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    <title>topic Re: HSBC AF Removed? in Credit Cards</title>
    <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/HSBC-AF-Removed/m-p/593559#M190154</link>
    <description>&lt;P&gt;I first called them to see if they can wave the AF and they refused so I canceled the card at that point. I couple of days i logged in online and I saw that the AF was not removed so I called them again to see why they hadn't remove the AF since I had already cancel the card and they told me that they will remove it when I paid the card in full and I only have until the November 16.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 12:27:08 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>eddymvp</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2009-10-30T12:27:08Z</dc:date>
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      <title>HSBC AF Removed?</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/HSBC-AF-Removed/m-p/593377#M190089</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Has anyone have any luck having their AF removed from HSBC. I just went thru a nightmare with them and even though I cancel the card they won't remove it until I paid in full.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I'm going to transfer the balance to another card and cancel it and will never do business with them. I have had the card for two years and always paid in time and kept about a 10% balance with them. They never gave me a line increase in those two years either.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 22:47:13 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/HSBC-AF-Removed/m-p/593377#M190089</guid>
      <dc:creator>eddymvp</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2009-10-29T22:47:13Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: HSBC AF Removed?</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/HSBC-AF-Removed/m-p/593456#M190117</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;SPAN class="j3"&gt;eddymvp&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class="j2"&gt;wrote&lt;/SPAN&gt;:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN class="j2"&gt;Has&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class="j2"&gt;anyone&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class="j2"&gt;have&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class="j2"&gt;any&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class="j2"&gt;luck&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class="j2"&gt;having&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class="j2"&gt;their&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class="j5"&gt;AF&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class="j2"&gt;removed&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class="j2"&gt;from&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class="j5"&gt;HSBC&lt;/SPAN&gt;. &lt;SPAN class="j2"&gt;I&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class="j2"&gt;just&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class="j2"&gt;went&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class="j2"&gt;thru&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class="j2"&gt;a&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class="j2"&gt;nightmare&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class="j2"&gt;with&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class="j2"&gt;them&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class="j2"&gt;and&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class="j2"&gt;even&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class="j2"&gt;though&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class="j2"&gt;I&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class="j2"&gt;cancel&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class="j2"&gt;the&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class="j2"&gt;card&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class="j2"&gt;they&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class="j2"&gt;won't&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class="j2"&gt;remove&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class="j2"&gt;it&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class="j2"&gt;until&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class="j2"&gt;I&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class="j2"&gt;paid&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class="j2"&gt;in&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class="j2"&gt;full&lt;/SPAN&gt;.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN class="j2"&gt;I'm&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class="j2"&gt;going&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class="j2"&gt;to&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class="j2"&gt;transfer&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class="j2"&gt;the&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class="j2"&gt;balance&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class="j2"&gt;to&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class="j2"&gt;another&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class="j2"&gt;card&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class="j2"&gt;and&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class="j2"&gt;cancel&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class="j2"&gt;it&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class="j2"&gt;and&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class="j2"&gt;will&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class="j2"&gt;never&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class="j2"&gt;do&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class="j2"&gt;business&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class="j2"&gt;with&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class="j2"&gt;them&lt;/SPAN&gt;. &lt;SPAN class="j2"&gt;I&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class="j2"&gt;have&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class="j2"&gt;had&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class="j2"&gt;the&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class="j2"&gt;card&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class="j2"&gt;for&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class="j2"&gt;two&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class="j2"&gt;years&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class="j2"&gt;and&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class="j2"&gt;always&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class="j2"&gt;paid&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class="j2"&gt;in&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class="j2"&gt;time&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class="j2"&gt;and&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class="j2"&gt;kept&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class="j2"&gt;about&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class="j2"&gt;a&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class="j4"&gt;10&lt;/SPAN&gt;% &lt;SPAN class="j2"&gt;balance&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class="j2"&gt;with&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class="j2"&gt;them&lt;/SPAN&gt;. &lt;SPAN class="j2"&gt;They&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class="j2"&gt;never&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class="j2"&gt;gave&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class="j2"&gt;me&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class="j2"&gt;a&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class="j2"&gt;line&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class="j2"&gt;increase&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class="j2"&gt;in&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class="j2"&gt;those&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class="j2"&gt;two&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class="j2"&gt;years&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class="j2"&gt;either&lt;/SPAN&gt;.