topic Re: WF Propel to Autograph in Credit Cards

WF Propel to Autograph

Roger1071549 — Tue, 28 Mar 2023 16:57:35 GMT

Looks like Wells may be converting former Propel cards to the Autograph card. Mine is set to convert May 24.

Re: WF Propel to Autograph

M_Smart007 — Tue, 28 Mar 2023 17:15:34 GMT

@Roger1071549,

Did you receive an email? or ?

I have not received anything ..

I may end up with (2) Autograph cards

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Re: WF Propel to Autograph

Roger1071549 — Tue, 28 Mar 2023 17:23:39 GMT

I received a mailing. Based on the website they used, it looks like they are doing them in groups. The website for me is wellsfargo.com/propel-may-move. They put some FAQ there and timing for the may move.

Only thing disappointing, for me, is that it seems like the streaming category is more limited. Hulu and Sirius are both not on the Autograph list, which are the 2 I put on propel.

Re: WF Propel to Autograph

BigBS — Tue, 28 Mar 2023 17:44:09 GMT

Received my letter yesterday. Same conversion date.

Re: WF Propel to Autograph

M_Smart007 — Tue, 28 Mar 2023 17:54:05 GMT

@Roger1071549 wrote:
I received a mailing. Based on the website they used, it looks like they are doing them in groups. The website for me is wellsfargo.com/propel-may-move. They put some FAQ there and timing for the may move.

Only thing disappointing, for me, is that it seems like the streaming category is more limited. Hulu and Sirius are both not on the Autograph list, which are the 2 I put on propel.

@Roger1071549, Thank You! ...I will watch the mail.

https://sites.wf.com/propel-move-faq-Autograph/

"Unfortunately, we will no longer be servicing the Wells Fargo Propel Credit Card for existing customers; because of this change, we will be moving your product to our Wells Fargo Autograph Visa®"

Re: WF Propel to Autograph

chuckwood — Tue, 28 Mar 2023 18:25:38 GMT

Thanks for the post. I will keep an eye on the mail. Wonder if it matters if I already have a Autograph card also? Really don't need 2.

Re: WF Propel to Autograph

mrphilli — Tue, 28 Mar 2023 19:58:47 GMT

Thanks for the heads up! I was wondering what the Wells Fargo envelope in my USPS Informed Delivery digest was. Until I saw this thread, I just assumed it was an advertisement in the same way that my ISP sends me upgrade offers with the words "Important Information Enclosed" on the envelope.

I'm a little disappointed to see the end of the Propel line, but at least this puts a bow on the survey I received around the holidays that "requested my insights" on it.

@Roger1071549 wrote:
I received a mailing. Based on the website they used, it looks like they are doing them in groups. The website for me is wellsfargo.com/propel-may-move. They put some FAQ there and timing for the may move.

Only thing disappointing, for me, is that it seems like the streaming category is more limited. Hulu and Sirius are both not on the Autograph list, which are the 2 I put on propel.

I didn't use the Propel credit card for streaming services, but Wells Fargo's web page of eligible streaming services feels way too limited to be a complete list. They include Disney+ and ESPN+ in their list, but not Hulu? They're offered by the same parent company and can be bundled together, so that doesn't really make sense to me.

From a quick search online, I get the feeling that the list isn't comprehensive. Folks on Reddit claimed to receive 3x points for services (mostly streaming cable providers like Spectrum, Xfinity, etc.) not listed on the web page, so it might be worth a one month test to check.

Re: WF Propel to Autograph

Roger1071549 — Tue, 28 Mar 2023 20:58:23 GMT

Yea. I will definitely try it. Neither is too much ($3 for hulu and $6 for Sirius) so I wouldnt lose out on much.

I actually am happy this change is coming. There were no current benefits from being an American Express. Atleast I can now use the card at Costco.

Re: WF Propel to Autograph

NoMoreE46 — Tue, 28 Mar 2023 22:05:02 GMT

Thanks for sharing this @Roger1071549 !

Re: WF Propel to Autograph

UncleB — Tue, 28 Mar 2023 22:38:45 GMT

Well, few of us can say we didn't see this one coming.

I'm sorta sad to see the Propel going away, but on the other hand having the same account as a Visa will making using the card marginally more convenient (no more having to consider if Amex is accepted). I'm sure those who would use the card overseas are likely happy for the same reason.

On a positive note, doing PCs to other WF Visa cards might be a possiblity now. If the option becomes available, I might give some thought to changing mine over to an Active Cash... 🤔

Re: WF Propel to Autograph

sznthescore — Tue, 28 Mar 2023 22:45:45 GMT

Niceeee! The AutoGraph card seem to be a pretty decent card.

Re: WF Propel to Autograph

pauldc73 — Tue, 28 Mar 2023 22:58:37 GMT

Looks like your name changes also!

Re: WF Propel to Autograph

M_Smart007 — Tue, 28 Mar 2023 23:06:39 GMT

@pauldc73 wrote:
Looks like your name changes also!

From Henry Wells to Mary Wells

Re: WF Propel to Autograph

firefox100 — Wed, 29 Mar 2023 21:47:23 GMT

I also just got letter in the mail from Wf about Propel changing to Autograph, will need to up date my cell phone payment to the new card. Also may need to apply for the Bread Amex, because will not have any cards that work on Amex plat form.

Re: WF Propel to Autograph

MachoHombre — Thu, 30 Mar 2023 21:13:33 GMT

@Roger1071549 I received identical snail-mail correspondence. Last date to use my Propel card is August 03, 2023 (converting to Autograph May 24; 2023, so Propel swipes will no doubt incure Autogrpah benefits during the overlap)

****Bummer IMO. I am unique in preferring the AMEX network.****

*This IMO is part of the dumbing down of the once premium and hybrid-metal Propel AMEX card.

