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    <title>topic Re: Amex CLD. Ha. in Credit Cards</title>
    <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Amex-CLD-Ha/m-p/415667#M138976</link>
    <description>&lt;P&gt;I've been imagining the programmers of this CLD filter lately, especially since the Great AmEx Website Downtime of last week. Just picturing them fine-tuning it... "We've run the filter over and over again and still need to cut a load of available credit. So today we've set it to CLD anyone whose name has the letter S in it or whose birthday is in March. Anyone whose birthday is in March AND who has an S in their name is obviously a very bad risk indeed, so we're going to close their accounts outright!"&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;It really doesn't seem to be much more sophisticated than that, based on the evidence I've seen around here. &lt;img id="smileyindifferent" class="emoticon emoticon-smileyindifferent" src="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif" alt="Smiley Indifferent" title="Smiley Indifferent" /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 04:52:18 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2009-01-14T04:52:18Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Amex CLD. Ha.</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Amex-CLD-Ha/m-p/408566#M137128</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I got a nice email from Amex this morning informing me they dropped my CL. I can't believe they CLD'd my Clear from $8900 to $1000.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The CSR says it was a myriad of things. Some true, some unfounded. Oh well.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I'm thinking of giving this card the axe. One year of PIF and I get a CLD. Awesome.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 03 Jan 2009 16:34:33 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Amex-CLD-Ha/m-p/408566#M137128</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2009-01-03T16:34:33Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Amex CLD. Ha.</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Amex-CLD-Ha/m-p/408570#M137129</link>
      <description>Sorry FM. How much of the credit limit did you typically use every month?&amp;nbsp;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 03 Jan 2009 16:42:31 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Amex-CLD-Ha/m-p/408570#M137129</guid>
      <dc:creator>smallfry</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2009-01-03T16:42:31Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Amex CLD. Ha.</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Amex-CLD-Ha/m-p/408578#M137131</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/12350"&gt;@smallfry&lt;/a&gt; wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;Sorry FM. How much of the credit limit did you typically use every month?&amp;nbsp;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;Not much on the Clear at all. In fact, I don't really care they did it. I put a couple plane tickets to Vegas on it before (PIF of course), and that was about it.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;However, I use my Platinum card a lot. I gotta call back and see if they messed with it. The Clear CSR said they did not, but we'll see.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 03 Jan 2009 16:50:31 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Amex-CLD-Ha/m-p/408578#M137131</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2009-01-03T16:50:31Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Amex CLD. Ha.</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Amex-CLD-Ha/m-p/408584#M137133</link>
      <description>Ouch, I'm so sorry!&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;They're moving on through their customer base, it looks like.</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 03 Jan 2009 17:07:24 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Amex-CLD-Ha/m-p/408584#M137133</guid>
      <dc:creator>haulingthescoreup</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2009-01-03T17:07:24Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Amex CLD. Ha.</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Amex-CLD-Ha/m-p/408595#M137135</link>
      <description>I'm pretty sure I know exactly what happened. However, at least they didn't touch my Platinum card. Still truely NPSSL.</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 03 Jan 2009 17:17:08 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Amex-CLD-Ha/m-p/408595#M137135</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2009-01-03T17:17:08Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Amex CLD. Ha.</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Amex-CLD-Ha/m-p/408696#M137170</link>
      <description>I guess they are moving through their customer base. I received an email CLD notice on New Years Eve. In the summer I had a zero balance on a $6000.00 limit clear card. They sent me a good balance transfer offer and I accepted it transferring $5000.00. I've been paying down the balance ($100.00 + interest) each month and not using the card for purchases. My balance is $4500.00 and they lowered my limit to $4700.00. Since I plan to just pay the card down and not use it this is ok, but I know this will hurt my score. I'm also concerned that my other cards that I do use (Cap.1 and Chase) will do the same and that would be a problem. Hearing that they decreased you from $8900 to $1000 (yikes) also makes me wonder if they will keep decreasing my limit as I pay down the balance. Sorr&lt;BR /&gt;y you got that bad Amex CLD news too!&amp;nbsp;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 03 Jan 2009 20:19:37 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Amex-CLD-Ha/m-p/408696#M137170</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2009-01-03T20:19:37Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Amex CLD. Ha.</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Amex-CLD-Ha/m-p/408699#M137173</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;that bites, sorry to hear it!&amp;nbsp; my clear was/is being chased too but i've managed to keep them at bay for the past 7 or 8 months, so i am kinda hoping they've changed tactics and are not chasing to close.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;@Anonymous wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;I'm pretty sure I know exactly what happened.&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;care to share?&amp;nbsp; from your post it seems like a 'use it or lose it' cld.&amp;nbsp; mine appeared to be 'balances on other accounts' chase.&amp;nbsp; btw, did you find a HT to your liking?&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 03 Jan 2009 20:26:34 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Amex-CLD-Ha/m-p/408699#M137173</guid>
