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What to do about my beloved Pottery Barn CC

pizza1 — Wed, 30 Jun 2021 22:22:09 GMT

So today in the mail, I get this huge packet from Capital One regarding "account information". Opened it, and too my surprise found out that my Pottery Barn CC is leaving Commenity and going to Cap1, AND its being converted to a Visa! Thats great and all, BUT I have a few concerns.

My PB CL is $49.3K! With it going to Cap1, It'll be interesting to see if they keep my CL intact. If they do, that'll put my total exposure with Cap1 at $97.3K between two cards. I already have the Venture at $48K. Even if the CL gets cut, it wont effect my overall utilzation, so not worried about that.

My "new terms" of 26.99% apr is a little less than desired, but I'd never carry a balance anyways. Only time Id carry a balance on this card would be on a furniture promo, but who knows if those promo's will even be available. The letter does say "they are working on a new Key Rewards program", and will let us know soon.

Also, at the end of letter it states:

*If for any reason your PB CC is not transferred to Cap1, the changes described in this document and the Cap1 agreements will not apply. Commenity Bank wiill communicate with you as necessary to administer and service your accout*

So, I suppose its possible that some accounts could stay with Commenity Bank. Cap1 has been very good too me, keeping my ridiculous CL intact on my Venture, but not sure how they would react to this. I love my PB CC...It always been my one store card I could never part with!!

Re: What to do about my beloved Pottery Barn CC

FinStar — Wed, 30 Jun 2021 22:32:52 GMT

You mentioned it is your "beloved" and you "love your PB CC". I would say that the 'plus' is that it'll be converted to a [Visa} network card where you can use it outside of PB and potentially earn other rewards.

My suggestion is to keep it (just like your PenFed PLOC) and see how it pans out once it crosses into Capital One's servicing. Since it appears you won't be in much of a need for a CLI, I don't see how the change could be a negative. Yes, Capital One does limit overall exposure once you reach a certain threshold, so you'd have to count any others including Neiman Marcus, Saks, Cabelas, etc., (if have any of those). Unless you're going for another Capital One core or PLCC in the near future, I would think you'd be ok.

Re: What to do about my beloved Pottery Barn CC

coldfusion — Wed, 30 Jun 2021 22:33:07 GMT

It's not like the opinion of anyone impacted is likely to sway any decision, so you might as well just ride it out and see what happens.

Re: What to do about my beloved Pottery Barn CC

pizza1 — Wed, 30 Jun 2021 22:43:43 GMT

@FinStar wrote:
You mentioned it is your "beloved" and you "love your PB CC". I would say that the 'plus' is that it'll be converted to a [Visa} network card where you can use it outside of PB and potentially earn other rewards.

My suggestion is to keep it (just like your PenFed PLOC) and see how it pans out once it crosses into Capital One's servicing. Since it appears you won't be in much of a need for a CLI, I don't see how the change could be a negative. Yes, Capital One does limit overall exposure once you reach a certain threshold, so you'd have to count any others including Neiman Marcus, Saks, Cabelas, etc., (if have any of those). Unless you're going for another Capital One core or PLCC in the near future, I would think you'd be ok.

@FinStar , nope. Dont have any other cards serviced by Cap1. I only have the Venture. So many changes! My Chase Amazon, and now my fav PB lol...

Re: What to do about my beloved Pottery Barn CC

Anonymous — Wed, 30 Jun 2021 22:44:22 GMT

I got the same packet. Can you point to where it says "... AND its being converted to a Visa"

was your pb already a visa?

Re: What to do about my beloved Pottery Barn CC

pizza1 — Wed, 30 Jun 2021 22:47:10 GMT

@Anonymous wrote:
I got the same packet. Can you point to where it says "... AND its being converted to a Visa"

was your pb already a visa?

@Anonymous , It would be in the very 1st paragraph. No, my PB cc wasnt a visa, PB never had Visa's, only store card.

Re: What to do about my beloved Pottery Barn CC

Anonymous — Wed, 30 Jun 2021 23:13:33 GMT

@pizza1 No soup for me. I compared it to my WS visa letter which says visa. The word visa doesn't appear (nor in my west elm letter).

