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    <title>topic Re: Amex cancelled my account in Credit Cards</title>
    <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Amex-cancelled-my-account/m-p/4916906#M1436096</link>
    <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/506688"&gt;@tcbofade&lt;/a&gt; wrote:&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;$1,000 / 25% over your credit line&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;It's worse than 25%... $1000 over on a $3000 is 33% over -- or 133% utilization.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Lots of folks get worried if a TL goes over 30% utilization in terms of AA from other prime banks. &amp;nbsp;133% = 400% more than 30% utilization. &amp;nbsp;Major red flag for a prime bank like Amex who handles their own risk and long term collections.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Wed, 12 Apr 2017 01:57:25 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2017-04-12T01:57:25Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Amex cancelled my account</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Amex-cancelled-my-account/m-p/4915605#M1435774</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Amex cancelled my account I had a Blue Cash card. I was over my CL but paid it in full after I received the letter that they were cancelling my account. How will this affect my credit score? And has anyone had an opportunity for reinstatement with them?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 10 Apr 2017 22:46:11 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2017-04-10T22:46:11Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Amex cancelled my account</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Amex-cancelled-my-account/m-p/4915636#M1435775</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Anything else going on in your credit files? Score drop, increase in utilization, late payment?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;There must be a reason for the account closure.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 10 Apr 2017 23:18:16 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2017-04-10T23:18:16Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Amex cancelled my account</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Amex-cancelled-my-account/m-p/4915742#M1435776</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I received a letter stating decrease in my fico score. When I called they said for me to take my time, increase my score, and re-apply again within 3 months.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 11 Apr 2017 01:10:19 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2017-04-11T01:10:19Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Amex cancelled my account</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Amex-cancelled-my-account/m-p/4915774#M1435777</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Has your overall utilization outside of AMEX also gone up? Applied for new credit since your account open? I thought I read on here they will soft pull you every so often and don't like credit seeking inquires for pyramiding?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 11 Apr 2017 01:38:55 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Amex-cancelled-my-account/m-p/4915774#M1435777</guid>
      <dc:creator>DollyLama</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2017-04-11T01:38:55Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Amex cancelled my account</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Amex-cancelled-my-account/m-p/4915834#M1435787</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;@Anonymous wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;Amex cancelled my account I had a Blue Cash card. I was over my CL but paid it in full after I received the letter that they were cancelling my account. How will this affect my credit score? And has anyone had an opportunity for reinstatement with them?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;In response to how it will affect your score, the only change to your score will be due to any change this creates in your UTI. Paying it off was a great move, since reporting $xx of 0 available would have KILLED your score.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;But the + TL will continue to report for 10 years. There will probably be a closed by credit grantor note but that will only potentially affect a manual review, and there are still 1000 reasons it could have happened.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 11 Apr 2017 02:40:51 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Amex-cancelled-my-account/m-p/4915834#M1435787</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2017-04-11T02:40:51Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Amex cancelled my account</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Amex-cancelled-my-account/m-p/4915855#M1435795</link>
      <description>Best thing is you paid off account so that leaves the door open with Amex. They probably just want you to work with whatever caused the closure.</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 11 Apr 2017 02:58:18 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>AverageJoesCredit</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2017-04-11T02:58:18Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Amex cancelled my account</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Amex-cancelled-my-account/m-p/4916058#M1435862</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;What was the CL? &amp;nbsp; Just surprised they actually closed rather than reduced, unless the CL was already very low&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 11 Apr 2017 12:58:22 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Amex-cancelled-my-account/m-p/4916058#M1435862</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2017-04-11T12:58:22Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Amex cancelled my account</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Amex-cancelled-my-account/m-p/4916294#M1435938</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I had the Green Card 2 years ago, ran 3 late 3 payments and ended up having the account charged up. Fast forward to about 6 months ago I started receiving letters saying that I was eligble for reinstatement with with their rebuilder Optima card if I paid my bill in full, which I did. I think its locked into a SL of $600 for 12 months, but ill take it. Hope this helps.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 11 Apr 2017 17:39:19 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Amex-cancelled-my-account/m-p/4916294#M1435938</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2017-04-11T17:39:19Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Amex cancelled my account</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Amex-cancelled-my-account/m-p/4916628#M1436000</link>
      <description>Amex gets spooked to easily. You went over the limit and they pulled the plug. I'm sure you can get back in with them in the future..</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 11 Apr 2017 21:50:11 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Amex-cancelled-my-account/m-p/4916628#M1436000</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2017-04-11T21:50:11Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Amex cancelled my account</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Amex-cancelled-my-account/m-p/4916655#M1436006</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;How far over what sort of limit?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Are we talking about a $30k balance on a $20k CL? Or $600 on a $500 CL?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 11 Apr 2017 22:18:00 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Amex-cancelled-my-account/m-p/4916655#M1436006</guid>
