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    <title>topic Re: Amex possible titanium/black cards? in Credit Cards</title>
    <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/American-Express-Optio-Card/m-p/5958717#M1707255</link>
    <description>&lt;P&gt;I don't think those cards will come anytime soon. A launch like that would be seen as extremely tone deaf in crisis like this. Amex execs would clearly wait until progress is made.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Sat, 21 Mar 2020 20:19:23 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>blindambition</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2020-03-21T20:19:23Z</dc:date>
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      <title>American Express Optio Card ?</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/American-Express-Optio-Card/m-p/5880118#M1693180</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;The rumor is out there, the Card between Platinum and Centurion....OPTIO.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Can anyone chime in ?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 17 Jan 2020 17:33:03 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/American-Express-Optio-Card/m-p/5880118#M1693180</guid>
      <dc:creator>PointsBonus</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2020-01-17T17:33:03Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: American Express Optio Card ?</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/American-Express-Optio-Card/m-p/5880120#M1693182</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Still only a&amp;nbsp;rumor.&amp;nbsp; But to give credit where credit is due, I believe the news first broke right here on myFICO in the Garden Club thread not long before the DOC post.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;A href="https://www.doctorofcredit.com/rumor-american-express-to-launch-new-card-in-between-platinum-centurion/" target="_blank" rel="noopener"&gt;https://www.doctorofcredit.com/rumor-american-express-to-launch-new-card-in-between-platinum-centurion/&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 17 Jan 2020 17:36:37 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/American-Express-Optio-Card/m-p/5880120#M1693182</guid>
      <dc:creator>K-in-Boston</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2020-01-17T17:36:37Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: American Express Optio Card ?</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/American-Express-Optio-Card/m-p/5880155#M1693187</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/973576"&gt;@K-in-Boston&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;Still only a&amp;nbsp;rumor.&amp;nbsp; But to give credit where credit is due, I believe the news first broke right here on myFICO in the Garden Club thread not long before the DOC post.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;A href="https://www.doctorofcredit.com/rumor-american-express-to-launch-new-card-in-between-platinum-centurion/" target="_blank" rel="noopener"&gt;https://www.doctorofcredit.com/rumor-american-express-to-launch-new-card-in-between-platinum-centurion/&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;Where is the Garden Club ?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 17 Jan 2020 17:57:10 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/American-Express-Optio-Card/m-p/5880155#M1693187</guid>
      <dc:creator>PointsBonus</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2020-01-17T17:57:10Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: American Express Optio Card ?</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/American-Express-Optio-Card/m-p/5880159#M1693189</link>
      <description>Personal Finance:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;A href="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Personal-Finance/bd-p/Retirement" target="_blank"&gt;https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Personal-Finance/bd-p/Retirement&lt;/A&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 17 Jan 2020 17:58:59 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/American-Express-Optio-Card/m-p/5880159#M1693189</guid>
      <dc:creator>K-in-Boston</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2020-01-17T17:58:59Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: American Express Optio Card ?</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/American-Express-Optio-Card/m-p/5880168#M1693194</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/973576"&gt;@K-in-Boston&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;Personal Finance:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;A href="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Personal-Finance/bd-p/Retirement" target="_blank" rel="noopener"&gt;https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Personal-Finance/bd-p/Retirement&lt;/A&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;Yo, I thought we discussed this the other day. First rule of Garden Club: you don't talk about garden club&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 17 Jan 2020 18:05:24 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/American-Express-Optio-Card/m-p/5880168#M1693194</guid>
      <dc:creator>Brian_Earl_Spilner</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2020-01-17T18:05:24Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: American Express Optio Card ?</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/American-Express-Optio-Card/m-p/5880265#M1693231</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;While I don't have any information to give, reading the article I am intrigued at the card and definitely interested.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 17 Jan 2020 19:10:18 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/American-Express-Optio-Card/m-p/5880265#M1693231</guid>
      <dc:creator>Peteyglad</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2020-01-17T19:10:18Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: American Express Optio Card ?</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/American-Express-Optio-Card/m-p/5880278#M1693239</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;They recently raised the Centurion Card annual fee to $5,000/year, so I could see the Optio happening.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 17 Jan 2020 19:22:35 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/American-Express-Optio-Card/m-p/5880278#M1693239</guid>
