topic Re: Virtual Card Numbers in Credit Cards

Virtual Card Numbers

Anonymous — Mon, 24 May 2021 13:12:13 GMT

Does anyone use virtual card numbers online?

Which credit card companies have that option?

Please share you experiences with them.

Re: Virtual Card Numbers

Anonymous — Mon, 24 May 2021 14:20:26 GMT

@Anonymous wrote:
Does anyone use virtual card numbers online?

Which credit card companies have that option?

Please share you experiences with them.

Capital One and Citi both offer them. Here are two articles, one for and one against from the same source

https://www.mybanktracker.com/credit-cards/faq/virtual-account-numbers-what-you-need-know-258440

https://www.mybanktracker.com/credit-cards/faq/why-virtual-credit-card-numbers-not-worth-it-167574

Re: Virtual Card Numbers

jcooks — Mon, 24 May 2021 14:23:35 GMT

Capital One is one that I can think of that you can make a VCC. You can also use Privacy.com. You link a bank account and you can create/destroy any time, set limit per VCC per transactions and lock a specific card to a vendor, etc. I used to use it when I was botting for sneaker releases and it worked out well until retailers caught on to it.

Re: Virtual Card Numbers

RickNATL — Mon, 24 May 2021 14:58:41 GMT

I've used them from Cap1 and Citi. No concerns to date. What in particular do you want to know?

Re: Virtual Card Numbers

Anonymous — Mon, 24 May 2021 16:12:12 GMT

That is it: no problems.

Thanks!

Re: Virtual Card Numbers

Loquat — Mon, 24 May 2021 21:19:49 GMT

I use VCN with Citi all the time. Especially for things that I know I will have to go back to months later to cancel or else the auto billing kicks in.

Currently I'm on a promo offer for WSJ. I don't want to pay the normal rate at the end of my promo period so I use a VCN and set it for a specific amount and expiration so if I forget to cancel, the card will decline anywhere when they go to charge.

Re: Virtual Card Numbers

Shooting-For-800 — Tue, 25 May 2021 12:05:14 GMT

I use Cap One for iffy purchases and it works great as a chrome browser extension.

GL!

Re: Virtual Card Numbers

Anonymous — Tue, 25 May 2021 17:21:52 GMT

I haven't run into issues yet but I have read that Capital One doesn't make it easy for a rep to figure out which card a charge was made on and Capital One doesn't show it on your statement or online either so if you have fraud on any of them, you'll either have to play the escalation game to find a rep who can tell you which card the fraud was on or you'll have to dump all of your VCCs when you order the new card. Not ideal if you have a lot of them but Capital One has been testing locking them to the first merchant they're used on so if you have that feature on your account it can only be used on that site and shouldn't be an issue.

I haven't used them on my Rewards+ and Apple Card's VCC feature only lets you have one at a time so I just purge the number every time I use it online and that hasn't posed any problems for me.

Re: Virtual Card Numbers

Anonymous — Tue, 25 May 2021 19:01:12 GMT

I guess we should add Paypal key as a sort of virtual card number. You can create and replace it as often as you need, and it can be linked to almost any non-paypal-family credit card.

Re: Virtual Card Numbers

blindambition — Fri, 28 May 2021 00:06:28 GMT

@Anonymous wrote:
I haven't run into issues yet but I have read that Capital One doesn't make it easy for a rep to figure out which card a charge was made on and Capital One doesn't show it on your statement or online either so if you have fraud on any of them, you'll either have to play the escalation game to find a rep who can tell you which card the fraud was on or you'll have to dump all of your VCCs when you order the new card. Not ideal if you have a lot of them but Capital One has been testing locking them to the first merchant they're used on so if you have that feature on your account it can only be used on that site and shouldn't be an issue.

I haven't used them on my Rewards+ and Apple Card's VCC feature only lets you have one at a time so I just purge the number every time I use it online and that hasn't posed any problems for me.

I'm not sure that's an issue anymore. In the iOS app, I now have option to copy actual card number, or create VCC. That's on both SO and QS.

Then there's now a Your VCC tab under Credit Wise. Shows all numbers in use, which can be named. Along with picker that flips to my different cards they belong with. Each VCC is used once with one vendor, it can be used on a subscription. Those two things clearly stated.

