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    <title>topic Re: CSP Cardholders Who Are NOT Applying for a CSR in Credit Cards</title>
    <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/CSP-Cardholders-Who-Are-NOT-Applying-for-a-CSR/m-p/4725898#M1372520</link>
    <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;@Anonymous wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;If you travel and dine enough to justify having a CSP, then you probably should have a CSR instead, either always (if you have no AUs) or unless you spend a very specific amount on travel and dining (if you have AUs).&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;If you have no AUs, your effective AF is $150. &amp;nbsp;The following chart compares three cards: CSR ($150 AF, 3x travel/dining, no FTF), CSP ($95 AF, 2x travel/dining, no FTF), and QS ($0 AF, 1.5% everythng, no FTF). &amp;nbsp;Given a range of plausible UR point values, it compares the yearly travel/dining spend required for CSR or CSP to beat QS.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;A href="http://imgur.com/4TH7sCF" target="_self"&gt;http://imgur.com/4TH7sCF&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;This chart shows that for any valuation of UR, CSP always loses to QS (if you're a light spender) or CSR (if you're a heavy spender). &amp;nbsp;For example, if you think UR are worth 2cpp, then&amp;nbsp;QS is the best card if you spend less than $3333.33 on travel/dining per year, and CSR otherwise. &amp;nbsp;CSP also overtakes QS at $3800 yearly spend, but CSR is already better than both at that point.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;On the other hand, let's say that you have one AU; in that case, CSR's AF increases to $225. &amp;nbsp;The following chart compares that CSR with CSP and several other no-AF cash back cards: QS (1.5% no FTF), DC/Fido (2%), BofA TR with maximum relationship (2.625% no FTF), and Costco (3% travel/dining). &amp;nbsp;(This chart generally ignores the FTF issue since it's not really the point.)&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;A href="http://imgur.com/8Fu1y3T" target="_self"&gt;http://imgur.com/8Fu1y3T&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;In this case, depending on what other cards you have access to (and whether you care about FTF), CSP might be your best option, but only for a narrow range of annual spending. &amp;nbsp;Continuing the above example of 2cpp and QS, we see that this version of CSR now requires $5000 spend to beat QS, so CSP would in fact be the best option if you spend between $3800 (where QS&amp;gt;CSP) and $6500 (where CSR&amp;gt;CSP) on travel/dining per year. &amp;nbsp;Alternatively, comparing against DC, the sweet spot&amp;nbsp;for CSP is reduced to $4750-$6500. &amp;nbsp;For that matter, against BofA TR or Costco,&amp;nbsp;the spending thresholds&amp;nbsp;are once again high enough that CSP loses to the free card or CSR at all levels of spend.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Under this model, CSP's winning&amp;nbsp;range is at most a few thousand in comparison to QS, and less in comparison to DC. &amp;nbsp;Against the Costco card, CSP loses for pretty much every reasonable valuation of UR.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;As the number of AUs increases, however, CSP performs much better than CSR. &amp;nbsp;With 2 AUs, CSR requires a total of $10250 spend to overtake CSP (at 2cpp); with 3 AUs, that number is $14000.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;I was originally going to app for the CSR (and PC my CSP to FU) but now I'm not so sure.&amp;nbsp;For the places&amp;nbsp;I'd like to eventually go to, I would only get ~1.7cpp in value for economy tickets; based on my dining spend and the above chart the CSR would narrowly edge out the QS. There's also the thing with my spending $450 up front to get $300 back that bugs me a bit and more importantly, me being unsure I'll make the minimum spend in time.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I'm almost tempted to just spend the UR that I have and just get&amp;nbsp;a 2% cash back card for all of my spending. It seems like I got into travel rewards too late considering the much higher valuation that people have gotten in the past.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Tue, 23 Aug 2016 08:02:31 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2016-08-23T08:02:31Z</dc:date>
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      <title>CSP Cardholders Who Are NOT Applying for a CSR</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/CSP-Cardholders-Who-Are-NOT-Applying-for-a-CSR/m-p/4721041#M1370502</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Show of hands?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;For me, the CSP is a better deal right now. In order to account for the AF being $55 more after the $300 travel credit, I'd have to use other cards less for general purchases, and I'm not a card pumper &amp;amp; dumper so I really don't care about the signup bonus value in year one. Plus who knows, maybe we get grandfathered in to the CSR eventually with our $95 vs. $150 AFs.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 19 Aug 2016 01:55:00 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-08-19T01:55:00Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: CSP Cardholders Who Are NOT Applying for a CSR</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/CSP-Cardholders-Who-Are-NOT-Applying-for-a-CSR/m-p/4721057#M1370510</link>
