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Delta makes drastic updates to Sky Club.

Saleen099 — Thu, 14 Sep 2023 09:45:02 GMT

Beginning on Feb. 1, 2025, Delta will limit how many times you can visit a Sky Club in each program year, as follows.

The Platinum Card® from American Express: six annual visits
The Business Platinum Card® from American Express: six annual visits
Delta SkyMiles® Reserve American Express Card: 10 annual visits (two annual guest passes will still be provided)
Delta SkyMiles® Reserve Business American Express Card: 10 annual visits

https://thepointsguy.com/news/delta-skyclub-access-changes/?fbclid=IwAR19detopRgLgqQsqp8_X903O_JXrPiwxodWNibCKzzMrSYs7Z7zZQusikA_aem_AbSj0JcdilEOvFr6GrA0R40LH-8h6sFq9qIP-XU47phejPoNr3js9_8c5MxMPnOxmvc

Re: Delta makes drastic updates to Sky Club.

FireMedic1 — Thu, 14 Sep 2023 10:27:29 GMT

Yep. Just on my local news from Orlando.

Re: Delta makes drastic updates to Sky Club.

Priory_Man — Thu, 14 Sep 2023 10:56:01 GMT

Not happy about this one, unless of course Amex open up a few more centurion clubs then all will be well again.

Re: Delta makes drastic updates to Sky Club.

swankytiger — Thu, 14 Sep 2023 11:57:05 GMT

the changes also basically gutted the usefullness of the Delta Gold, Plat and Reserve cards unless you are spending 3-5k per month on them

Re: Delta makes drastic updates to Sky Club.

Saleen099 — Thu, 14 Sep 2023 12:04:53 GMT

According to Flyertalk:
Beginning on Jan. 1, 2024, you’ll need to earn the following number of MQDs to enjoy Medallion status for 2025. (You earn MQDs each year between Jan. 1 and Dec. 31, and your status is then valid through Jan. 31, two years after the qualifying period.)
Tier New thresholds for 2025 status
Silver 6,000 MQDs
Gold 12,000 MQDs
Platinum 18,000 MQDs
Diamond 35,000 MQDs

$20 spend on the Delta Platinum = MQD1
$10 spend on the Delta Reserve = MQD1

Rollover MQMs convert at a 20 to 1 ratio to MQDs, Or 2:1 to Skymiles

Re: Delta makes drastic updates to Sky Club.

coldfusion — Thu, 14 Sep 2023 13:05:23 GMT

Well, that's going to make it a bit easier to decide on what to cull from the herd next year.

Re: Delta makes drastic updates to Sky Club.

redpat — Thu, 14 Sep 2023 14:28:10 GMT

Well reserve still gets companion for FC fair so it's still a keeper for me, avg fair has been well of $1K. Between flying Delta and American I'll have 16x for Sky Club between Reserve and Plat should be enough. We still use a fair amount to the coupon book, 5x air, and FHR that Plat has, so also a keeper for us.

Times are a changing with the higher cost of doing business for everyone.

Re: Delta makes drastic updates to Sky Club.

swankytiger — Thu, 14 Sep 2023 15:46:39 GMT

@redpat wrote:
Well reserve still gets companion for FC fair so it's still a keeper for me, avg fair has been well of $1K. Between flying Delta and American I'll have 16x for Sky Club between Reserve and Plat should be enough. We still use a fair amount to the coupon book, 5x air, and FHR that Plat has, so also a keeper for us.

Times are a changing with the higher cost of doing business for everyone.

Delta is defining a "SkyClub visit" as 1 visit every 3 hours at 1 airport

Re: Delta makes drastic updates to Sky Club.

7774x — Thu, 14 Sep 2023 16:17:21 GMT

@Saleen099 wrote:
Beginning on Feb. 1, 2025, Delta will limit how many times you can visit a Sky Club in each program year, as follows.
The Platinum Card® from American Express: six annual visits
The Business Platinum Card® from American Express: six annual visits
Delta SkyMiles® Reserve American Express Card: 10 annual visits (two annual guest passes will still be provided)
Delta SkyMiles® Reserve Business American Express Card: 10 annual visits

https://thepointsguy.com/news/delta-skyclub-access-changes/?fbclid=IwAR19detopRgLgqQsqp8_X903O_JXrPiwxodWNibCKzzMrSYs7Z7zZQusikA_aem_AbSj0JcdilEOvFr6GrA0R40LH-8h6sFq9qIP-XU47phejPoNr3js9_8c5MxMPnOxmvc

Dump the Cards and Delta Air.... Threshold requiremnets for 2025.....Silver Medallion 6,000 MQDs

Gold 12,000

Platnium 18,000

Diamond 35,000

Re: Delta makes drastic updates to Sky Club.

Mdg1307 — Thu, 14 Sep 2023 17:34:40 GMT

If Im understanding the article correctly, for Amex platinum, if you spend 75k this does not apply and visits are unlimited then. Is this correct?

