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif" alt="Smiley Happy" title="Smiley Happy" /&gt;. Make it fun and go buy something in Sears or Macys, maybe theyll get jelly haha ! If you accept, enjoy!!</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 16 Jul 2016 16:34:29 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>AverageJoesCredit</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-07-16T16:34:29Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: JCPenney Mastercard upgrade!</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/JCPenney-Mastercard-upgrade/m-p/4682376#M1357942</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I didn't even know the JCP Mastercard was still available--there's no mention of it on the JCP CC application page.....&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 16 Jul 2016 22:06:45 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Credit-hoarder</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-07-16T22:06:45Z</dc:date>
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