topic Re: Chase FU Upgraded to Signature! in Credit Cards

Chase FU Upgraded to Signature!

Anonymous — Wed, 12 Jun 2019 09:58:44 GMT

I was recently approved for a CSP (https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Approvals/Chase-TRIFECTA-ACHIEVED-over-5-24/td-p/5623326) and have now re-allocated some CL to my FU to upgrade it to VS. Shoutout to the CSR who was able to process the reallocation and issue the VS card immediately! (The first time I did not have to HUCA about any Visa Signature-related question wih any lender!)

Re: Chase FU Upgraded to Signature!

VanderSnoot — Wed, 12 Jun 2019 10:36:04 GMT

Congratulations, OP! That's awesome! And please, tell me more about why you upgraded to VS (I didn't know this was an option and am intrigued).

Re: Chase FU Upgraded to Signature!

Marz2002 — Wed, 12 Jun 2019 10:42:56 GMT

YOU...

CONGRATS @GrasshopperStudent on your VS upgrade and enjoy your new card!!!

Re: Chase FU Upgraded to Signature!

Anonymous — Wed, 12 Jun 2019 14:50:34 GMT

Congrats on the upgrade!

Re: Chase FU Upgraded to Signature!

Anonymous — Wed, 12 Jun 2019 16:14:42 GMT

@Anonymous you are all MyFico! Believe you left the status of student a long time ago

Re: Chase FU Upgraded to Signature!

coldfusion — Wed, 12 Jun 2019 19:46:52 GMT

@VanderSnoot wrote:
Congratulations, OP! That's awesome! And please, tell me more about why you upgraded to VS (I didn't know this was an option and am intrigued).

The minutae can vary from issuer to issuer (better warranty protection, a degree of travel assistance, access to a concierge). For many users the biggest practical difference is an ability to temporarily exceed one's credit limit with a Signature card without fee or penalty as long as at least the entire overage and the mininum payment due from the previous statement are both paid before the card's next due date.

Not all issuers will upgrade a Visa/Visa Platinum card to a Visa Signature when a CL crosses a typically-$5K threshold. 2 examples I know of are the Ebates Platinum and the Uber Visa; if you want an upgrade to a VS you have to reapply for a new card.

It used to be that Signature cards by default reported as having a flexible spending limit but that practice has been waning.

Re: Chase FU Upgraded to Signature!

VanderSnoot — Wed, 12 Jun 2019 20:27:34 GMT

Thanks, @coldfusion. I hadn't paid attention to which (if any) of my Visas were VS, but now I will.

Re: Chase FU Upgraded to Signature!

coreysw12 — Wed, 12 Jun 2019 20:48:55 GMT

@coldfusion wrote:
Not all issuers will upgrade a Visa/Visa Platinum card to a Visa Signature when a CL crosses a typically-$5K threshold. 2 examples I know of are the Ebates Platinum and the Uber Visa; if you want an upgrade to a VS you have to reapply for a new card.

It used to be that Signature cards by default reported as having a flexible spending limit but that practice has been waning.

My CSP is reporting as a flexible spending account, I had to google what that was because I'd never heard of it before. Even though we technically "can" go overlimit without fees and such, to me it still seems like a bad idea to actually do that. I don't think Chase is a big fan of people who make a habit of exceeding their credit limits.

Oddly, my CFU card came with an SL of $5,600 but it isn't a Signature. I'm not sure if I care, since I'll be using the CSP Signature for booking travel anyways.

Re: Chase FU Upgraded to Signature!

coreysw12 — Wed, 12 Jun 2019 21:33:32 GMT

@VanderSnoot wrote:
Thanks, @coldfusion. I hadn't paid attention to which (if any) of my Visas were VS, but now I will.

The really cool one is Visa Infinite, which has the same features as Visa Signature but adds Emerald Executive status with National Rental Car, which is VERY nice if you rent cars from them. Basically it lets you rent a premium car for the same price as a regular midsize car.

The Sapphire Reserve is Chase's Visa Infinite offering, and I don't believe any of their other cards can be upgraded to a VI (except by PC'ing to a CSR.)

Re: Chase FU Upgraded to Signature!

VanderSnoot — Wed, 12 Jun 2019 21:17:47 GMT

@coreysw12 wrote:
@VanderSnoot wrote:
Thanks, @coldfusion. I hadn't paid attention to which (if any) of my Visas were VS, but now I will.
The really cool one is Visa Infinite, which has the same features as Visa Signature but adds Emerald Executive (top tier) status with National Rental Car, which is VERY nice if you rent cars from them. Basically it lets you rent a premium car for the same price as a regular midsize car.

The Sapphire Reserve is Chase's Visa Infinite offering, and I don't believe any of their other cards can be upgraded to one (except by PC'ing to a CSR.)

Ooooh, that's fun.

CSR is on my maybe list. If I stick with the cash back route, CSR doesn't make sense. If I want to start treating the family to upgraded vacations, then it does. Either way, I need to wait 2 years or for a magical green check mark before I'm in a position to consider applying.

Re: Chase FU Upgraded to Signature!

kdm31091 — Wed, 12 Jun 2019 21:39:18 GMT

There is little practical difference between Visa and Visa Sig. when things become super common like Visa signature is now, it’s not like they can offer very exclusive benefits. Some people just enjoy the little things like getting an upgrade, but most of us don’t use the benefits anyway.

