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    <title>topic Re: Upgrade Visa? in Credit Cards</title>
    <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Upgrade-Visa/m-p/6686716#M1850149</link>
    <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/1143663"&gt;@Dk62270&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;DIV class=""&gt;&lt;DIV class=""&gt;&lt;DIV class=""&gt;I dont know much about this card but have seen a few threads on the upgrade Visa. I assume it will be a TU hard pull?&amp;nbsp; Should I accept?&amp;nbsp; What is meant by a series of closed end loans and not a traditional credit card? My son is into bitcoin so I thought I would look into it.&amp;nbsp; How reliable are these pre-approvals ?&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV class=""&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV class=""&gt;&lt;DIV class=""&gt;Congratulations! Your Upgrade Card is pre-approved&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV class=""&gt;&lt;DIV class=""&gt;&lt;DIV class=""&gt;&lt;DIV class=""&gt;$12,000&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV class=""&gt;&lt;DIV class=""&gt;&lt;DIV class=""&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;UL class=""&gt;&lt;LI&gt;Unlimited&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;1.5%&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;back in bitcoin on payments&lt;A href="https://www.upgrade.com/funnel/pcl/offer#rewards-info" target="_blank" rel="noopener"&gt;*&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;Affordable monthly payments with no annual fee&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;$200&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;bonus when you open a Rewards Checking Plus account and make 3 debit card transactions&lt;A href="https://www.upgrade.com/funnel/pcl/offer#rewards-checking-bonus" target="_blank" rel="noopener"&gt;**&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;/UL&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV class=""&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;P&gt;Use your card wherever Visa is accepted&lt;A href="https://www.upgrade.com/funnel/pcl/offer#card-info" target="_blank" rel="noopener"&gt;1&lt;/A&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;or have funds sent directly to your bank account. Each&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;Upgrade Card&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;transaction will have a fixed payment period and a fixed APR. If you make more than one transaction in a statement period they will be combined into one fixed payment.&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;The&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;Upgrade Card&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;provides you with access to a series of closed end loans and is not a traditional credit card.&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;DIV class=""&gt;&lt;DIV class=""&gt;&lt;DIV class=""&gt;&lt;DIV class=""&gt;&lt;DIV class=""&gt;DRAW TERMS&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;W/&amp;nbsp;&lt;A target="_blank"&gt;OPTIONAL AUTOPAY&lt;/A&gt;&lt;A href="https://www.upgrade.com/funnel/pcl/offer#optional-autopay" target="_blank" rel="noopener"&gt;‡&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV class=""&gt;16.98%&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;APR&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV class=""&gt;&lt;DIV class=""&gt;&lt;DIV class=""&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV class=""&gt;&lt;DIV class=""&gt;&lt;DIV class=""&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV class=""&gt;&lt;DIV class=""&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;I have two of their cards and I really like them.&amp;nbsp; If you are going to use them for cash draws or BT cards, then maybe they aren't going to be what you are looking for, but using it as a credit card, I have no complaints.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;What they mean about it not being like a traditional credit card, what you end up charging on the card in a 30 day period then converts to a 3 year loan, so it doesn't report on your CR as a revolving account, but as a loan.&amp;nbsp; So you will end up with fixed payments at the fixed interest rate for 36 months and it will be paid off.&amp;nbsp; And as you pay it off, it does increase your available credit to use again.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;As far as the pre-approvals, I was pre-approved both times I tried their pre-approval tool and both times I was approved.&amp;nbsp; Of course, YMMV.&amp;nbsp; As far as which CRA they pull, I don't remember.&amp;nbsp; But for me, I like the cards and they come in really handy for some things plus I like the fact the way they report so it doesn't affect your percent of credit used.&amp;nbsp; But that also means that you can't use these cards for padding because they don't report as a traditional revolver.&amp;nbsp; So if you know what you are getting and going to use it for specific things (we juist got our house painted and I used one of their cards to pay for it because it makes it easy to budget it to pay for it), it works out great IMHO.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Fri, 16 Jun 2023 11:58:31 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>MileHigh96</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2023-06-16T11:58:31Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Upgrade Visa?</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Upgrade-Visa/m-p/6686266#M1850131</link>