Re: Virtual Card Numbers

Anonymous — Fri, 28 May 2021 00:21:35 GMT

@blindambition wrote:
@Anonymous wrote:
I haven't run into issues yet but I have read that Capital One doesn't make it easy for a rep to figure out which card a charge was made on and Capital One doesn't show it on your statement or online either so if you have fraud on any of them, you'll either have to play the escalation game to find a rep who can tell you which card the fraud was on or you'll have to dump all of your VCCs when you order the new card. Not ideal if you have a lot of them but Capital One has been testing locking them to the first merchant they're used on so if you have that feature on your account it can only be used on that site and shouldn't be an issue.

I haven't used them on my Rewards+ and Apple Card's VCC feature only lets you have one at a time so I just purge the number every time I use it online and that hasn't posed any problems for me.
I'm not sure that's an issue anymore. In the iOS app, I now have option to copy actual card number, or create VCC. That's on both SO and QS.
Then there's now a Your VCC tab under Credit Wise. Shows all numbers in use, which can be named. Along with picker that flips to my different cards they belong with. Each VCC is used once with one vendor, it can be used on a subscription. Those two things clearly stated.

You have the option to create a VCC? I definitely don't have that.

The option to manage your VCCs is there but the statement still doesn't show which VCC was used for a transaction. I haven't used my card lately or I would make a transaction on one of them and call them to see if they're able to tell which VCC it came from. If they have rolled out the merchant lock to everyone now though, that's a moot point I suppose, I didn't know that the feature had left beta.

Re: Virtual Card Numbers

blindambition — Fri, 28 May 2021 00:33:50 GMT

@Anonymous wrote:
@blindambition wrote:
@Anonymous wrote:
I haven't run into issues yet but I have read that Capital One doesn't make it easy for a rep to figure out which card a charge was made on and Capital One doesn't show it on your statement or online either so if you have fraud on any of them, you'll either have to play the escalation game to find a rep who can tell you which card the fraud was on or you'll have to dump all of your VCCs when you order the new card. Not ideal if you have a lot of them but Capital One has been testing locking them to the first merchant they're used on so if you have that feature on your account it can only be used on that site and shouldn't be an issue.

I haven't used them on my Rewards+ and Apple Card's VCC feature only lets you have one at a time so I just purge the number every time I use it online and that hasn't posed any problems for me.
I'm not sure that's an issue anymore. In the iOS app, I now have option to copy actual card number, or create VCC. That's on both SO and QS.
Then there's now a Your VCC tab under Credit Wise. Shows all numbers in use, which can be named. Along with picker that flips to my different cards they belong with. Each VCC is used once with one vendor, it can be used on a subscription. Those two things clearly stated.
You have the option to create a VCC? I definitely don't have that.

The option to manage your VCCs is there but the statement still doesn't show which VCC was used for a transaction. I haven't used my card lately or I would make a transaction on one of them and call them to see if they're able to tell which VCC it came from. If they have rolled out the merchant lock to everyone now though, that's a moot point I suppose, I didn't know that the feature had left beta.

Yes. The section that had your card number to copy, I'm now given option to copy real, or create VCC. I've used without issue. Created one for Walmart, since I don't want real in their wallet.

Re: Virtual Card Numbers

Anonymous — Fri, 28 May 2021 02:07:49 GMT

@blindambition wrote:
@Anonymous wrote:
@blindambition wrote:
@Anonymous wrote:
I haven't run into issues yet but I have read that Capital One doesn't make it easy for a rep to figure out which card a charge was made on and Capital One doesn't show it on your statement or online either so if you have fraud on any of them, you'll either have to play the escalation game to find a rep who can tell you which card the fraud was on or you'll have to dump all of your VCCs when you order the new card. Not ideal if you have a lot of them but Capital One has been testing locking them to the first merchant they're used on so if you have that feature on your account it can only be used on that site and shouldn't be an issue.

I haven't used them on my Rewards+ and Apple Card's VCC feature only lets you have one at a time so I just purge the number every time I use it online and that hasn't posed any problems for me.
I'm not sure that's an issue anymore. In the iOS app, I now have option to copy actual card number, or create VCC. That's on both SO and QS.
Then there's now a Your VCC tab under Credit Wise. Shows all numbers in use, which can be named. Along with picker that flips to my different cards they belong with. Each VCC is used once with one vendor, it can be used on a subscription. Those two things clearly stated.
You have the option to create a VCC? I definitely don't have that.