      <dc:creator>wasCB14</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2017-04-11T22:18:00Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Amex cancelled my account</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Amex-cancelled-my-account/m-p/4916782#M1436048</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;my CL was 3,000&lt;/P&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;@Anonymous wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;What was the CL? &amp;nbsp; Just surprised they actually closed rather than reduced, unless the CL was already very low&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 12 Apr 2017 00:06:59 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Amex-cancelled-my-account/m-p/4916782#M1436048</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2017-04-12T00:06:59Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Amex cancelled my account</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Amex-cancelled-my-account/m-p/4916788#M1436050</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;4,000 on a 3,000 CL, I paid it in full then saw the e-mail. They also made a comment about 3 return payments fees I had months ago!. But overall the bills have always been paid. I'm just hoping that in a few months they will reinstate itand I wish they gave a warning before they closed it instead of just randomly doing it. &lt;img id="smileysad" class="emoticon emoticon-smileysad" src="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif" alt="Smiley Sad" title="Smiley Sad" /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 12 Apr 2017 00:12:50 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Amex-cancelled-my-account/m-p/4916788#M1436050</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2017-04-12T00:12:50Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Amex cancelled my account</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Amex-cancelled-my-account/m-p/4916818#M1436060</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I am sorry to hear this my friend, I hope AmEx gives you an opportunity for reinstatement since it appears your account is in good standing and paid in full.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 12 Apr 2017 00:38:07 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Amex-cancelled-my-account/m-p/4916818#M1436060</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2017-04-12T00:38:07Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Amex cancelled my account</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Amex-cancelled-my-account/m-p/4916837#M1436066</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;@Anonymous wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;4,000 on a 3,000 CL, I paid it in full then saw the e-mail. They also made a comment about 3 return payments fees I had months ago!. But overall the bills have always been paid. I'm just hoping that in a few months they will reinstate itand I wish they gave a warning before they closed it instead of just randomly doing it. &lt;img id="smileysad" class="emoticon emoticon-smileysad" src="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif" alt="Smiley Sad" title="Smiley Sad" /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;Going over the CL plus having three payments returned, all within a few months? I get that it's a major pain, but I can't say the account closure is a shock to me.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Warnings would be nice, but they aren't common in the CC world.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 12 Apr 2017 00:48:14 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Amex-cancelled-my-account/m-p/4916837#M1436066</guid>
      <dc:creator>wasCB14</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2017-04-12T00:48:14Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Amex cancelled my account</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Amex-cancelled-my-account/m-p/4916841#M1436067</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;IMHO&amp;nbsp;&lt;STRONG&gt;one&lt;/STRONG&gt; returned payment is probably enough for AA, but 3 shows very very high risk. &amp;nbsp;Returned payments are probably one of the worst risk categories (other than missing a payment) -- going over credit limit is another high risk category. &amp;nbsp;I am not surprised they closed the account -- keep this in mind going forward with future creditors!&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 12 Apr 2017 00:50:53 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Amex-cancelled-my-account/m-p/4916841#M1436067</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2017-04-12T00:50:53Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Amex cancelled my account</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Amex-cancelled-my-account/m-p/4916849#M1436070</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;@Anonymous wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;4,000 on a 3,000 CL, I paid it in full then saw the e-mail. They also made a comment about 3 return payments fees I had months ago!. But overall the bills have always been paid. I'm just hoping that in a few months they will reinstate itand I wish they gave a warning before they closed it &lt;FONT color="#FF0000"&gt;instead of just randomly doing it.&lt;/FONT&gt; &lt;img id="smileysad" class="emoticon emoticon-smileysad" src="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif" alt="Smiley Sad" title="Smiley Sad" /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;First, it is my goal to be friendly and helpful, not rude or unkind.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;This was not random.&amp;nbsp; $1,000 / 25% over your credit line and THREE returned payments caused the closing.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;If you've already paid in full, (good for you!) there isn't much more that you can do except wait.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;90 days?&amp;nbsp; 180 days?&amp;nbsp; I'm not sure how long you'll need to wait, but give it some time and reapply for a new Amex.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Good luck!&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 12 Apr 2017 00:58:40 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>tcbofade</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2017-04-12T00:58:40Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Amex cancelled my account</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Amex-cancelled-my-account/m-p/4916906#M1436096</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/506688"&gt;@tcbofade&lt;/a&gt; wrote:&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;$1,000 / 25% over your credit line&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;It's worse than 25%... $1000 over on a $3000 is 33% over -- or 133% utilization.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Lots of folks get worried if a TL goes over 30% utilization in terms of AA from other prime banks. &amp;nbsp;133% = 400% more than 30% utilization. &amp;nbsp;Major red flag for a prime bank like Amex who handles their own risk and long term collections.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 12 Apr 2017 01:57:25 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Amex-cancelled-my-account/m-p/4916906#M1436096</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2017-04-12T01:57:25Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Amex cancelled my account</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Amex-cancelled-my-account/m-p/4916908#M1436097</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;ninja'd lol&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 12 Apr 2017 01:59:35 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Amex-cancelled-my-account/m-p/4916908#M1436097</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2017-04-12T01:59:35Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Amex cancelled my account</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Amex-cancelled-my-account/m-p/4916930#M1436106</link>
      <description>Returned payments are no bueno, mi amigo. Manage your other tradelines well and Amex will let you back in</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 12 Apr 2017 02:20:58 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2017-04-12T02:20:58Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Amex cancelled my account</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Amex-cancelled-my-account/m-p/4917008#M1436127</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;To be fair, Amex could have declined the charges over the CL, so I wouldn't blame the OP for that so much. &amp;nbsp; Three returned payments in addition though, I am surprised that they waited so long!&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Amex can be very forgiving, or not. &amp;nbsp; When they closed my card because they didn't like the spending pattern let's say, I was able to get a CLI on another Amex card straight away, a new Amex &amp;nbsp;card the following month, and a new card of the same type as the closed one two months later. &amp;nbsp; So make your record look as good as possible, and make sure no more returned payments, and you should be OK&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 12 Apr 2017 03:37:26 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2017-04-12T03:37:26Z</dc:date>
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