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN class="j2"&gt;Are&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class="j2"&gt;you&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class="j2"&gt;talking&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class="j2"&gt;about&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class="j2"&gt;having&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class="j2"&gt;an&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class="j5"&gt;AF&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class="j2"&gt;removed&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class="j2"&gt;after&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class="j2"&gt;you&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class="j2"&gt;closed&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class="j2"&gt;the&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class="j2"&gt;card&lt;/SPAN&gt;? &lt;SPAN class="j2"&gt;That&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class="j2"&gt;is&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class="j2"&gt;a&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class="j2"&gt;totally&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class="j2"&gt;different&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class="j2"&gt;matter&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class="j2"&gt;than&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class="j2"&gt;having&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class="j2"&gt;the&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class="j5"&gt;AF&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class="j2"&gt;removed&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class="j2"&gt;from&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class="j2"&gt;an&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class="j2"&gt;open&lt;/SPAN&gt;, &lt;SPAN class="j2"&gt;active&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class="j2"&gt;account&lt;/SPAN&gt;, &lt;SPAN class="j2"&gt;which&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class="j2"&gt;I&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class="j2"&gt;have&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class="j2"&gt;done&lt;/SPAN&gt;. &lt;SPAN class="j2"&gt;You&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class="j2"&gt;need&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class="j2"&gt;to&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class="j2"&gt;be&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class="j2"&gt;clearer&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class="j2"&gt;about&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class="j2"&gt;what&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class="j2"&gt;you're&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class="j2"&gt;stating&lt;/SPAN&gt;/&lt;SPAN class="j2"&gt;asking&lt;/SPAN&gt;.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 02:28:10 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/HSBC-AF-Removed/m-p/593456#M190117</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2009-10-30T02:28:10Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: HSBC AF Removed?</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/HSBC-AF-Removed/m-p/593559#M190154</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I first called them to see if they can wave the AF and they refused so I canceled the card at that point. I couple of days i logged in online and I saw that the AF was not removed so I called them again to see why they hadn't remove the AF since I had already cancel the card and they told me that they will remove it when I paid the card in full and I only have until the November 16.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 12:27:08 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/HSBC-AF-Removed/m-p/593559#M190154</guid>
      <dc:creator>eddymvp</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2009-10-30T12:27:08Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: HSBC AF Removed?</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/HSBC-AF-Removed/m-p/593573#M190159</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/125283"&gt;@eddymvp&lt;/a&gt; wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;I first called them to see if they can wave the AF and they refused so I canceled the card at that point. I couple of days i logged in online and I saw that the AF was not removed so I called them again to see why they hadn't remove the AF since I had already cancel the card and they told me that they will remove it when I paid the card in full and I only have until the November 16.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;You have to be very careful when you close a card with a balance. All kinds of things can happen. I would try calling during US business hours and ask for a supervisor. You may be stuck.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Of course you could always file a complaint with the Office of the Comptroller of the Currency if that doesn't work out:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;A href="http://www.helpwithmybank.gov/" target="_blank"&gt;http://www.helpwithmybank.gov/&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 13:31:48 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/HSBC-AF-Removed/m-p/593573#M190159</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2009-10-30T13:31:48Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: HSBC AF Removed?</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/HSBC-AF-Removed/m-p/593626#M190177</link>
      <description>I have a Best Buy card with them and they always remove the AF, I have to call and ask, and once or twice I've had to threaten to close the account, but they've always removed it.</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 16:44:05 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/HSBC-AF-Removed/m-p/593626#M190177</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2009-10-30T16:44:05Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: HSBC AF Removed?</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/HSBC-AF-Removed/m-p/593786#M190220</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Problem is OP has lost whatever meager leverage he had - he closed the card.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I was able to have the AF on my Direct Merchants Bank (HSBC) MC permanently waived. That was not easy to do. Best approach: When the frontline CSR&amp;nbsp;says "No" to a waiver request ask to speak to a retention specialist. Then state your case to the retention specialist and never even obliquely mention closing your account. If you've been around for a while and have kept your nose clean they might&amp;nbsp;just do it for you!&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 00:53:11 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/HSBC-AF-Removed/m-p/593786#M190220</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2009-10-31T00:53:11Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: HSBC AF Removed?</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/HSBC-AF-Removed/m-p/594368#M190430</link>
      <description>I wonder how much on an impact this will make on my credit report. Would it make my score go down?</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 14:18:00 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/HSBC-AF-Removed/m-p/594368#M190430</guid>
      <dc:creator>eddymvp</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2009-11-02T14:18:00Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: HSBC AF Removed?</title>
      <link>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/HSBC-AF-Removed/m-p/596116#M190998</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/125283"&gt;@eddymvp&lt;/a&gt; wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;I wonder how much on an impact this will make on my credit report. &lt;FONT color="#ff0000"&gt;Would it make my score go down?&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;It could if you carry balances.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 06:19:36 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/HSBC-AF-Removed/m-p/596116#M190998</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2009-11-06T06:19:36Z</dc:date>
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