Re: What to do about my beloved Pottery Barn CC

FinStar — Wed, 30 Jun 2021 23:19:31 GMT

Interesting. So, based on the above, it's possible some accounts are being converted to the Visa network, while others may remain store-specific.

@pizza1- can you post that specific section of your T&C's so others can reference it? I don't have any of the WS or PB cc's.

@Anonymous- can you share the same for your specific T&Cs? Just be sure to blurr out/mask any personal identifiable info.

Re: What to do about my beloved Pottery Barn CC

Anonymous — Wed, 30 Jun 2021 23:36:46 GMT

Actually I think the difference is in the list of program features in the paragraph "A new program is headed your way"

i compared all 3 letters and the only difference is a new line on my WS Visa : "the ability to use your card and earn rewards everywhere Visa is accepted." That line doesn't appear on the PB or west elm letters.

Re: What to do about my beloved Pottery Barn CC

pizza1 — Wed, 30 Jun 2021 23:50:09 GMT

@FinStar wrote:
Interesting. So, based on the above, it's possible some accounts are being converted to the Visa network, while others may remain store-specific.

@pizza1- can you post that specific section of your T&C's so others can reference it? I don't have any of the WS or PB cc's.
@Anonymous- can you share the same for your specific T&Cs? Just be sure to blurr out/mask any personal identifiable info.

@FinStar

Re: What to do about my beloved Pottery Barn CC

FinStar — Wed, 30 Jun 2021 23:52:29 GMT

@Anonymous wrote:
Actually I think the difference is in the list of program features in the paragraph "A new program is headed your way"

i compared all 3 letters and the only difference is a new line on my WS Visa : "the ability to use your card and earn rewards everywhere Visa is accepted." That line doesn't appear on the PB or west elm letters.

The Visa network reference should display in the Important Notice of CIT as posted by @pizza1 above.

Re: What to do about my beloved Pottery Barn CC

Horseshoez — Thu, 01 Jul 2021 00:07:44 GMT

My wife also received both a William Sonoma and Pottery Barn notification from Capital One; only her PB card is being converted to a VISA, the WS card contains no such language.

Re: What to do about my beloved Pottery Barn CC

ocheosa — Thu, 01 Jul 2021 16:48:38 GMT

@pizza1 wrote:
So today in the mail, I get this huge packet from Capital One regarding "account information". Opened it, and too my surprise found out that my Pottery Barn CC is leaving Commenity and going to Cap1, AND its being converted to a Visa! Thats great and all, BUT I have a few concerns.

My PB CL is $49.3K! With it going to Cap1, It'll be interesting to see if they keep my CL intact. If they do, that'll put my total exposure with Cap1 at $97.3K between two cards. I already have the Venture at $48K. Even if the CL gets cut, it wont effect my overall utilzation, so not worried about that.

My "new terms" of 26.99% apr is a little less than desired, but I'd never carry a balance anyways. Only time Id carry a balance on this card would be on a furniture promo, but who knows if those promo's will even be available. The letter does say "they are working on a new Key Rewards program", and will let us know soon.

Also, at the end of letter it states:
*If for any reason your PB CC is not transferred to Cap1, the changes described in this document and the Cap1 agreements will not apply. Commenity Bank wiill communicate with you as necessary to administer and service your accout*

So, I suppose its possible that some accounts could stay with Commenity Bank. Cap1 has been very good too me, keeping my ridiculous CL intact on my Venture, but not sure how they would react to this. I love my PB CC...It always been my one store card I could never part with!!

@pizza1 Congrats on the Upgrade! That's a helluva limit on your new Visa! Gotta admit I'm not at all surprised. This has been one of the reasons I've pushed my Overstock card limit because I felt the writing on the wall. Billing process has changed, lots of legal updates and I've had many technical problems with the website; when reported they could care less. Let's see if they also sell/upgrade the Overstock card.

Drat, may have to fire up the old CLI finger! "Just when I thought I was out, they pull me back in." -Michael Corleone