Re: Chase FU Upgraded to Signature!

VanderSnoot — Wed, 12 Jun 2019 21:54:46 GMT

That's what I'm reading. Still, happy to know what I could be using my cards for, but am not.

Re: Chase FU Upgraded to Signature!

wasCB14 — Wed, 12 Jun 2019 22:09:32 GMT

@kdm31091 wrote:
There is little practical difference between Visa and Visa Sig. when things become super common like Visa signature is now, it’s not like they can offer very exclusive benefits. Some people just enjoy the little things like getting an upgrade, but most of us don’t use the benefits anyway.

Agreed. Visa simply doesn't get a big enough share of the fees to offer great benefits. Image is much less expensive than substance. With few exceptions, good benefits come from the issuer and often require the payment of an annual fee. The Visa Infinite airfare discount is nice but is offered at the discretion of the issuing bank.

Think about it...how many threads are there about wanting/getting Signature vs. people reporting a great experience using the benefits?

@coldfusion

Although my history isn't long enough to have personally experienced it, I've heard others say Chase was issuing cards with soft CLs before Visa Signature even existed.

Also, I've heard Barclays doesn't give a "tier upgrade" on any of their cards, not just Uber. At least, my Sallie Mae Platinum MC stayed Platinum when it autoCLI-ed over $5k.

Re: Chase FU Upgraded to Signature!

zerofire — Wed, 12 Jun 2019 23:47:53 GMT

@Anonymous wrote:
I was recently approved for a CSP (https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Approvals/Chase-TRIFECTA-ACHIEVED-over-5-24/td-p/5623326) and have now re-allocated some CL to my FU to upgrade it to VS. Shoutout to the CSR who was able to process the reallocation and issue the VS card immediately! (The first time I did not have to HUCA about any Visa Signature-related question wih any lender!)

Chase is a massive behemoth of a bank. They might be slow sometimes but they are not brain dead. Most banks have figured out that customers that know about the differences between Visa Classic, Visa Signature, and Visa Infinite will not let the upgrade slide past them until it is convenient for the bank. Over time there has been a small section of upgraded consumers that became a unnecessary call in category that Chase can fix with $0.50 of fresh plastic and a small donation to the USPS . To compensate Chase has evolved to just pay the small charge to make you get off the phone the first time and be happy. It is a cheap way to get good will, which is priceless. You are happy about it after all, right?

Something similar happened to me when Chase started to give out contactless cards. I called in and asked to be upgraded and the rep knew he just had to issue a fresh card. I got two fresh plastic rectangles in the mail in short order, stopped calling and using up rep time. The cards cost less than the rep's time for a bank. Amateur accountant can tell you to just pay for the plastic to cut costs.

Re: Chase FU Upgraded to Signature!

ChargedUp — Thu, 13 Jun 2019 00:38:14 GMT

First off, Congrats OP!

I just recently upgraded my BoA AAA Rewards to VS. (Having a $65K limit on a Visa Platinum just seems weird.) Anyhow, I had to be transferred to underwriting and asked a myriad of questions about income, employment, etc. (The girl was very pleasant and based right in Brea, CA!) She put in the request for VS status and dropped my APR by 2% while I had her on the line. It took about 20 days for my log in to start showing signature instead of platinum.

I requested Chase to upgrade my FU to VS and it was instant. Same with Elan Financial...

BBVA's CSR was clueless as to what VS was? He kept thinking I was asking for a CLI.. I told him NO! LOL! No HARD PULLS! I just want to know if Clearpoints is available as Visa Signature??? Then he said I needed to call Visa themselves! Uhh no, then he puts me on hold and comes back and tells me "Use the card a lot, travel and make large payments, then it will happen automatically.." At this point I was starting to smell the fertilizer, so I gave up.

Re: Chase FU Upgraded to Signature!

kdm31091 — Thu, 13 Jun 2019 01:04:07 GMT

@ChargedUp wrote:
First off, Congrats OP!

I just recently upgraded my BoA AAA Rewards to VS. (Having a $65K limit on a Visa Platinum just seems weird.) Anyhow, I had to be transferred to underwriting and asked a myriad of questions about income, employment, etc. (The girl was very pleasant and based right in Brea, CA!) She put in the request for VS status and dropped my APR by 2% while I had her on the line. It took about 20 days for my log in to start showing signature instead of platinum.

I requested Chase to upgrade my FU to VS and it was instant. Same with Elan Financial...

BBVA's CSR was clueless as to what VS was? He kept thinking I was asking for a CLI.. I told him NO! LOL! No HARD PULLS! I just want to know if Clearpoints is available as Visa Signature??? Then he said I needed to call Visa themselves! Uhh no, then he puts me on hold and comes back and tells me "Use the card a lot, travel and make large payments, then it will happen automatically.." At this point I was starting to smell the fertilizer, so I gave up.

Many banks make it a hassle and/or are clueless about it, and since the perks are not that great anyway, it's questionable how much effort it's worth.

There are lots of threads about wanting/getting Signature upgrades, but very few if any about a Signature benefit being used.