      <dc:creator>score_building</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2009-01-03T20:26:34Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Amex CLD. Ha.</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Amex-CLD-Ha/m-p/408703#M137176</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Wow that sucks all the way around.&amp;nbsp; Sorry to hear it.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I just got nailed recently with a 10K CLD from my credit union MC that I have used forever.&amp;nbsp; The CLD was totally without merit but it pissed me off.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I'm waiting for my CLD from Am X.&amp;nbsp; I haven't been hit yet but from what I've been hearing, it's just a matter of time. &amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 03 Jan 2009 20:30:55 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Amex-CLD-Ha/m-p/408703#M137176</guid>
      <dc:creator>kimg727</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2009-01-03T20:30:55Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Amex CLD. Ha.</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Amex-CLD-Ha/m-p/408765#M137193</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Almost an $8000 decrease. &amp;nbsp;That is messed up.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The thing is, they decrease you &amp;nbsp;based on their "findings" and then say it will be reviewed again in a couple months...possibly raise the limit back (yeah right!) &amp;nbsp;but your score will (possibly) be even lower because of the chunk taken out of your utilization.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;When I got my Amex, I dropped three lower limit cards that when combined equalled the new amex's limit. &amp;nbsp;My total available credit stayed nearly the same. Score was the same. &amp;nbsp;But now it isn't and my recent amex decrease (way less than yours, $2500) has lowered my score. &amp;nbsp;Do they factor in that THEY are the ones that lowered your score when they do their "reviews"? &amp;nbsp;Regardless, I have a $500 limit card that has a $0 balance on it now...as soon as even the slightest &amp;nbsp;tap on the shoulder comes from that dinosaur company...it's cancelled. &amp;nbsp;I know it's only a $500 limit card, they could care less possibly, but I wouldn't put it past them to FR me. &amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Actually, just writing this post, I'm cancelling the card Monday. &amp;nbsp;Bye Amex. &amp;nbsp;Bye headaches. &amp;nbsp;By worrying. &amp;nbsp;Bye CLD's. &amp;nbsp;Bye liars. &amp;nbsp;Bye dinosaur company that treats customers like crap. &amp;nbsp;Byeeeeeee!&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 03 Jan 2009 22:22:23 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Amex-CLD-Ha/m-p/408765#M137193</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2009-01-03T22:22:23Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Amex CLD. Ha.</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Amex-CLD-Ha/m-p/408768#M137194</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Oh yeah....and bye bye card that is accepted in only about half of the places I have tried to use it. &amp;nbsp;Crap company.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The nutrition store: &amp;nbsp;"Oh sorry, we don't take Amex....only Visa, Mastercard and Discover".&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The nursery :&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;"Oh sorry, we don't take Amex....only Visa, Mastercard and Discover".&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;My gym:&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;"Oh sorry, we don't take Amex....only Visa, Mastercard and Discover".&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The Pizza place near my house :&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;"Oh sorry, we don't take Amex....only Visa, Mastercard and Discover".&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;DIV class="message-edit-history"&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV class="message-edit-history"&gt;&lt;SPAN class="edit-author"&gt;Message Edited by Jubeyy on &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class="local-date"&gt;01-03-2009&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class="local-time"&gt; 02:32 PM&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 03 Jan 2009 22:32:03 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Amex-CLD-Ha/m-p/408768#M137194</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2009-01-03T22:32:03Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Amex CLD. Ha.</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Amex-CLD-Ha/m-p/408780#M137197</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Sorry to hear that.&amp;nbsp; I just received my second notice today ( I also got an email), but I noticed it a couple of days after Christmas.&amp;nbsp; Like you, some were true regarding baddies, but there were more when I got the card.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Balances too high with AMex (what?) and other creditors.&amp;nbsp; I wonder if they were talking about my student loans, which are deferred....&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;They don't like Cap One as my auto lender.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I was told my excellent payment history was the reason I didn't lose as much as some people.&amp;nbsp; I PIF eventhough it's a revolver.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;They said they would review in 90 days.&amp;nbsp; My baddies may be gone, but I'm not searching for another auto lender.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Inquiries may go down, but I really (IMO) didn't have that many to begin with.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I certainly won't be a risk now, so I'll only have my monthly WW charge, which I will PIF as soon as it posts.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 03 Jan 2009 22:57:13 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Amex-CLD-Ha/m-p/408780#M137197</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2009-01-03T22:57:13Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Amex CLD. Ha.</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Amex-CLD-Ha/m-p/409292#M137343</link>