      <description>&lt;DIV class=""&gt;&lt;DIV class=""&gt;&lt;DIV class=""&gt;I dont know much about this card but have seen a few threads on the upgrade Visa. I assume it will be a TU hard pull?&amp;nbsp; Should I accept?&amp;nbsp; What is meant by a series of closed end loans and not a traditional credit card? My son is into bitcoin so I thought I would look into it.&amp;nbsp; How reliable are these pre-approvals ?&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV class=""&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV class=""&gt;&lt;DIV class=""&gt;Congratulations! Your Upgrade Card is pre-approved&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV class=""&gt;&lt;DIV class=""&gt;&lt;DIV class=""&gt;&lt;DIV class=""&gt;$12,000&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV class=""&gt;&lt;DIV class=""&gt;&lt;DIV class=""&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;UL class=""&gt;&lt;LI&gt;Unlimited&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;1.5%&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;back in bitcoin on payments&lt;A href="https://www.upgrade.com/funnel/pcl/offer#rewards-info" target="_blank" rel="noopener"&gt;*&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;Affordable monthly payments with no annual fee&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;$200&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;bonus when you open a Rewards Checking Plus account and make 3 debit card transactions&lt;A href="https://www.upgrade.com/funnel/pcl/offer#rewards-checking-bonus" target="_blank" rel="noopener"&gt;**&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;/UL&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV class=""&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;P&gt;Use your card wherever Visa is accepted&lt;A href="https://www.upgrade.com/funnel/pcl/offer#card-info" target="_blank" rel="noopener"&gt;1&lt;/A&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;or have funds sent directly to your bank account. Each&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;Upgrade Card&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;transaction will have a fixed payment period and a fixed APR. If you make more than one transaction in a statement period they will be combined into one fixed payment.&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;The&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;Upgrade Card&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;provides you with access to a series of closed end loans and is not a traditional credit card.&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;DIV class=""&gt;&lt;DIV class=""&gt;&lt;DIV class=""&gt;&lt;DIV class=""&gt;&lt;DIV class=""&gt;DRAW TERMS&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;W/&amp;nbsp;&lt;A target="_blank"&gt;OPTIONAL AUTOPAY&lt;/A&gt;&lt;A href="https://www.upgrade.com/funnel/pcl/offer#optional-autopay" target="_blank" rel="noopener"&gt;‡&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV class=""&gt;16.98%&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;APR&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV class=""&gt;&lt;DIV class=""&gt;&lt;DIV class=""&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV class=""&gt;&lt;DIV class=""&gt;&lt;DIV class=""&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV class=""&gt;&lt;DIV class=""&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 15 Jun 2023 14:58:28 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Upgrade-Visa/m-p/6686266#M1850131</guid>
      <dc:creator>Dk62270</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2023-06-15T14:58:28Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Upgrade Visa?</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Upgrade-Visa/m-p/6686515#M1850132</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;You may want to read the fine print. Is there a 5% fee for cash draws and / or balance transfers. The card use to be a decent card but with recent changes it goes to the sock drawer.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 15 Jun 2023 23:29:34 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Upgrade-Visa/m-p/6686515#M1850132</guid>
      <dc:creator>C6</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2023-06-15T23:29:34Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Upgrade Visa?</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Upgrade-Visa/m-p/6686681#M1850148</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;There are several upgrade Visa cards so I assume you mean the upgrade Bitcoin Rewards Visa.&amp;nbsp; 1.5% CB (into BC), $200 bonus.&amp;nbsp; &lt;A href="https://www.upgrade.com/upgrade-card/bitcoin/" target="_blank"&gt;https://www.upgrade.com/upgrade-card/bitcoin/&lt;/A&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;I have the upgrade Cash Rewards Elite Visa which is 2.2% CB and a hefty $400 welcome bonus 'if' you go through KC.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;A href="https://www.creditkarma.com/creditcard/Upgrade06" target="_blank"&gt;https://www.creditkarma.com/creditcard/Upgrade06&lt;/A&gt;&amp;nbsp; (The bonus is 1/2 that through upgrade and 1/4 through Credit Sesame).&amp;nbsp; The card is not a conventional CC but if you turn on EarlyPay, you won't pay a cent in interest and it will essentially function as a conventional CC.&amp;nbsp; Uncapped 2.2% CB which is near the top of best non-cat spend cards.&amp;nbsp; $400 bonus with, literally, 3 $1 debit card purchases...&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;for the $400 bonus, you will need to also open a free upgrade cash rewards checking and make 3 transactions with the checking Visa debit&amp;nbsp;card.&amp;nbsp; Good luck!&amp;nbsp; &lt;img id="smileyhappy" class="emoticon emoticon-smileyhappy" src="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif" alt="Smiley Happy" title="Smiley Happy" /&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 16 Jun 2023 08:14:17 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Upgrade-Visa/m-p/6686681#M1850148</guid>