      <description>Just got the CSP. Not interested in CSR yet. My spending habits dont fit that. Gotts fork that 450 right away. No thanks.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Ill get the freedom next month , then FU following month..</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 19 Aug 2016 02:11:04 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Random_idiot</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-08-19T02:11:04Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: CSP Cardholders Who Are NOT Applying for a CSR</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/CSP-Cardholders-Who-Are-NOT-Applying-for-a-CSR/m-p/4721640#M1370715</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;An annual fee of 450 is a little steep for MY spending patterns at This moment in time. I'm not a big fan of opening and closing accounts after a year or two. I prefer taking a long term view approach. So for me, no CSR for now. Of course that could change in the future.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 19 Aug 2016 16:45:51 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>grillandwinemaster</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-08-19T16:45:51Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: CSP Cardholders Who Are NOT Applying for a CSR</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/CSP-Cardholders-Who-Are-NOT-Applying-for-a-CSR/m-p/4721646#M1370718</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;No interest in either card, for me...&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 19 Aug 2016 16:48:07 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>galahad15</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-08-19T16:48:07Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: CSP Cardholders Who Are NOT Applying for a CSR</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/CSP-Cardholders-Who-Are-NOT-Applying-for-a-CSR/m-p/4721653#M1370720</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/745757"&gt;@Random_idiot&lt;/a&gt; wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;FONT color="#FF0000"&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;Just got the CSP.&lt;/STRONG&gt; &lt;/FONT&gt;Not interested in CSR yet. My spending habits dont fit that. Gotts fork that 450 right away. No thanks.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;FONT color="#FF0000"&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;Ill get the freedom next month , then FU following month..&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;No 5/24 concerns??&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 19 Aug 2016 16:53:45 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>DoroLucky</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-08-19T16:53:45Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: CSP Cardholders Who Are NOT Applying for a CSR</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/CSP-Cardholders-Who-Are-NOT-Applying-for-a-CSR/m-p/4721660#M1370722</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;The card looks good, and the fee is comparable to what I have so no issue there, just that Chase's transfer partners are not MY partners for the most part so pass on this one.....&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 19 Aug 2016 17:01:01 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>odd_dog</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-08-19T17:01:01Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: CSP Cardholders Who Are NOT Applying for a CSR</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/CSP-Cardholders-Who-Are-NOT-Applying-for-a-CSR/m-p/4721671#M1370723</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Beware of 5/24 before you go nuts&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 19 Aug 2016 17:11:31 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>darwin_wins</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-08-19T17:11:31Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: CSP Cardholders Who Are NOT Applying for a CSR</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/CSP-Cardholders-Who-Are-NOT-Applying-for-a-CSR/m-p/4721707#M1370734</link>
      <description>It's worth noting that the AF is not really $150. It's $450. You still need to use up the $300 travel credit which for somebody like me is actually quite hard to do. I'd literally have to find things to buy to use the credit on lol</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 19 Aug 2016 17:42:17 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-08-19T17:42:17Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: CSP Cardholders Who Are NOT Applying for a CSR</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/CSP-Cardholders-Who-Are-NOT-Applying-for-a-CSR/m-p/4721752#M1370750</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;None at all. Before the CSP, I was on 0/24. Now, I have the CSP and Discover. so I am at 2/24.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;My dream team for credit cards is CSP, Freedom, and FU. don't care about others. so after all that, I'll be at 4/5, with no interest in another card.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 19 Aug 2016 18:37:16 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Random_idiot</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-08-19T18:37:16Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: CSP Cardholders Who Are NOT Applying for a CSR</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/CSP-Cardholders-Who-Are-NOT-Applying-for-a-CSR/m-p/4721776#M1370754</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I am actually good with the CSP. I feel that having the Freedom with it make it more like 3X dining and travel on category spending. Maybe in the long term future but not now LOL&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 19 Aug 2016 18:52:23 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-08-19T18:52:23Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: CSP Cardholders Who Are NOT Applying for a CSR</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/CSP-Cardholders-Who-Are-NOT-Applying-for-a-CSR/m-p/4721796#M1370759</link>
