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Help!!! Am I paying Cap 1 wrong to get a CLI??

Anonymous — Sat, 17 Oct 2020 13:40:33 GMT

I was upgraded from Platinum unsecured to Quicksilver (not QS1) a month ago after having it for a year. SL was $300 only had 1 cli so it's now at $400. I've been charging and paying in full around $600 monthly and pay it off before the statement cuts so my bill has 0 balance. I asked for cli and was denied saying Recent use of this account's existing credit line has been too low. I thought paying before statement cut was the right way from reading these forums but I'm clearly doing it wrong😒 Any help would be appreciated!!! TYIA

Re: Help!!! Am I paying Cap 1 wrong to get a CLI??

Anonymous — Sat, 17 Oct 2020 13:47:08 GMT

Same things happens to me and i use mine for 2-3 times the limit and pif. From what i gather these are just entry builder cards that will never grow to anything substantial. Basically we are in the bucketed bracket for Cap 1 on these. Use it, pay it on time, and after you build a relationship app for another card but these likely won't go up much with clis.

Re: Help!!! Am I paying Cap 1 wrong to get a CLI??

Anonymous — Sat, 17 Oct 2020 13:52:22 GMT

I'm not expecting 10,000 but I would at least like to think I could get to 12-1300 with it🙄 $400 is not something I expected to be at forever lol.

Re: Help!!! Am I paying Cap 1 wrong to get a CLI??

AverageJoesCredit — Sat, 17 Oct 2020 14:02:53 GMT

Its a Cap One starter card, doesnt matter how you pay or use, it will be bucketed. Make payments that work for you not to please a lender.

Re: Help!!! Am I paying Cap 1 wrong to get a CLI??

AverageJoesCredit — Sat, 17 Oct 2020 14:04:51 GMT

@Anonymous wrote:
I'm not expecting 10,000 but I would at least like to think I could get to 12-1300 with it🙄 $400 is not something I expected to be at forever lol.

Thats unrealistic expectations especially given the data points here support it. Its not like there have been a rash ofrecent posts about big cli here. Heck most people cant even get $100 cli on the Walmart card despite usage.

Re: Help!!! Am I paying Cap 1 wrong to get a CLI??

Anonymous — Sat, 17 Oct 2020 14:06:07 GMT

Kinda my reasoning I guess.... my $600 payments do work for me lol. $600 before a min $25 payment dues to me is grounds for an increase lol. I've read about the bucketed cards and understand them but I just cannot wrap my head around a bucket of $400!!

Re: Help!!! Am I paying Cap 1 wrong to get a CLI??

Anonymous — Sat, 17 Oct 2020 14:07:01 GMT

@Anonymous You won't be at this general CL level forever but from what I've read around here you are likely stuck with that low limit under Cap 1. Once you build some history, pay on time and improve your credit standing app for cards that will be more useful. It takes time but I wouldn't waste any of it expecting another dime from Cap 1 with this card. GL!

Re: Help!!! Am I paying Cap 1 wrong to get a CLI??

Anonymous — Sat, 17 Oct 2020 14:07:40 GMT

I'm not meaning 12-1300 in one sitting. 3-500 here and there is what I had imagined. I'm starting to get bummed about it lol

@AverageJoesCredit wrote:
@Anonymous wrote:
I'm not expecting 10,000 but I would at least like to think I could get to 12-1300 with it🙄 $400 is not something I expected to be at forever lol.
Thats unrealistic expectations especially given the data points here support it. Its not like there have been a rash ofrecent posts about big cli here. Heck most people cant even get $100 cli on the Walmart card despite usage.

Re: Help!!! Am I paying Cap 1 wrong to get a CLI??

Beast26 — Sat, 17 Oct 2020 14:26:38 GMT

Get a new card. I got a bucketed Quicksilver at $600 after putting $1400/month through it for 9 months they only gave me a $100 increase. I applied for discover and got a $9500 credit line! Get a card from another bank and forget about capital one!

Re: Help!!! Am I paying Cap 1 wrong to get a CLI??

Anonymous — Sat, 17 Oct 2020 14:46:29 GMT

My fico score has went up about 50 pats since I opened it. I guess my next question is about applying for new through them... if I applied for a new cap 1 card down the road is it the same as applying for the first time, or do the take into consideration that you already have a good standing account with them in their decision making. I guess I should also mention I have a ton of inquiries. I was looking for something better and didn't know the rules till I got myFICO. Here's my breakdown:

Cap1 QS $400

Credit one $300

Kohls $300 (opened last month, backed by Cap1)

Fingerhut closed good standing (was never used)

A CO with First Access Visa. On that I tried to pay but they sent it to collection agency already so I paid the CA and that was removed from my CR... but original CO shows.

I have no missed payments on any..

TU has a ton of inquiries no collections

EQ and EX are identical except a 5 year old Sprint Bill that will hold me down another 2 years😞. Just recently learned and got serious about my credit. The more I learn the more of a goal challenge it is for me. I want to feel secure and also appreciate the work it took to get there. Sorry if that's too much info but I do appreciate the help!

Re: Help!!! Am I paying Cap 1 wrong to get a CLI??