Re: Delta makes drastic updates to Sky Club.

swankytiger — Thu, 14 Sep 2023 17:37:42 GMT

@Mdg1307 wrote:
If Im understanding the article correctly, for Amex platinum, if you spend 75k this does not apply and visits are unlimited then. Is this correct?

for the Vanilla Platinum and Delta Reserve yes.

Re: Delta makes drastic updates to Sky Club.

Mdg1307 — Thu, 14 Sep 2023 19:26:42 GMT

@swankytiger wrote:
@Mdg1307 wrote:
If Im understanding the article correctly, for Amex platinum, if you spend 75k this does not apply and visits are unlimited then. Is this correct?
for the Vanilla Platinum and Delta Reserve yes.
Got it, thanks ! Luckily this will not effect me.
Amex really should come out with the long rumored card in between platinum and centurion instead of making spend requirements on platinum though.

Re: Delta makes drastic updates to Sky Club.

redpat — Thu, 14 Sep 2023 19:27:41 GMT

@swankytiger wrote:

@redpat wrote:
Well reserve still gets companion for FC fair so it's still a keeper for me, avg fair has been well of $1K. Between flying Delta and American I'll have 16x for Sky Club between Reserve and Plat should be enough. We still use a fair amount to the coupon book, 5x air, and FHR that Plat has, so also a keeper for us.

Times are a changing with the higher cost of doing business for everyone.

Delta is defining a "SkyClub visit" as 1 visit every 3 hours at 1 airport

That's fine by me. I usally go direct and my home airport is an escape lounge (Amex) or BOS and mostly catch lounge a on my way home or connection if I have one. All my out going departures are early morning, other than international, so there is little time for a lounge stop.

I've learned to go early out and coming home I'm less concerned for delays that may happen as the day goes on.

Re: Delta makes drastic updates to Sky Club.

swankytiger — Thu, 14 Sep 2023 19:39:50 GMT

also in the terms and conditions for the reserve card

"Eligible Card Members cannot purchase additional Delta Sky Club Visits once all 10 Visits have been used."

Re: Delta makes drastic updates to Sky Club.

Saleen099 — Thu, 14 Sep 2023 21:18:13 GMT

CHANGES FOR DELTA SKYMILES RESERVE CARD MEMBERS

Delta SkyMiles Reserve and Reserve Business American Express Card Members will be eligible for 10 Delta Sky Club Visits per Medallion Year, starting February 1, 2025. Card Members can earn Unlimited Delta Sky Club Access after spending $75,000 on their eligible Card in a calendar year and will have Unlimited Delta Sky Club Access for the remainder of the current Medallion Year and for the following Medallion Year. Spend tracking begins January 1, 2024, for the 2025 Medallion Year.

CHANGES FOR THE PLATINUM CARD® FROM AMERICAN EXPRESS

The Platinum Card and Business Platinum Card from American Express Card Members will be eligible for 6 Delta Sky Club Visits per Medallion Year, starting February 1, 2025. Card Members can earn Unlimited Delta Sky Club Access after spending $75,000 on their eligible Card in a calendar year and will have Unlimited Delta Sky Club Access for the remainder of the current Medallion Year and for the following Medallion Year. Spend tracking begins January 1, 2024, for the 2025 Medallion Year.

Re: Delta makes drastic updates to Sky Club.

Priory_Man — Thu, 14 Sep 2023 23:44:43 GMT

Gone are the days of how many miles you fly with an airline, now it's down to how much money you spend on them. I thought this was an interesting read.
https://thepointsguy.com/news/why-i-wont-chase-airline-status

Re: Delta makes drastic updates to Sky Club.

NAVYCHOP — Fri, 15 Sep 2023 00:44:21 GMT

Yes, as far as I understand, $75k in spend on the Delta Reserve or AMEX Platinum card will open up unlimited visits to the Sky Club. I'm thinking the spend may be better on the Platinum AMEX card as that opens two free guests to the Centurion lounges with each visit and unlimited Sky Club visits for the main and all additional Platinum card holders on the account.

My parents thought I was a crazy spendthrift as a college student working a summer job in the late 80's when I purchased a lifetime Northwest World Club membership but that converted into the no longer offered Delta Sky Club lifetime membership, which provides Executive membership level privileges of two free guests with each visit and continues to allow access to the Sky Clubs at the airport regardless of airline flown-- ie I have used the Sky Club while flying on Southwest, United and American tickets.

Re: Delta makes drastic updates to Sky Club.

DSTforlife — Mon, 18 Sep 2023 18:00:57 GMT

exactly! the only reason i'm keeping my delta platinum is because of of the companion ticket. Even with that, i'm less thrilled about the card. I can use my amex gold MR points for skymiles. With both cards having a $250 AF, the companion ticket now only makes sense if the cost is over $500.

Re: Delta makes drastic updates to Sky Club.

YoungMoney06 — Thu, 28 Sep 2023 14:48:02 GMT

For anyone who hasn't seen yet, let's see where this goes- https://www.cnbc.com/2023/09/28/delta-ceo-says-carrier-went-too-far-in-skymiles-changes-promises-modifications-after-frequent-flyer-backlash.html