      <dc:creator>kerplunk</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2020-01-17T19:22:35Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: American Express Optio Card ?</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/American-Express-Optio-Card/m-p/5880289#M1693242</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Color me skeptical.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Chase back when they released the CSR suggested they weren't done yet... but now we're seeing what amounts to a reduction or a refactoring of rewards and there's been nothing about releasing a super-CSR.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Centurion has never been about the rewards frankly, whereas Plat absolutely is.&amp;nbsp; Not quite sure where the middle ground is for anything other than AF's.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Admittedly I saw on Reddit the other day looking for further news about Jamie's post (which still seems only here) that this new Optio card would be the new "White Amex" &lt;img id="cattongue" class="emoticon emoticon-cattongue" src="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/i/smilies/16x16_cat-tongue.png" alt="Cat Tongue" title="Cat Tongue" /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 17 Jan 2020 19:31:22 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/American-Express-Optio-Card/m-p/5880289#M1693242</guid>
      <dc:creator>Revelate</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2020-01-17T19:31:22Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: American Express Optio Card ?</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/American-Express-Optio-Card/m-p/5880323#M1693261</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/973576"&gt;@K-in-Boston&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;Still only a&amp;nbsp;rumor.&amp;nbsp; But to give credit where credit is due, I believe the news first broke right here on myFICO in the Garden Club thread not long before the DOC post.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;A href="https://www.doctorofcredit.com/rumor-american-express-to-launch-new-card-in-between-platinum-centurion/" target="_blank" rel="noopener"&gt;https://www.doctorofcredit.com/rumor-american-express-to-launch-new-card-in-between-platinum-centurion/&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;In addition to the above, it was previously discussed in the link provided below.&amp;nbsp; Hopefully, depending on the dialogue here, this thread won't be locked.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;A href="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Rumor-Ultra-premium-Amex-card-being-developed/td-p/5801364" target="_blank"&gt;https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Rumor-Ultra-premium-Amex-card-being-developed/td-p/5801364&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 17 Jan 2020 19:57:46 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/American-Express-Optio-Card/m-p/5880323#M1693261</guid>
      <dc:creator>FinStar</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2020-01-17T19:57:46Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: American Express Optio Card ?</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/American-Express-Optio-Card/m-p/5880334#M1693267</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Lets be careful on this thread. The other i see has been locked due to some rule breaking. Please lets keep it clean and some what facts or maybe fortune telling or real real facts somone find on the web. As I find useful info int he next 10 months ( the Green card thread ) I will try to post it here.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Thank You all.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 17 Jan 2020 20:07:48 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/American-Express-Optio-Card/m-p/5880334#M1693267</guid>
      <dc:creator>PointsBonus</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2020-01-17T20:07:48Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: American Express Optio Card ?</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/American-Express-Optio-Card/m-p/5880371#M1693285</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Maybe it is or isn't a coincidence that the Zync is going bye bye in march, and now the rumor of a new product?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Although eliminating a $25 AF product and replacing it with one higher than Platinum seems like a large gap.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 17 Jan 2020 20:36:11 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/American-Express-Optio-Card/m-p/5880371#M1693285</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2020-01-17T20:36:11Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: American Express Optio Card ?</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/American-Express-Optio-Card/m-p/5880374#M1693287</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;@Anonymous&amp;nbsp;wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;Maybe it is or isn't a coincidence that the Zync is going bye bye in march, and now the rumor of a new product?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Although eliminating a $25 AF product and replacing it with one higher than Platinum seems like a large gap.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;It's not a large gap when you consider the Zync hasn't been available to new apps anyway.&amp;nbsp;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I think it seems very likely that AMEX would launch the Zync as the "white card" which is basically a black lite.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 17 Jan 2020 20:40:21 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/American-Express-Optio-Card/m-p/5880374#M1693287</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2020-01-17T20:40:21Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: American Express Optio Card ?</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/American-Express-Optio-Card/m-p/5880398#M1693299</link>
      <description>Sounds like another Bonvoy brainfart&lt;img id="smileywink" class="emoticon emoticon-smileywink" src="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif" alt="Smiley Wink" title="Smiley Wink" /&gt;. Who comes up with these names?</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 17 Jan 2020 21:56:15 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/American-Express-Optio-Card/m-p/5880398#M1693299</guid>