Anonymous — Sat, 17 Oct 2020 14:47:59 GMT

Maybe I should also note I began this jouney last Aug so everything is under 2 years... I wanna take my fresh-ish start and run with it😜

Re: Help!!! Am I paying Cap 1 wrong to get a CLI??

quikj9 — Sat, 17 Oct 2020 15:03:58 GMT

I don't think you're paying them incorrectly. They've just grouped that card into a particular tier that's unlikely to change. In order to give you a credit limit over 1K, Capital One would have to move that card to a higher tier.

If you haven't read this yet, I highly suggest it:

https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/General-Credit-Topics/Credit-Card-Asset-Backed-Securities-ABS-and-why-some-subprime/td-p/5083619

Tldr, it doesn't benefit Capital One to give you the increase you're looking for. If your profile supports the higher credit limit you seek, your best bet is to apply for another card through them or another lender.

You've also mentioned that you have quite a few inq's. Given that information, you might want to consider gardening until some of those no longer count against you.

Re: Help!!! Am I paying Cap 1 wrong to get a CLI??

AverageJoesCredit — Sat, 17 Oct 2020 15:10:48 GMT

@Anonymous wrote:
I'm not meaning 12-1300 in one sitting. 3-500 here and there is what I had imagined. I'm starting to get bummed about it lol
@AverageJoesCredit wrote:
@Anonymous wrote:
I'm not expecting 10,000 but I would at least like to think I could get to 12-1300 with it🙄 $400 is not something I expected to be at forever lol.
Thats unrealistic expectations especially given the data points here support it. Its not like there have been a rash ofrecent posts about big cli here. Heck most people cant even get $100 cli on the Walmart card despite usage.

Dont my friend, we all start somewhere. Eventually you will get cards that grow and with goid payments, you may even see auto luv. You arent alone in bucket cards, many are in same situation and even from other lenders, a cl can be stuck for years. As your aaoa grows, your score grows you will be able to branch out to other lenders and see growth. With Cap One its just not ideal to force spend in hopes of a bigger cli they just dont work that way. Best of luck going forward

Re: Help!!! Am I paying Cap 1 wrong to get a CLI??

AverageJoesCredit — Sat, 17 Oct 2020 15:13:04 GMT

@Anonymous wrote:
My fico score has went up about 50 pats since I opened it. I guess my next question is about applying for new through them... if I applied for a new cap 1 card down the road is it the same as applying for the first time, or do the take into consideration that you already have a good standing account with them in their decision making. I guess I should also mention I have a ton of inquiries. I was looking for something better and didn't know the rules till I got myFICO. Here's my breakdown:
Cap1 QS $400
Credit one $300
Kohls $300 (opened last month, backed by Cap1)
Fingerhut closed good standing (was never used)
A CO with First Access Visa. On that I tried to pay but they sent it to collection agency already so I paid the CA and that was removed from my CR... but original CO shows.
I have no missed payments on any..
TU has a ton of inquiries no collections
EQ and EX are identical except a 5 year old Sprint Bill that will hold me down another 2 years😞. Just recently learned and got serious about my credit. The more I learn the more of a goal challenge it is for me. I want to feel secure and also appreciate the work it took to get there. Sorry if that's too much info but I do appreciate the help!

Going forward, expect 3 hps from any Cap One application. What are your current fico scores? Your AAOA, average age of accounts?

Re: Help!!! Am I paying Cap 1 wrong to get a CLI??

Anonymous — Sat, 17 Oct 2020 16:37:06 GMT

Also my Eq is 619 TU 623 Ex 621

Re: Help!!! Am I paying Cap 1 wrong to get a CLI??

Anonymous — Sat, 17 Oct 2020 16:45:18 GMT

I have read this about a week ago!! What I don't understand is how they change tiers and if it would even be a possibility for me😞

Re: Help!!! Am I paying Cap 1 wrong to get a CLI??

Anonymous — Sat, 17 Oct 2020 16:46:27 GMT

Yes I definitely plan on gardening I believe it's a must for me!

Re: Help!!! Am I paying Cap 1 wrong to get a CLI??

fatcomic — Sat, 17 Oct 2020 16:50:37 GMT

Look at some other lenders, Discover or even Chase CFU. Cap1 is stingy with CLI's no matter what you do in my experience. I just sock drawer my Cap's and let some small recurring charges hit them to since they are my oldest accounts.

Re: Help!!! Am I paying Cap 1 wrong to get a CLI??

Anonymous — Sat, 17 Oct 2020 17:28:49 GMT

I tried but my inquiries are awful! I did try to prequalify for Discover it secures and they sent a letter stating too many inquiries... but I already knew that. Regular Discover it is my goal but i can't even get the secured. I'm afraid all my inquiries have messed me up for life, not just the 2 years. Like the bureaus will still label me as a risk because one time I had waaayyy to many🙄

Re: Help!!! Am I paying Cap 1 wrong to get a CLI??

Slabenstein — Sat, 17 Oct 2020 17:46:36 GMT

@Anonymous wrote:
I tried but my inquiries are awful! I did try to prequalify for Discover it secures and they sent a letter stating too many inquiries... but I already knew that. Regular Discover it is my goal but i can't even get the secured. I'm afraid all my inquiries have messed me up for life, not just the 2 years. Like the bureaus will still label me as a risk because one time I had waaayyy to many🙄

Time is all you need to recover from inq's. After one year, they become unscorable and after two years they fall off, regardless of how many you have.