topic Re: Cap One Upgrade Offer - Yes,no? in Credit Cards

UPDATED -Cap One Upgrade Offer

Anonymous — Tue, 28 Nov 2017 18:40:03 GMT

Ok.. slow day at work.. checked the upgrade link.. about 4 years ago i started out with the usual $300 Platinum MC.. joined here in September, learned about the upgrade link, got the offer to upgrade to the QS.. today, got this offer.. now i know the Venture One has a bad rap but here but all i have EVER wanted is a travel card!!! .. should i? - BTW. the apr listed is a promotional APR i got over chat for 7 months so.. for everyone who says cap1 doesn't give lower apr's, yes they do!

Venture One®

Travelers earn 1.25 miles for every dollar spent

$0 Annual Fee

No application required
Same account and card number
19.9% APR remains unchanged
$3,750 Credit line remains unchanged
Please note, this upgrade doesn't include promotional offers or bonuses that are for new customers only

Re: Cap One Upgrade Offer - Yes,no?

Sandman771 — Tue, 28 Nov 2017 17:33:08 GMT

If that upgrade fits your needs and you can justify it, then go for it. Sounds like it fits your spending habits and the reward structure is what you want. In that case grab it.

Re: Cap One Upgrade Offer - Yes,no?

Sandman771 — Tue, 28 Nov 2017 17:37:40 GMT

In my best "Waterboy" voice. You can DOOOOOOOOO EEEEEEETT!

Re: Cap One Upgrade Offer - Yes,no?

Anonymous — Tue, 28 Nov 2017 17:39:40 GMT

thanks sandman..i do like the cash back but i get cash back on my discover anyway..idk if you remember but when i first joined i fought cap1 tooth and nail over the venture card, even wrote to the executive office..

just wanted to hear thoughts on the ventureone.. everyone is so against it.. seen a lot of posts saying noone should ever have it!! LOL..

Re: Cap One Upgrade Offer - Yes,no?

Sandman771 — Tue, 28 Nov 2017 17:42:44 GMT

I do remember and I'll never be part of the Cap One Family again since I burned them before and am still trying to pay them off. But again if you want the rewards then I would do it. But then again with your improved scores I would think an Amex would be a better fit especially if you use Delta a lot. The Delta card has been somewhat easier to get from what I've read. But at the end of the day you have to ask yourself. "what's in my wallet?"

Re: Cap One Upgrade Offer - Yes,no?

Anonymous — Tue, 28 Nov 2017 17:46:00 GMT

@Sandman771 wrote:
I do remember and I'll never be part of the Cap One Family again since I burned them before and am still trying to pay them off. But again if you want the rewards then I would do it. But then again with your improved scores I would think an Amex would be a better fit especially if you use Delta a lot. The Delta card has been somewhat easier to get from what I've read. But at the end of the day you have to ask yourself. "what's in my wallet?"

still can't get amex.. 5 years 1month from BK.. still got a whole year left.. haha

Re: Cap One Upgrade Offer - Yes,no?

LCC_mk14 — Tue, 28 Nov 2017 17:47:55 GMT

I PC'ed to the venture one from a platinum about a month ago. I don't find it too terrible.

Note though that the "miles" aren't really miles. The way it has been explained to me here on myfico is that they only have full value if redeemed for travel. You can still redeem them though for cash back, just at a lower value per mile.

Basically, its 1.25% cashback card, that only has that much value if redeemed for travel.

This article here helpd too http://onemileatatime.boardingarea.com/2015/08/04/capital-one-venture-card/

Re: Cap One Upgrade Offer - Yes,no?

Sandman771 — Tue, 28 Nov 2017 17:48:02 GMT

Well that answers that question then doesn't it? Go with what you can get until you can get something better.

Re: Cap One Upgrade Offer - Yes,no?

Anonymous — Tue, 28 Nov 2017 17:50:20 GMT

@LCC_mk14 wrote:
I PC'ed to the venture one from a platinum about a month ago. I don't find it too terrible.
Note though that the "miles" aren't really miles. The way it has been explained to me here on myfico is that they only have full value if redeemed for travel. You can still redeem them though for cash back, just at a lower value per mile.
Basically, its 1.25% cashback card, that only has that much value if redeemed for travel.

This article here helpd too http://onemileatatime.boardingarea.com/2015/08/04/capital-one-venture-card/

ok thanks!

Re: Cap One Upgrade Offer - Yes,no?

enjoimorenow — Tue, 28 Nov 2017 17:55:53 GMT

Maybe I'm missing something here, but I would never do this upgrade.

I really don't see any benefit to the Venture One over the QS..???

I know you want a travel card, but the Venture One is not really a "travel card" it is a cash back card that can only be redeemed for travel expenses (unless you want cash back then it has an even lower value).

So QS, you get 1.5% cash back on anything

V1 you get 1.25% cash back only on travel and less if you want actual cash back.

IMO, it makes a lot more sense to just keep the QS and use the cash back for travel or whatever you want.

Re: Cap One Upgrade Offer - Yes,no?

Anonymous — Tue, 28 Nov 2017 18:46:50 GMT

oh well..i just went and did it! for me its a big "take that" to capital one for denying me the card back when i applied for it a couple months ago..i emailed and wrote to the executive office, they called me and everything and still wouldn't give it to me.. ive been a customer for 4 years, paid every single payment on time and still.. big fat no. well guess what.. now i have one.. so there! LOL.. i have my discover anyway..
take that cap1.. haha!!!
sorry i know i sound like a 5 year old..

Re: Cap One Upgrade Offer - Yes,no?

