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    <title>topic Re: AMEX FICO update change question in Credit Cards</title>
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    <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi JAR1979,&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I can't say that my DP will be all that helpful -&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;so far I have not applied for another personal card but I was approved for 2 business cards.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;unfortunately both resulted in HPs.&amp;nbsp; I've decided to lay off the personal cards for the time being - I'm still a little miffed at the way the Gold SUB panned out.&amp;nbsp; And now that I have 4 total cards, 2 personal/2 business I figure I should chill out on apps.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The business cards - I honestly can't remember if the language was 'you are preapproved' or 'get a decision in as little as 30 seconds'&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;but for the 2nd card, the Business PLatinum - AMEX actually called me to apply for another business card so I really woud have been shocked if I wasn't approved.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;and in terms of scoring - my Experian hasn't changed in like 3 months, it went down for 1 day when I had absolutely no balance reporting on any card for exactly 1 day and then rebounded back to the same 684.&amp;nbsp; but I have noticed that the FICO 8 that I can still in the app - it is showing random dates in the status so it looks like AMEX has been doing a decent amount of soft pulls, no only if I could stop getting credit here and there and start buidling the score back up....but that's a whole other conversation.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;but what I can say - after I applied for the Business Platinum I curiously went into the personal card section to check the pre-approval language and noticed that some of the cards started showing 'applying to expand your membership is easy'.&amp;nbsp; All of the co-branded cards showed pre-approved but the Magnet, BCP, ED, EDP cards were showing the change...and actually just checked, still are showing '...expand....'&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;the personal platinum/green, and then co-branded still showing pre-approved..... I'm guessing I'm currently at or near the limit of what AMEX wants to extend me so the pre-approval messages seem to be decently accurate but can't say I actually applied and have an experience to add........&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; good luck on your strategy.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Sat, 02 Mar 2019 14:09:08 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2019-03-02T14:09:08Z</dc:date>
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      <title>AMEX FICO update change question</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/AMEX-FICO-update-change-question/m-p/5410236#M1602730</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;AMEX has typically grabbed my FICO score on the 27th of the month every month.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Just noticed that they pulled my score for November on 3rd of the month.&amp;nbsp; Is it weird that they would pull it again after just 1 week?&amp;nbsp; Does a cycle change mean anything?&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Got curious and checked out the credit card ads section while logged in.&amp;nbsp; Most of the cards say 'congratulations you are pre approved' but have an APR range.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Is this 'cycle change' just an aberration that's part of the world of credit or am I reading too much into this?&amp;nbsp; I couldn't find a thread that explored this topic.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Also, with the pre-approved info mentioned above is that just a generic product framing since the APR is a range or is there some substance to the pre-approval message?&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;thank you&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 17 Nov 2018 22:00:22 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2018-11-17T22:00:22Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: AMEX FICO update change question</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/AMEX-FICO-update-change-question/m-p/5522395#M1626005</link>
      <description>OP, did you end up finding answer to your questions? Typically AMEX pre-approval message while logged into your account is somewhat solid, based on my experience- YMMV of course and others may have better input here.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;I would love to know more on AMEX credit score updates/timing as I won’t pull the trigger until I see my updated Experian FICO 8 displayed.... its been a month, no change.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Did you end up app’ing for any of those offers? Outcome?&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Thanks,&lt;BR /&gt;Josh</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 02 Mar 2019 01:05:49 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>JAR1979</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2019-03-02T01:05:49Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: AMEX FICO update change question</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/AMEX-FICO-update-change-question/m-p/5522522#M1626015</link>
      <description>I’m in the same boat - waiting for my score to update and hopefully see an expansion of the offered cards.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;OP, as stated it’s always YMMV but the majority of posts I’ve read here from members have indicated that preapproved usually translates to approved once the application is submitted.</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 02 Mar 2019 02:28:04 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2019-03-02T02:28:04Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: AMEX FICO update change question</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/AMEX-FICO-update-change-question/m-p/5523058#M1626052</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi JAR1979,&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I can't say that my DP will be all that helpful -&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;so far I have not applied for another personal card but I was approved for 2 business cards.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;unfortunately both resulted in HPs.&amp;nbsp; I've decided to lay off the personal cards for the time being - I'm still a little miffed at the way the Gold SUB panned out.&amp;nbsp; And now that I have 4 total cards, 2 personal/2 business I figure I should chill out on apps.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The business cards - I honestly can't remember if the language was 'you are preapproved' or 'get a decision in as little as 30 seconds'&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;but for the 2nd card, the Business PLatinum - AMEX actually called me to apply for another business card so I really woud have been shocked if I wasn't approved.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;and in terms of scoring - my Experian hasn't changed in like 3 months, it went down for 1 day when I had absolutely no balance reporting on any card for exactly 1 day and then rebounded back to the same 684.&amp;nbsp; but I have noticed that the FICO 8 that I can still in the app - it is showing random dates in the status so it looks like AMEX has been doing a decent amount of soft pulls, no only if I could stop getting credit here and there and start buidling the score back up....but that's a whole other conversation.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;but what I can say - after I applied for the Business Platinum I curiously went into the personal card section to check the pre-approval language and noticed that some of the cards started showing 'applying to expand your membership is easy'.&amp;nbsp; All of the co-branded cards showed pre-approved but the Magnet, BCP, ED, EDP cards were showing the change...and actually just checked, still are showing '...expand....'&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;the personal platinum/green, and then co-branded still showing pre-approved..... I'm guessing I'm currently at or near the limit of what AMEX wants to extend me so the pre-approval messages seem to be decently accurate but can't say I actually applied and have an experience to add........&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; good luck on your strategy.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 02 Mar 2019 14:09:08 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2019-03-02T14:09:08Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: AMEX FICO update change question</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/AMEX-FICO-update-change-question/m-p/5523392#M1626105</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I just so happen to check after reading your post.&amp;nbsp; Mine updates on the 8th of every month.&amp;nbsp; I currently have the Zync and have been looking to add another card.&amp;nbsp; I've been preapproved for the Paltinum, Gold, and branded cards but not the Cash Magnet, ED, EDP nor BCP.&amp;nbsp; I just tested all of them and I am now preapproved for every single card...very interesting.&amp;nbsp; I'm still not going to pull the trigger yet...I'll wait until it updates again on the 8th.&amp;nbsp; The amex TU updates on the 6th...which I still can't figure out why they have that one as well as the EX Fico.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 02 Mar 2019 19:52:41 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2019-03-02T19:52:41Z</dc:date>
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