The option to manage your VCCs is there but the statement still doesn't show which VCC was used for a transaction. I haven't used my card lately or I would make a transaction on one of them and call them to see if they're able to tell which VCC it came from. If they have rolled out the merchant lock to everyone now though, that's a moot point I suppose, I didn't know that the feature had left beta.
Yes. The section that had your card number to copy, I'm now given option to copy real, or create VCC. I've used without issue. Created one for Walmart, since I don't want real in their wallet.

Interesting. I just went through and can find nowhere in the app to make a VCC. For that matter I don't have an option to view my actual card numbers either. The Android app didn't even have VCCs and then crashed and reloaded and has them now but the same functionality as my iOS app. 🤷‍♂️

Anyone still use virtual credit cards (VCC), Shopsafe, Eno? Is there something better?

Anonymous — Thu, 24 Jun 2021 02:23:03 GMT

Bank of America got rid of their Shopsafe virtual accounts a year and half ago?

Citi looks like it's ending virtual credit cards in a month or two. Really going to miss this because of the 2% cash back.

I have 3 capital one cards and their "eno" firefox add on but I have never been able to get it to work. Is it only for chrome, how does the eno compare?

Are there any other alternatives?

Really hate putting my actual card on any website, checking statements to see if there's fraud, having to freeze accounts and get new cards with new numbers issued etc.

Re: Anyone still use virtual credit cards (VCC), Shopsafe, Eno? Is there something better?

GatorGuy — Thu, 24 Jun 2021 02:26:38 GMT

Turn on text notifications for every charge. No need to check statements. It's tells you anytime there is a charge.

Re: Anyone still use virtual credit cards (VCC), Shopsafe, Eno? Is there something better?

Anonymous — Thu, 24 Jun 2021 02:27:03 GMT

Where did you see Citi is axing their VCCs? They only just recently got rid of the app and their clunky flash website and replaced it with a site that can even be used on phones now.

I have a bunch of them with Capital One. I make them on my desktop with the Eno extension in Chrome and then I toggle them on and off on my phone as needed.

I also have PayPal Key but you only have one number so if I used that frequently I would have to make a new one for each purchase, not ideal. Same thing with Apple Card.

Re: Anyone still use virtual credit cards (VCC), Shopsafe, Eno? Is there something better?

Anonymous — Thu, 24 Jun 2021 02:28:00 GMT

@GatorGuy wrote:
Turn on text notifications for every charge. No need to check statements. It's tells you anytime there is a charge.

The point of VCCs for me is to avoid ever having to deal with those charges to begin with.

Re: Anyone still use virtual credit cards (VCC), Shopsafe, Eno? Is there something better?

simplynoir — Thu, 24 Jun 2021 02:31:01 GMT

@Anonymous wrote:
I also have PayPal Key but you only have one number so if I used that frequently I would have to make a new one for each purchase, not ideal. Same thing with Apple Card.

Do you mean a new Paypal Key credit card number or changing the card you want to use for Paypal Key? The former is a pain like you said, the latter just requires you changing the card you're paying with associated with current PPK card number

Re: Anyone still use virtual credit cards (VCC), Shopsafe, Eno? Is there something better?

Anonymous — Thu, 24 Jun 2021 02:50:53 GMT

@simplynoir wrote:
@Anonymous wrote:
I also have PayPal Key but you only have one number so if I used that frequently I would have to make a new one for each purchase, not ideal. Same thing with Apple Card.
Do you mean a new Paypal Key credit card number or changing the card you want to use for Paypal Key? The former is a pain like you said, the latter just requires you changing the card you're paying with associated with current PPK card number

I'm guessing the first, as changing the associated card does nothing to prevent fraud charges! (Just goes on a different card)

Re: Anyone still use virtual credit cards (VCC), Shopsafe, Eno? Is there something better?

Anonymous — Thu, 24 Jun 2021 04:54:51 GMT

@simplynoir wrote:
@Anonymous wrote:
I also have PayPal Key but you only have one number so if I used that frequently I would have to make a new one for each purchase, not ideal. Same thing with Apple Card.
Do you mean a new Paypal Key credit card number or changing the card you want to use for Paypal Key? The former is a pain like you said, the latter just requires you changing the card you're paying with associated with current PPK card number

I mean getting a new number. I use VCCs on sites I'm not sure about to try to cut down on fraud possibilities so I would be changing my number all the time. Same goes for my Apple Card. Each time I have used either of those, the number got changed immediately.

ETA: Also, thanks for the reminder to delete my Key. I don't want one sitting there after all the complaints I have seen about the hassle PayPal has given people when fraud hit. If I ever need it, I'll set it up again.