AverageJoesCredit — Tue, 28 Nov 2017 18:15:44 GMT

Congrats Sasha, if a card works for you thats all that matters. I just find C1 too complicated for my average needs. Too many loops to jump through. It works for many but along with Sir Barclay, two companies i can never join anyway so ill rest peacefully on the sidelines watching everyone take turns on those rollercoasters

Re: Cap One Upgrade Offer - Yes,no?

Anonymous — Tue, 28 Nov 2017 18:47:49 GMT

yea i kind of have a love/hate relationship with them... they were my first card out of my BK and yet they drive me crazy LOL.. from what i read on here Barclay even scares me!

Re: Cap One Upgrade Offer - Yes,no?

Anonymous — Tue, 28 Nov 2017 20:33:50 GMT

i just have to say.. this upgrade definitely made my day.. maybe its not the most desirable travel card, but we dont travel a ton.. i just wanted one for when we do happen to maybe take our little trips for a couple days once a year to NH or whevever..

this definitely makes up for the disappointment i felt when the EO called me and said, STILL NO! i honestly still feel like they should take your history with them into consideration but of course they wont.

Re: Cap One Upgrade Offer - Yes,no?

fdrfan54 — Tue, 28 Nov 2017 21:02:05 GMT

Congrats Sasha.

Re: Cap One Upgrade Offer - Yes,no?

UncleB — Wed, 29 Nov 2017 02:22:50 GMT

@enjoimorenow wrote:
Maybe I'm missing something here, but I would never do this upgrade.

I really don't see any benefit to the Venture One over the QS..???

I know you want a travel card, but the Venture One is not really a "travel card" it is a cash back card that can only be redeemed for travel expenses (unless you want cash back then it has an even lower value).

So QS, you get 1.5% cash back on anything
V1 you get 1.25% cash back only on travel and less if you want actual cash back.

IMO, it makes a lot more sense to just keep the QS and use the cash back for travel or whatever you want.

^^^ This.

As long as you're happy that's all that matters, but just FYI you will now earn less rewards than before.

For new applicants there are a couple of reasons to consider the Venture One, namely it often has a better sign up bonus than the Quicksilver and it sometimes has an APR that's 1% lower than the Quicksilver, but after that it's always recommended to upgrade a Venture One to a QS since the rewards are higher (and unrestricted).

The good news is that in six months you'll be eligible to PC back.

Re: Cap One Upgrade Offer - Yes,no?

Anonymous — Wed, 29 Nov 2017 02:58:37 GMT

@UncleB wrote:
@enjoimorenow wrote:
Maybe I'm missing something here, but I would never do this upgrade.

I really don't see any benefit to the Venture One over the QS..???

I know you want a travel card, but the Venture One is not really a "travel card" it is a cash back card that can only be redeemed for travel expenses (unless you want cash back then it has an even lower value).

So QS, you get 1.5% cash back on anything
V1 you get 1.25% cash back only on travel and less if you want actual cash back.

IMO, it makes a lot more sense to just keep the QS and use the cash back for travel or whatever you want.

^^^ This.

As long as you're happy that's all that matters, but just FYI you will now earn less rewards than before.

For new applicants there are a couple of reasons to consider the Venture One, namely it often has a better sign up bonus than the Quicksilver and it sometimes has an APR that's 1% lower than the Quicksilver, but after that it's always recommended to upgrade a Venture One to a QS since the rewards are higher (and unrestricted).

The good news is that in six months you'll be eligible to PC back.

oh well.. im still over here laughing at cap1 that i got my way in the end... and im happy and i dont want to go back..besides since im such a goody 2 shoes i never used my cash back for anything other than to reduce my balance.. i have my discover for cash back rewards anyway---which ive also been applying toward the balance like a dope but just yesterday i opened a discover savings account.

of course i let BF transfer his 2% paypal rewards to his paypal and use them to buy what he wants... 😂

Re: Cap One Upgrade Offer - Yes,no?

UncleB — Wed, 29 Nov 2017 03:11:33 GMT

As long as you're pleased with what you have is really all that matters; I'm only mentioning the specifics here to make sure you're informed about what you're doing.

Some people use a specific card due to the color or design, and that's cool, too... to each his/her own.

Personally, I like to maximize my rewards as much as possible. Back when my BCP was only at $1k, I used it hard... my saying at the time was I wanted to "make 'em pay!"... as in, pay me more rewards. I was annoyed that my CL was lower than my other cards, but my primary concern was earning a higher rewards rate, not chasing higher credit lines (the CL was a concern as well, but was secondary - rewards are always tops with me).

While most of us here are concentrating on maximizing rewards, it's sometimes easy to forget other people might have other goals, which of course is fine as well. I only mention the specifics of the Venture One/QS in this thread for others who might be reading.

I'll close by mentioning to always remember the old Chinese curse... "May your every wish be granted...".

Re: Cap One Upgrade Offer - Yes,no?

Anonymous — Wed, 29 Nov 2017 04:14:19 GMT

This isn't the first thread where I've seen someone intentionally choose the lesser of two rewards options and I'm sure it won't be the last. You're the one that pays the bill so if you're happy with it then that's all that matters.

Re: Cap One Upgrade Offer - Yes,no?

SBR249 — Wed, 29 Nov 2017 05:30:08 GMT

I seem to remember that Venture One also had slightly looser underwriting standards as well compared to QS? Or am I just imagining that? In any case, I actually recently PCed my V1 of two years to the QS and for those who read the thread in the future, the miles convert 1:1 to cashback in that case. So if you find that you don't have that many eligible travel expenses to cash out and don't want to take a hit taking straight CB under V1, that's a one time get-out-of-jail card to liberate your rewards earnings, provided you have an upgrade offer that is.

But I do agree that V1 has a better sign up bonus than the QS ($200 vs $150).