      <description>People who can't afford it, fair enough. People who can afford it, big mistake.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;The 300 travel credit automatically posts which means if you travel $300 in a year, it's a straight up rebate/prepaid expense. Then you're looking at 95 vs 450-300 or 150 after year one&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;That extra 55 is paid back with 5.5k combined annual travel and dining if redeemed for statement credit (worst case) vs the CSP, or a mere 3.66k combined if redeemed for the travel credit on ultimate rewards at 1.5 cents per point. Haven't even mentioned the priority pass lounge access, which is definitely worth more than zero&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;CSP had 100k sign-up bonus back in 2011, and has had devaluation and reduced bonuses since. The best time to get the csr is asap</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 19 Aug 2016 19:15:55 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-08-19T19:15:55Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: CSP Cardholders Who Are NOT Applying for a CSR</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/CSP-Cardholders-Who-Are-NOT-Applying-for-a-CSR/m-p/4721892#M1370788</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I have CSP and CSR. Because I can and it makes sense for me to have both.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 19 Aug 2016 20:40:36 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-08-19T20:40:36Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: CSP Cardholders Who Are NOT Applying for a CSR</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/CSP-Cardholders-Who-Are-NOT-Applying-for-a-CSR/m-p/4722969#M1371136</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;may get it,&amp;nbsp; thinking about taking a week long vacation in California over christmas.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;100,000 reward points (with 50% bonus when redeemded for travel), plus $300 in travel credits is enough for 2 flights to Calif, and a rental card and a 5+ days in decent hotel.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;3% back on dining.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Probably won't keep the card after the first year,&amp;nbsp; we only plan on traveling once or twice a year unless work wants me to travel and I find to make the card useful in some way dispite not being used for actual costs.&amp;nbsp; Work travel usually goes on my Corp AMEX.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 20 Aug 2016 22:07:22 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/CSP-Cardholders-Who-Are-NOT-Applying-for-a-CSR/m-p/4722969#M1371136</guid>
      <dc:creator>jamesdwi</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-08-20T22:07:22Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: CSP Cardholders Who Are NOT Applying for a CSR</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/CSP-Cardholders-Who-Are-NOT-Applying-for-a-CSR/m-p/4722979#M1371138</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;The CSR looks to be a great card with loads of benefits and credits, but I'm just going to app for it because I really want to wait and app for the Amex Plat. My CSP and Cap1 QS receive about 85% of my monthly spend and are more than enough for me right now. Also, I'm already two cards deep with Chase (Slate and CSP) and prefer to spread more love to Amex &lt;img id="smileyvery-happy" class="emoticon emoticon-smileyvery-happy" src="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif" alt="Smiley Very Happy" title="Smiley Very Happy" /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 20 Aug 2016 22:24:53 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-08-20T22:24:53Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: CSP Cardholders Who Are NOT Applying for a CSR</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/CSP-Cardholders-Who-Are-NOT-Applying-for-a-CSR/m-p/4723011#M1371144</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I really don't know how so many people can be against applying for it. Yes if you dont have the cash for the annual fee or you have a questionable score (not trying to sound mean) I could see why not. However, due to the steep annual fee people with lower scores might still be approved.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I have to say this will be more first annual fee card anywhere near $500. The reason I think people are silly not to get it are:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;$300 travel credit, lots of things code towards travel including hotels, rental car, airline tickets, uber car service does I think etc. this is per calandar year so you can actually get $600 worth before the first renewal . Therefore you effectively will be paid to have hte card.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;It also has global entry credit I believe etc..&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;However! the #1 reason is 100k UR Points!!!! this is almost enough for a business class round trip ticket IE $3k or so.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I can't believe people wouldnt apply.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 20 Aug 2016 23:16:36 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>signaturecardmember</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-08-20T23:16:36Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: CSP Cardholders Who Are NOT Applying for a CSR</title>
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      <description>&lt;P&gt;If it's not 5-24 I'm jumping on it. &amp;nbsp;If it is I'll have to wait about 18 months, lol. &amp;nbsp;By then It will be a 50k bonus +5k for AU. uhhhhhg&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I will keep the card and close CSP/PRG.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 20 Aug 2016 23:37:20 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>elim</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-08-20T23:37:20Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: CSP Cardholders Who Are NOT Applying for a CSR</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/CSP-Cardholders-Who-Are-NOT-Applying-for-a-CSR/m-p/4723031#M1371149</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/792852"&gt;@signaturecardmember&lt;/a&gt; wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;I really don't know how so many people can be against applying for it. Yes if you dont have the cash for the annual fee or you have a questionable score (not trying to sound mean) I could see why not. However, due to the steep annual fee people with lower scores might still be approved.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I have to say this will be more first annual fee card anywhere near $500. The reason I think people are silly not to get it are:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;$300 travel credit, lots of things code towards travel including hotels, rental car, airline tickets, uber car service does I think etc. this is per calandar year so you can actually get $600 worth before the first renewal . Therefore you effectively will be paid to have hte card.