      <description>wow sorry to here about all the cld's. guess i'm among good company now.</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 01:24:55 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Amex-CLD-Ha/m-p/409292#M137343</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2009-01-05T01:24:55Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Amex CLD. Ha.</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Amex-CLD-Ha/m-p/409295#M137344</link>
      <description>ducky, you were the forums pioneer!&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Hasn't it been about six months now? Any news?</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 01:30:12 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Amex-CLD-Ha/m-p/409295#M137344</guid>
      <dc:creator>haulingthescoreup</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2009-01-05T01:30:12Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Amex CLD. Ha.</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Amex-CLD-Ha/m-p/409302#M137346</link>
      <description>Did they ever give you your CL back?</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 01:59:02 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Amex-CLD-Ha/m-p/409302#M137346</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2009-01-05T01:59:02Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Amex CLD. Ha.</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Amex-CLD-Ha/m-p/409304#M137347</link>
      <description>nope, and don't think i haven't asked.</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 02:07:17 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Amex-CLD-Ha/m-p/409304#M137347</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2009-01-05T02:07:17Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Amex CLD. Ha.</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Amex-CLD-Ha/m-p/409348#M137357</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Back lurking. Hope all of you had &amp;nbsp;a merry Christmas. Want to hear something weird? Back when they CLD my 20K bragging rights card that I had the one late payment of 3 days on, and the one they said they didn't like countrywide being my lender on, well, the next day I couldn't stand it and asked to close my Blue for Students.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Anway, the craziest thing is that they never really closed it, they read me all these things on the phone while closing it- but I get a statement and new balance report every month of 0. I figure what the heck- I'll let it sit there. &amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 03:39:43 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Amex-CLD-Ha/m-p/409348#M137357</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2009-01-05T03:39:43Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Amex CLD. Ha.</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Amex-CLD-Ha/m-p/409449#M137387</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Jubeyy you forgot one.&amp;nbsp; Bye Jubeyy you wont take Amex.....only Visa, Mastercard and Discover. Happy newyear.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Fellow forumer My2cents&lt;img id="smileywink" class="emoticon emoticon-smileywink" src="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif" alt="Smiley Wink" title="Smiley Wink" /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 10:56:38 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Amex-CLD-Ha/m-p/409449#M137387</guid>
      <dc:creator>My2cents</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2009-01-05T10:56:38Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Amex CLD. Ha.</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Amex-CLD-Ha/m-p/409475#M137397</link>
      <description>hey ducky and netpanther, good to see you guys! And fretless, don't feel bad, they got most of us with cld's. I closed mine last month and never looked back...</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 13:44:48 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Amex-CLD-Ha/m-p/409475#M137397</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2009-01-05T13:44:48Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Amex CLD. Ha.</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Amex-CLD-Ha/m-p/409872#M137521</link>
      <description>nothing like amex cld's to gel the community. seriously though, with the exception of credit secure all the action my blue sees is authorization holds only.</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 23:49:18 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Amex-CLD-Ha/m-p/409872#M137521</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2009-01-05T23:49:18Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Amex CLD. Ha.</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Amex-CLD-Ha/m-p/409998#M137578</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/117545"&gt;@My2cents&lt;/a&gt; wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;Jubeyy you forgot one.&amp;nbsp; Bye Jubeyy you wont take Amex.....only Visa, Mastercard and Discover. Happy newyear.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Fellow forumer My2cents&lt;img id="smileywink" class="emoticon emoticon-smileywink" src="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif" alt="Smiley Wink" title="Smiley Wink" /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;I would take Discover...but they see me as unworthy.....&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;I wanted a Discover after I saw that commercial with the really cute guy walking through the park talking to "bright". &amp;nbsp;That guy could make me apply for another Amex! &amp;nbsp;&lt;img id="smileyhappy" class="emoticon emoticon-smileyhappy" src="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif" alt="Smiley Happy" title="Smiley Happy" /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 01:34:09 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2009-01-06T01:34:09Z</dc:date>
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