-A couple years ago (ish) we lost the AMEX bonus perks.

-Then we lost extended warranty and similiar.

-And now we're dumbed down to a 100% plastic Visa Signature card (like every other mid-tier card).

-I anticipate the dumbing down of the card further as we continue forward, there is no doubt a change from a once strong card that had premium benefits at a tremendous value with no AF, to a mediocre card that continues to offer less.

The Propel journey certainly is not as bad as the bait/switch some of us dummies experienced with the Uber/Barclay drama.

Overall, I've appreciated the Propel. My only relationship with WF, the card today is not what I signed up for. Instead continually dumbed-down. I'll also note its my only card that I have not received a CLI, in spite of moderate use and *always* PIF. Not a lot of LUV from WF, certainly their perogative, but I'll be taking my swipes elsewhere.

Not sure if the plastic Visa Signature replacement (yawn) will come out of the mailing envelope, but perhaps it'll get as far as my sock drawer. There are better VISA Signature options out there IMO.

I think I'm done with WF, I truly don't think they want to be in consumer lending. We can look to their slicing personal loans and the ever-present rumors that cards would be discontinued as validation.

See you in the rearview mirror.

Re: WF Propel to Autograph

Rockysocks — Thu, 30 Mar 2023 23:47:09 GMT

@MachoHombre wrote:
@Roger1071549 I received identical snail-mail correspondence. Last date to use my Propel card is August 03, 2023 (converting to Autograph May 24; 2023, so Propel swipes will no doubt incure Autogrpah benefits during the overlap)

****Bummer IMO. I am unique in preferring the AMEX network.****
*This IMO is part of the dumbing down of the once premium and hybrid-metal Propel AMEX card.
-A couple years ago (ish) we lost the AMEX bonus perks.
-Then we lost extended warranty and similiar.
-And now we're dumbed down to a 100% plastic Visa Signature card (like every other mid-tier card).

-I anticipate the dumbing down of the card further as we continue forward, there is no doubt a change from a once strong card that had premium benefits at a tremendous value with no AF, to a mediocre card that continues to offer less.

The Propel journey certainly is not as bad as the bait/switch some of us dummies experienced with the Uber/Barclay drama.

Overall, I've appreciated the Propel. My only relationship with WF, the card today is not what I signed up for. Instead continually dumbed-down. I'll also note its my only card that I have not received a CLI, in spite of moderate use and *always* PIF. Not a lot of LUV from WF, certainly their perogative, but I'll be taking my swipes elsewhere.

Not sure if the plastic Visa Signature replacement (yawn) will come out of the mailing envelope, but perhaps it'll get as far as my sock drawer. There are better VISA Signature options out there IMO.
I think I'm done with WF, I truly don't think they want to be in consumer lending. We can look to their slicing personal loans and the ever-present rumors that cards would be discontinued as validation.

See you in the rearview mirror.

Howdy, hey. I know losing the Amex offers and such was unfortunate, but I just wanted to let you know that the Autograph is also hybrid-metal and now gives more cash back rewards on cell phone bills than the Propel did all while continuing to give some of the highest ($$$) amounts of cell phone insurance coverage offered by a no-AF card. Also, I never got an auto CLI with the Propel either, but, after carrying a 25%-50% utilization balance for about 10 months during my 0% intro APR period, I received an auto CLI on my Autograph nearly as soon as I paid it off last week. I know it's all about personal preferences and what works for each of us, but I just wanted to share that it's not all grey clouds and rainstorms *coughBarclaysUbercough*.

Re: WF Propel to Autograph

M_Smart007 — Fri, 31 Mar 2023 02:17:39 GMT

@MachoHombre wrote:

-And now we're dumbed down to a 100% plastic Visa Signature card (like every other mid-tier card).

@MachoHombre, I hold both the Propel and The Autograph,

I can tell you the Autograph is not a 100% plastic card.

It is built EXACTLY like the Propel ....FWIW

Re: WF Propel to Autograph

NoMoreE46 — Fri, 31 Mar 2023 03:39:57 GMT

[Reminder] We are going a sly bit off topic with the dialogue regarding the cards' aesthetics, composition, etc.

In an effort to end the off topic dialogue, I will volunteer that the Propel and the Autograph each weigh 10 grams. (I have pics of these weigh-ins that can be uploaded to Smorgasbord if anyone wants.)

Back to the main discussion please.

Re: WF Propel to Autograph

SanDiegoCredit — Fri, 31 Mar 2023 03:55:59 GMT

@chuckwood wrote:
Thanks for the post. I will keep an eye on the mail. Wonder if it matters if I already have a Autograph card also? Really don't need 2.

Call WF and transfer your credit limit from the Propel to the Autograph and close the Propel. You can combine them from what I've seen.

Re: WF Propel to Autograph

FormerCollegeDJ — Fri, 31 Mar 2023 12:09:04 GMT

FWIW, Propel card holders may now be seeing information about the Propel Amex to Autograph Visa conversion in their online accounts. This morning when I checked my Propel account I saw the following information:

"We're converting your card to a Wells Fargo Autograph Visa Card on 5/22/23."

"Keep using your current card until your new card arrives."

"Here's the timeline:

*May 22, 2023: We'll begin converting and mailing out cards.

*August 4, 2023: We'll deactivate your current card."

"Don't want a new card? You can call us at the number on the back of your card to reject these changes and close the account."