topic Re: Annual Fees Count As Signup Bonus Spending? in Credit Cards

Annual Fees Count As Signup Bonus Spending?

BronzeTrader — Sat, 03 Dec 2016 22:39:17 GMT

Not sure. My CSR AF and $300 are both up in my activities. Still first statement.

Re: Annual Fees Count As Signup Bonus Spending?

Anonymous — Sat, 03 Dec 2016 22:44:06 GMT

@BronzeTrader wrote:
Not sure. My CSR AF and $300 are both up in my activities. Still first statement.

Re: Annual Fees Count As Signup Bonus Spending?

NRB525 — Sat, 03 Dec 2016 22:45:00 GMT

From the Offer Terms (which I know you read completely before applying)

To qualify and receive your bonus, you must make Purchases totaling $4,000 or more during the first 3 months from account opening. (“Purchases” do not include balance transfers, cash advances, cash-like charges such as travelers checks, foreign currency, and money orders, any checks that access your account, overdraft advances, interest, unauthorized or fraudulent charges, or fees of any kind, including an annual fee, if applicable.)

Congrats on the new card!

Re: Annual Fees Count As Signup Bonus Spending?

Anonymous — Sat, 03 Dec 2016 22:51:02 GMT

@NRB525 wrote:
From the Offer Terms (which I know you read completely before applying)

To qualify and receive your bonus, you must make Purchases totaling $4,000 or more during the first 3 months from account opening. (“Purchases” do not include balance transfers, cash advances, cash-like charges such as travelers checks, foreign currency, and money orders, any checks that access your account, overdraft advances, interest, unauthorized or fraudulent charges, or fees of any kind, including an annual fee, if applicable.)

Congrats on the new card!

I was just about to post that in case my one word answer was insufficient.

Just looking at the Freedom: Chase cardmembers who currently have or have had a Chase credit card in any Rewards Program associated with this offer, may not be eligible for a second Chase credit card in the same Rewards Program.

Wonder what that means. Note it is not even talking about eligble for bonus, but eligible for a card. So it could mean if you have a CSP/CSR etc, you might not be able to get a Freedom. Which would be contrary to all previous experience.

Re: Annual Fees Count As Signup Bonus Spending?

BronzeTrader — Sat, 03 Dec 2016 22:52:03 GMT

@NRB525 wrote:
From the Offer Terms (which I know you read completely before applying)

To qualify and receive your bonus, you must make Purchases totaling $4,000 or more during the first 3 months from account opening. (“Purchases” do not include balance transfers, cash advances, cash-like charges such as travelers checks, foreign currency, and money orders, any checks that access your account, overdraft advances, interest, unauthorized or fraudulent charges, or fees of any kind, including an annual fee, if applicable.)

Congrats on the new card!

How about the travel purchased, credited with the $300? I figure that counts.

Re: Annual Fees Count As Signup Bonus Spending?

NRB525 — Sat, 03 Dec 2016 22:54:30 GMT

@BronzeTrader wrote:
@NRB525 wrote:
From the Offer Terms (which I know you read completely before applying)

To qualify and receive your bonus, you must make Purchases totaling $4,000 or more during the first 3 months from account opening. (“Purchases” do not include balance transfers, cash advances, cash-like charges such as travelers checks, foreign currency, and money orders, any checks that access your account, overdraft advances, interest, unauthorized or fraudulent charges, or fees of any kind, including an annual fee, if applicable.)

Congrats on the new card!
How about the travel purchased, credited with the $300? I figure that counts.

I will wager that it does not. While the $300 was a purchase initially, you have now received, effectively, a credit for the $300, so it no longer looks like a purchase.

Re: Annual Fees Count As Signup Bonus Spending?

BronzeTrader — Sat, 03 Dec 2016 22:54:51 GMT

I was just about to post that in case my one word answer was insufficient.

Just looking at the Freedom: Chase cardmembers who currently have or have had a Chase credit card in any Rewards Program associated with this offer, may not be eligible for a second Chase credit card in the same Rewards Program.

Wonder what that means. Note it is not even talking about eligble for bonus, but eligible for a card. So it could mean if you have a CSP/CSR etc, you might not be able to get a Freedom. Which would be contrary to all previous experience.

That is the about the signup bonus rewards. They do not want you to get the same signup rewards twice, any rewards, such as two Freedom rewards. But you can still get two Freedom cards, but no rewards the 2nd card.