      <dc:creator>ptatohed</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2023-06-16T08:14:17Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Upgrade Visa?</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Upgrade-Visa/m-p/6686716#M1850149</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/1143663"&gt;@Dk62270&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;DIV class=""&gt;&lt;DIV class=""&gt;&lt;DIV class=""&gt;I dont know much about this card but have seen a few threads on the upgrade Visa. I assume it will be a TU hard pull?&amp;nbsp; Should I accept?&amp;nbsp; What is meant by a series of closed end loans and not a traditional credit card? My son is into bitcoin so I thought I would look into it.&amp;nbsp; How reliable are these pre-approvals ?&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV class=""&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV class=""&gt;&lt;DIV class=""&gt;Congratulations! Your Upgrade Card is pre-approved&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV class=""&gt;&lt;DIV class=""&gt;&lt;DIV class=""&gt;&lt;DIV class=""&gt;$12,000&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV class=""&gt;&lt;DIV class=""&gt;&lt;DIV class=""&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;UL class=""&gt;&lt;LI&gt;Unlimited&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;1.5%&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;back in bitcoin on payments&lt;A href="https://www.upgrade.com/funnel/pcl/offer#rewards-info" target="_blank" rel="noopener"&gt;*&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;Affordable monthly payments with no annual fee&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;$200&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;bonus when you open a Rewards Checking Plus account and make 3 debit card transactions&lt;A href="https://www.upgrade.com/funnel/pcl/offer#rewards-checking-bonus" target="_blank" rel="noopener"&gt;**&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;/UL&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV class=""&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;P&gt;Use your card wherever Visa is accepted&lt;A href="https://www.upgrade.com/funnel/pcl/offer#card-info" target="_blank" rel="noopener"&gt;1&lt;/A&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;or have funds sent directly to your bank account. Each&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;Upgrade Card&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;transaction will have a fixed payment period and a fixed APR. If you make more than one transaction in a statement period they will be combined into one fixed payment.&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;The&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;Upgrade Card&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;provides you with access to a series of closed end loans and is not a traditional credit card.&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;DIV class=""&gt;&lt;DIV class=""&gt;&lt;DIV class=""&gt;&lt;DIV class=""&gt;&lt;DIV class=""&gt;DRAW TERMS&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;W/&amp;nbsp;&lt;A target="_blank"&gt;OPTIONAL AUTOPAY&lt;/A&gt;&lt;A href="https://www.upgrade.com/funnel/pcl/offer#optional-autopay" target="_blank" rel="noopener"&gt;‡&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV class=""&gt;16.98%&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;APR&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV class=""&gt;&lt;DIV class=""&gt;&lt;DIV class=""&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV class=""&gt;&lt;DIV class=""&gt;&lt;DIV class=""&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV class=""&gt;&lt;DIV class=""&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;I have two of their cards and I really like them.&amp;nbsp; If you are going to use them for cash draws or BT cards, then maybe they aren't going to be what you are looking for, but using it as a credit card, I have no complaints.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;What they mean about it not being like a traditional credit card, what you end up charging on the card in a 30 day period then converts to a 3 year loan, so it doesn't report on your CR as a revolving account, but as a loan.&amp;nbsp; So you will end up with fixed payments at the fixed interest rate for 36 months and it will be paid off.&amp;nbsp; And as you pay it off, it does increase your available credit to use again.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;As far as the pre-approvals, I was pre-approved both times I tried their pre-approval tool and both times I was approved.&amp;nbsp; Of course, YMMV.&amp;nbsp; As far as which CRA they pull, I don't remember.&amp;nbsp; But for me, I like the cards and they come in really handy for some things plus I like the fact the way they report so it doesn't affect your percent of credit used.&amp;nbsp; But that also means that you can't use these cards for padding because they don't report as a traditional revolver.&amp;nbsp; So if you know what you are getting and going to use it for specific things (we juist got our house painted and I used one of their cards to pay for it because it makes it easy to budget it to pay for it), it works out great IMHO.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 16 Jun 2023 11:58:31 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Upgrade-Visa/m-p/6686716#M1850149</guid>
      <dc:creator>MileHigh96</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2023-06-16T11:58:31Z</dc:date>
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