      <dc:creator>AverageJoesCredit</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2020-01-17T21:56:15Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: American Express Optio Card ?</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/American-Express-Optio-Card/m-p/5880407#M1693302</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Did you mean brain fart?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Because brsinfart sounds a little&amp;nbsp;&lt;SPAN&gt;Scandinavian&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 17 Jan 2020 21:08:45 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/American-Express-Optio-Card/m-p/5880407#M1693302</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2020-01-17T21:08:45Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: American Express Optio Card ?</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/American-Express-Optio-Card/m-p/5880464#M1693315</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Whenever I read about the Centurion card I have a hard time finding a benefit I'd pay for over and above the Platinum fee.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 17 Jan 2020 21:40:57 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/American-Express-Optio-Card/m-p/5880464#M1693315</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2020-01-17T21:40:57Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: American Express Optio Card ?</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/American-Express-Optio-Card/m-p/5880472#M1693319</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;@Anonymous&amp;nbsp;wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;Whenever I read about the Centurion card I have a hard time finding a benefit I'd pay for over and above the Platinum fee.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;It's the ultimate FLEX card. Many people who have the Black card don't care too much for the rewards or benifits. I know someone who has one and they have over 10 million MR points and never use a point. Never bother with the Centurion Lounge because all his flights are business/first class that come with lounge access already. &lt;img id="smileyvery-happy" class="emoticon emoticon-smileyvery-happy" src="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif" alt="Smiley Very Happy" title="Smiley Very Happy" /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 17 Jan 2020 21:59:12 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/American-Express-Optio-Card/m-p/5880472#M1693319</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2020-01-17T21:59:12Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: American Express Optio Card ?</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/American-Express-Optio-Card/m-p/5880485#M1693321</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I for one keep checking back here looking for the thread headline "Optio card applications are live!!!".&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I don't buy in to the speculation about points galore on all spend, it just doesn't make sense. Getting a perks card is my expectation, and then being able to consolidate my 6 AMEX cards down to a more reasonable list.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 17 Jan 2020 21:55:05 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/American-Express-Optio-Card/m-p/5880485#M1693321</guid>
      <dc:creator>NRB525</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2020-01-17T21:55:05Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: American Express Optio Card ?</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/American-Express-Optio-Card/m-p/5880488#M1693323</link>
      <description>Lol, id say Centurian is more 1%r than 2%r&lt;img id="smileywink" class="emoticon emoticon-smileywink" src="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif" alt="Smiley Wink" title="Smiley Wink" /&gt;. Rewards are for mere mortals&lt;img id="smileyhappy" class="emoticon emoticon-smileyhappy" src="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif" alt="Smiley Happy" title="Smiley Happy" /&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 17 Jan 2020 21:55:53 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/American-Express-Optio-Card/m-p/5880488#M1693323</guid>
      <dc:creator>AverageJoesCredit</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2020-01-17T21:55:53Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: American Express Optio Card ?</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/American-Express-Optio-Card/m-p/5880491#M1693324</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;In Ancient Rome, an &lt;FONT color="#999999"&gt;Optio&lt;/FONT&gt; was a soldier that was &lt;FONT color="#008000"&gt;second-in-command&lt;/FONT&gt; to a &lt;FONT color="#993366"&gt;Centurion&lt;/FONT&gt;. The name works because the card will be the second-most premium in the Amex card lineup. It also said that the card's annual fee would be $1,500. Nov 8, 2019 source is suppose to be American Express?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 17 Jan 2020 22:01:15 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/American-Express-Optio-Card/m-p/5880491#M1693324</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2020-01-17T22:01:15Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: American Express Optio Card ?</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/American-Express-Optio-Card/m-p/5880530#M1693335</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;@Anonymous&amp;nbsp;wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;In Ancient Rome, an &lt;FONT color="#999999"&gt;Optio&lt;/FONT&gt; was a soldier that was &lt;FONT color="#008000"&gt;second-in-command&lt;/FONT&gt; to a &lt;FONT color="#993366"&gt;Centurion&lt;/FONT&gt;. The name works because the card will be the second-most premium in the Amex card lineup. It also said that the card's annual fee would be $1,500. Nov 8, 2019 source is suppose to be American Express?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Wonder if they're ever gonna make a "Caesarean" Card! 🤣&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 17 Jan 2020 22:29:18 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/American-Express-Optio-Card/m-p/5880530#M1693335</guid>
      <dc:creator>JR_TX</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2020-01-17T22:29:18Z</dc:date>
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