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;It also has global entry credit I believe etc..&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;However! the #1 reason is 100k UR Points!!!! this is almost enough for a business class round trip ticket IE $3k or so.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I can't believe people wouldnt apply.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;I understand your points and they are the reason that I will be applying for the card. &amp;nbsp;However not everyone or even the majority of the posters on this board should apply for this card anymore than people should apply for the Amex Platinum when it has the 100K MR bonus. &amp;nbsp;These are travel cards and if you dont travel, and having read these forums for awhile that is a lot of people, you shouldnt apply for travel cards especialy the higher end ones. &amp;nbsp;There are far too many people that applied for threAmex Platinum card for the 100K MR points that had no idea how to use them and found out that they had no use for them yet were stuck with the card at least for awhile. &amp;nbsp;The same thing is sure to happen with this card. &amp;nbsp;It isnt the card of the century and is specifically designed to compete with the Citi Prestige and Amex Platinum. So unless you travel a moderate amount then this card isnt for you. &amp;nbsp;There are plenty of other cards that can be more beneficial to many people.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 21 Aug 2016 00:17:33 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-08-21T00:17:33Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: CSP Cardholders Who Are NOT Applying for a CSR</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/CSP-Cardholders-Who-Are-NOT-Applying-for-a-CSR/m-p/4723043#M1371153</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;@Anonymous wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;I have CSP and CSR. Because I can and it makes sense for me to have both.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;Word,&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 21 Aug 2016 00:14:21 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/CSP-Cardholders-Who-Are-NOT-Applying-for-a-CSR/m-p/4723043#M1371153</guid>
      <dc:creator>Credit_hawk</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-08-21T00:14:21Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: CSP Cardholders Who Are NOT Applying for a CSR</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/CSP-Cardholders-Who-Are-NOT-Applying-for-a-CSR/m-p/4723045#M1371154</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;@Anonymous wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/792852"&gt;@signaturecardmember&lt;/a&gt; wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;I really don't know how so many people can be against applying for it. Yes if you dont have the cash for the annual fee or you have a questionable score (not trying to sound mean) I could see why not. However, due to the steep annual fee people with lower scores might still be approved.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I have to say this will be more first annual fee card anywhere near $500. The reason I think people are silly not to get it are:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;$300 travel credit, lots of things code towards travel including hotels, rental car, airline tickets, uber car service does I think etc. this is per calandar year so you can actually get $600 worth before the first renewal . Therefore you effectively will be paid to have hte card.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;It also has global entry credit I believe etc..&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;However! the #1 reason is 100k UR Points!!!! this is almost enough for a business class round trip ticket IE $3k or so.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I can't believe people wouldnt apply.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;I understand your points and they are the reason tha I will be applying for the card. &amp;nbsp;However not everyone or even the majority of the posters on this board should apply for this card anymore than people should apply for the Amex Platinum when it has the 100K MR bonus. &amp;nbsp;These are travel cards and if you dont travel, and having read these forums for awhile that is a lot of people, you shouldnt apply for travel cards especialy the higher end ones. &amp;nbsp;There are far too many people that applied for threAmex Platinum card for the 100K MR points that had no idea how to use them and found out that they had no use for them yet were stuck with the card at least for awhile. &amp;nbsp;The same thing is sure to happen with this card. &amp;nbsp;It isnt the card of the century and is specifically designed to compete with the Citi Prestige and Amex Platinum. So unless you travel a moderate amount then this card isnt for you. &amp;nbsp;There are plenty of other cards that can be more beneficial to many people.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;Agreed. "Great card for some" does not mean "great card for everyone". Then you end up with people struggling to use their points.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 21 Aug 2016 00:15:33 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/CSP-Cardholders-Who-Are-NOT-Applying-for-a-CSR/m-p/4723045#M1371154</guid>
      <dc:creator>kdm31091</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-08-21T00:15:33Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: CSP Cardholders Who Are NOT Applying for a CSR</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/CSP-Cardholders-Who-Are-NOT-Applying-for-a-CSR/m-p/4723051#M1371157</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I have a CSP. I might get a CSR. I'll see how to pans out for those who apply and if I'll actually use it as I have 100,000 UR I haven't used yet as is.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 21 Aug 2016 00:21:51 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/CSP-Cardholders-Who-Are-NOT-Applying-for-a-CSR/m-p/4723051#M1371157</guid>
      <dc:creator>Credit_hawk</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-08-21T00:21:51Z</dc:date>
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