Same with AmEx Platinum reward. Just once.

Re: Annual Fees Count As Signup Bonus Spending?

BronzeTrader — Sat, 03 Dec 2016 22:56:40 GMT

@NRB525 wrote:
How about the travel purchased, credited with the $300? I figure that counts.
I will wager that it does not. While the $300 was a purchase initially, you have now received, effectively, a credit for the $300, so it no longer looks like a purchase.

That is fine. Have a lot plans for the holiday travel.

Re: Annual Fees Count As Signup Bonus Spending?

NRB525 — Sat, 03 Dec 2016 22:59:15 GMT

@BronzeTrader wrote:
I was just about to post that in case my one word answer was insufficient.

Just looking at the Freedom: Chase cardmembers who currently have or have had a Chase credit card in any Rewards Program associated with this offer, may not be eligible for a second Chase credit card in the same Rewards Program.

Wonder what that means. Note it is not even talking about eligble for bonus, but eligible for a card. So it could mean if you have a CSP/CSR etc, you might not be able to get a Freedom. Which would be contrary to all previous experience.
That is the about the signup bonus rewards. They do not want you to get the same signup rewards twice, any rewards, such as two Freedom rewards. But you can still get two Freedom cards, but no rewards the 2nd card.

Same with AmEx Platinum reward. Just once.

This is generally expected, that a bonus on one card can't be re-earned with the same card. But what LTL is pointing out relates to the rewards program, Ultimate Rewards.

It depends on whether a card brand in the Ultimate Rewards is a variation on that rewards program, in other words the earning rate of the card makes it a different "rewards program". So I would go with the idea that CSR, CSP, Freedom, and Freedom Unlimited, even though they are all part of the Ultimate Rewards Program, each have their unique earning (and more importantly redemption) program and that makes them four separate "Rewards Programs."

I hope.

Re: Annual Fees Count As Signup Bonus Spending?

Anonymous — Sat, 03 Dec 2016 23:10:44 GMT

@NRB525 wrote:
@BronzeTrader wrote:
I was just about to post that in case my one word answer was insufficient.

Just looking at the Freedom: Chase cardmembers who currently have or have had a Chase credit card in any Rewards Program associated with this offer, may not be eligible for a second Chase credit card in the same Rewards Program.

Wonder what that means. Note it is not even talking about eligble for bonus, but eligible for a card. So it could mean if you have a CSP/CSR etc, you might not be able to get a Freedom. Which would be contrary to all previous experience.
That is the about the signup bonus rewards. They do not want you to get the same signup rewards twice, any rewards, such as two Freedom rewards. But you can still get two Freedom cards, but no rewards the 2nd card.

Same with AmEx Platinum reward. Just once.
This is generally expected, that a bonus on one card can't be re-earned with the same card. But what LTL is pointing out relates to the rewards program, Ultimate Rewards.

It depends on whether a card brand in the Ultimate Rewards is a variation on that rewards program, in other words the earning rate of the card makes it a different "rewards program". So I would go with the idea that CSR, CSP, Freedom, and Freedom Unlimited, even though they are all part of the Ultimate Rewards Program, each have their unique earning (and more importantly redemption) program and that makes them four separate "Rewards Programs."

I hope.

Right, and I disagree that is is about the signup bonus rewards. In other programs, it more clearly states that you won't get the bonus, here it is about eligibility for the CARD. Now I really doubt that this would happen, but just interesting to see the language.

And, from what I have read elsewhere, the spending that is reimbursed DOES count towwards the $4K spend, but either way it probably doesn't make much difference.

Re: Annual Fees Count As Signup Bonus Spending?

BronzeTrader — Sat, 03 Dec 2016 23:11:18 GMT

@NRB525 wrote:

This is generally expected, that a bonus on one card can't be re-earned with the same card. But what LTL is pointing out relates to the rewards program, Ultimate Rewards.
It depends on whether a card brand in the Ultimate Rewards is a variation on that rewards program, in other words the earning rate of the card makes it a different "rewards program". So I would go with the idea that CSR, CSP, Freedom, and Freedom Unlimited, even though they are all part of the Ultimate Rewards Program, each have their unique earning (and more importantly redemption) program and that makes them four separate "Rewards Programs."
I hope.

No problem at all, to apply and keep CSR, CSP, Freedom and Unlimited, all in the UR family.